Topic: AI and Brain Science on Equilibrium in Gambling Addicition and Sports Betting is - page 2. (Read 1245 times)

If we only rely on AI when deciding to gamble then it is very unlikely that we will enjoy every bet we play and as you said to be able to enjoy the bets we play we must have the ability to determine the bets we will place and also must be able to accept every loss that we will experience even though this is certainly not desired by everyone.

In addition to being less interesting to gamble using AI, I think it will be very disappointing when we experience defeat in betting by relying on AI because the error is not from ourselves, then this will be disappointing when we have trusted it and cannot win the bet, and if the casino uses AI for their work, of course this is their own responsibility and to be able to stop the habit of gambling, I think it is more about each individual in managing their gambling activities.

Yes, that is a reality that we may face in the future so when we want to use AI, we must know how to use it with right and benefit from AI. We can not let AI decide what we want because what AI suggested is not the same as we want because maybe we have our own consideration so we keep telling AI to do as we want. Maybe AI can suggest something to us but we should keep decide based on the AI suggestion to find a way to win. Yes, casino will update their rules against the use of AI so they can still benefit when the AI used by the gamblers. The casino itself will also use AI to help the casino secure the abuser that want to trick the casino so there is no way for gamblers  to cheat the casino.

Learning how to use AI will be necessary especially for people who want to try to use AI to playing gambling. But maybe we need to wait for more until the face of AI can be like what we want so we can use AI without have a problem. If the casino allow gamblers using AI, that will be our benefit but we must be careful because casino will always watch their members for playing gambling. The casino will not tolerate their members who want to cheat them and will prevents that thing happen in their casino. We as a gambler should not trying to cheat the casino because the casino will know for sure and they can check everything in their casino.

Who is going to get fun out of gambling now? AI or you as a human?

If we leave everything for AI to handle then we will miss the part where we are supposed to derive fun from the games.

I don't think AI is the answer for many gamblers, it will only make gambling less attractive for gamblers.

AI should be useful for casino business owners though and that is if they feel like AI can handle the job better, in places like paperwork and proper online check up, it is not that important like some people are making it look like.

AI won't stop you from getting addicted to gambling, AI can't teach you responsible gambling, AI has no feelings.

that's right, and besides that I think addiction also depends on their purpose in gambling too, because if their purpose in gambling is to make money then addiction or addiction is something that is likely to happen to them and make them trapped there with problems that occur that harm them. In addition, with things that Ai cannot solve, I think one of them is that Ai may not feel what is felt by those who experience defeat with the aim of making money, because I think emotions are human nature while Ai is not like humans who have feelings that are difficult to predict.
However, Ai will not be able to compare humans, because Ai is also a human creation, in the explanation that I found Ai is an artificial human intelligence as in the picture below.

source: ibm

I agree AI cannot read minds, they cannot input anything unless some triggers are fed into their systems.  Just like how anyone create image through AI, compose a song through AI and create articles and blogs through aI.  They need to input things they wanted to read.  AI can't do anything without feeding them the "triggers" to search for the answer.

If we happen to see how to verify things using AI, especially in chatgpt, it shows "searching the internet" before prompting us its answer.

In short, AI still needs input and they can't debate with people but rather put information depending on what people ask and what is available on the internet.  But eventually, AI will evolve in a more precise one but still needs input from human.

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To those who are tired of AI topic, you can always skip the thread why bother to answer?  Why are you in this this thread anyway?

Am as well tired of the bullshit already.

This is the 5th AI thread I have to get to see on the gambling board, always has the same conversation but a different topic. At last, the argument all falls to the same points people will contribute and conclude.

There is a limit to what AI can do so there is no point expecting that AI should start performing magic. People should wake up and understand that what it is programmed to do can't go beyond.

Key word: support.

I can think of a scenario where AI warns us when it thinks we might be already breaching risky territory. AI can alert and tell us whether or not does it think what we’re about to do is a good decision or not. But at the end of the day, humans are still superior to AI and we can still do whatever we want. So unless we listen to AI there’s really nothing else it can do to ensure proper gambling.
That seems impersonal. Therapy is too complicated for AI to conduct. It’s not just about speaking but also about body language. To know what makes a person tick. To see when can you push or back down lest the client doesn’t feel comfortable again. Having therapy with AI will not be effective, imo.

Yes I think it could be a good tool for many gambling addicts but not all of them. When the pressure starts to get very strong, you can't listen anyone or anything anymore, and you will just ignore the AI advices or you will just turn it off in the end. So for risk addicts I don't think it can help them. It can help beginners, or gambling addicts already cautious about risks, not gambling for thrills.

Yes you are right that AI does not have the ability to feel a feeling or other form of emotion that is done instinctively by humans, if you see from this the correlation will be very far with the form of how AI can recognize that someone is in addiction, honestly if you think back about this AI case as a tool to control your gambling game and recognize how someone is in emotional chaos, that is, with the consensus result of how someone is in emotional turmoil in gambling, because from what I feel and experience when I gamble and then there are emotions in it, I tend to take the same actions when making gambling decisions, and I think almost all gamblers who are provoked by their emotions will take the same actions, and that can be used as data for AI to recognize the emotions of gamblers, it's just that maybe your gambling activities are always monitored by AI.

