Topic: AI-generated post discussion thread: how to identify & report - page 6. (Read 2717 times)

It depends on a bot settings. You can ask ChatGPT to use different style or to correct a little by yourself. Bots of previous generations were very obvious and as for new bots... it is much harder to be sure if it is a bot at the other side. Yes, we still can see that there are bots on the forum but just because their owners are too lazy to make good settings or correct the text, IMO.

Bot postings, like AI, are always in plain English.  And bot never uses a shortcut English word that humans do. But for English many people use different tools like google translator to identify bot or AI posts, it becomes very difficult. the means shown by the Op might help us find AI posts but it doesn't seem to work Guaranteed. Because in this case the person who posts will be reported against.  If he explains anything, we'll have a hard time proof it a full AI post

If they answer anyhow you'll hardly guess if it was AI or just a person which have some problems with formulating of their ideas. Those who ignore any questions look like bots or at least impolite ones so we can suppose that there is a bot posting. But when there is any answer it makes everything harder. We have some examples in the topic where I can hardly guess if a post was made right by person or with a ChatGPT help (to be honest, I don't). So I guess it depends mostly on how good are the settings.

thanks for these very interesting tools
I think it's easy to notice if one writes with the help of ai or not
if you ask specific questions in my opinion they fail to answer well
a ai cannot respond well to specific sentences

Thats a bit hard or if ever it is. Its gonna be a chaos I think. Since even AI can now detect a content written by an AI. Honestly an advance tech could be good but so advance can also not beneficial either. See OP needed to have a standard method for these users using AI which technically cheating the idea of a healthy forum discussion, since instead of creating their own thought and putting here some relying already on AI to finish the job.

I don't think people here are necessarily anti-AI, but as you just said, this is literally a copy-paste problem.

It's like having the internet and the "information superhighway", but your first exposure to all of this is just spam content on the web. Because that's exactly what we are seeing on this forum. Nobody's implementing an "AI-assisted FAQ thread" where you can just ask it a question about Bitcoin and it answers it (thereby eliminating 30% of all posts on this forum), but rather, they are just using it for sophisticated "SEO spamming" or in this case signature spamming.

For now, the few ways that have been discovered can be helpful in phishing out some AI-generated posts, but some AI posts may not be noticed because humans, being so logical, can get assisted by the AI to generate them a reply to post on the forum, but after the AI has done its work, they can further modify the post to look more like it was created by a real human.

As Loyce and Suchmoo have mentioned, the AI will just continue to get better, which is my fear too (particular what Loyce said, if it happens like that, then signature and the forum will just be bump with AI contents). If all this AI stuff really gets worse, then having these discussions will be pointless. because it can become so difficult to even detect an AI-generated post.


What if these AIs get modified in a way that they deny what they have already said? for example, someone posted a reply that was created by AI, and you really want to find out if it was AI-generated, so you decide to run an AI word search, and the AI tells you a different thing and denies it really said the first statement? This can be possible if these AIs keep getting better.

AI scares the bejesus out of me, not only from this forums perspective but throughout the world. The level of sophistication which has already been achieved, should be alarming to everyone. Pondering about how AI could be shifted in biased ways, and be used for malicious purposes, is scary.

Biased adjustments added into an AI's neural network to fit various agendas, manipulate public opinions, controlling herd mentality, and more, could all send the entire world into another level of chaos which we will not understand, until it is too late. Depending on who, or let's be real, which tech giant, corporation, government or special interest group masters it first, likely the latter two.

For this forum, the solution is simple.
AAIM's --- Advanced Artificial Intelligence Moderators.  

Eliminating the need for human moderators all together. Plagiarism will be stifled. But we [disappointingly] will end up with multiple reiterations of the same [hopefully good] content, thru various [sponsored] AI bots, we assume run by humans - but maybe run by other AI's generating and using alts. All information [hopefully accurate] regurgitated in various ways as [maybe real] humans interact with the AI's --- If the content all satisfies the tolerance level of the AAIM's, of course.

Yikes.

There are definitely some downsides to AI-generated content that we should be aware of, but I don't think we need to freak out just yet. The internet has already gone through a bunch of changes and I think it'll keep changing in the future. Plus, AI could do some pretty cool stuff for us too, like revolutionize industries and make our lives easier. We just gotta be careful and balance out the good and the bad.

I have to agree on you with that. As of now since AI is still at an early stage, so many are offering this feature for free so that users will have their time to try everything and choose what's best for them, but I think that those projects that are stocked without development before will coming out later this year or early next year. If they couldn't find solution before, maybe now with the aid of AI it will develop faster, and who knows what kind of project they are stocking. Aside from that, there will be tools that can be used freely