Believe it or not with that innovation, I doubt myself personally, maybe just like people 100 years BC would not believe iron could fly (airplanes) or float on water (ships) and we also cannot believe in this transhuman.

I am generally skeptical about humanity's expectations of something super-unique and fantastic from the introduction of what is now very pompously and very loudly called "AI". In my opinion, this is not intelligence at all, but simply a voluminous information system with knowledge limited by the current knowledge of specialists in all areas of human activity. And the further filling of this information system still depends heavily on specific people with their ideological, worldview and humanistic or anti-human views. And AI will simply reproduce and copy this vision of global processes. So I do not yet see any symptoms of a global leap of humanity to a new quality of life precisely thanks to this very introduction of what is called AI.

Addiction depends on mentality and emotions like you said, there are certain things AI can't solve and this is one of them
It's not possible for an AI to be able to have therapeutic capacities like humans because they can't feel emotions and other human feelings because they are programmed , trying to make a AI process human feelings is a waste of time. Maybe that's why they are trying to make transhumans now.
A transhuman is merge of human DNA and an AI, can this be achieved or is it just fictional.

Well, from that point of view, yes, you are absolutely right, but partly it is because casinos have invested in developing and using AI more frequently and the most useful ones. If a customer uses them, or if a customer invests in an AI, could it make a difference? Maybe yes, maybe not, but in a few years, AI will be more accessible to people and they will be able to modify, improve and make their algorithms much stronger so that they can make a difference.

It is said that AI will become a main reference for things in human activities , and that is something that can make a difference. In gambling , I know that new challenges will arise and that is what casinos must prepare for the most.

On the contrary, AI is used by casinos to optimally calculate their marketing programs for providing individual bonuses, discounts and promotions. And thus retain casino customers. But on the part of players, it is unlikely that AI will be used effectively if the AI ​​you use does not have legal or even illegal access to the internal algorithms of games in a particular casino. And such data is naturally seriously protected and AI is unlikely to be able to obtain it, at least for now.

Because you say so?

Well this wasn't never about reading minds, but about understanding what happens in your brain when it comes to addiction. And people are using term AI pretty loosely these days. Current AI isn't AI as we see in sci-fi, it's not self aware, or even mimicking, it's just a parroting text and can compare and analyze data. That's it. Comparing it to humans tells just more about how little we understand the tech we are dealing with.

But even if it was real AI in the future, who says it couldn't have emotions? It could be made on organic material and capable to as deep or deeper emotions as humans. We tend to glorify our emotions and intelligence, even though we are driven by the biological code build in us. And that's actually a good reason to study AI, and us and build simulations that mimic our behavior and compare brain activity data, to understand why we act like we act as humans. Like in this case, where we want to understand gambling addiction better.

Can we please stop all this AI bullshit at all?

Im becoming very tired of reading, hearing , seeing from every thing in life about AI enchanced, you buy a plate and it have an AI who do nothing, you buy a table and have AI who said to you if something is ab ove the tabble, all useless, and pure amrketing to bring up the price.

This is in the same boat.

Use the AI like AI, and stop making all kind of silly things around it.

Yes and the point is that it is better for us to learn properly how to use the Al technology so that we do not end up running it without realizing that we have made a mistake and maybe this kind of experience has been experienced by novice gamblers who do not know about the ins and outs of using the Al technology without supervision from professional experts.
Therefore, it would be better to find out a lot about the use of Al and we must also be careful in reading the appropriate rules and must be done.

I honestly think that things with AI are a reality, many who find a way to use it is to benefit themselves , there is no doubt about that , and there are many who are going to try to win using an AI, that is a fact, you can't hide the sun with a finger , however things have to be more interesting, the casinos must have security Against that, and when they discover it they have to ban the player, it's that simple, and with that they already get rid of many problems, because it is obvious that an AI cannot operate in a casino.

You are right I don't think AIs can read minds . And one thing again when comes to emotions AIs are bad at it that's one thing humans have that AIs can never have , AIs lacks emotions so how's it going to understanding one emotions , I don't know if AIs can actually do all this that you have listed above.

There must be more strictly rules when someone using AI for his gambling activity because that can affect to the outcome that the casino can get. Gamblers must learn how to use AI before they can apply it when they playing gambling because without learning how to use AI, they can not get benefit from AI. We must read the rules from the casino related to use AI in playing gambling because the casino will change their rule following to the current situation.

When we can operate AI with right and we know what is newest rules from the casino, we can use AI with calm and we will not break the casino's rules. We should always learn better for using AI so we will not have any problem from that.

I don't think that it's way too far if AIs can read mind. I think that it's a way to read a person's mind through reactions and emotions and some gestures of a person. In that way, there's a way for them to determine of what's happening based on those factors. But technicality, they can't read a person's mind even the lie detector test, it doesn't really give someone's thought if they're lying or not but based on other factors like heartbeat, and other reactions that someone is doing. Anyway, the potential is there and probably sky is the limit but there are variations and some factors that might not be considered.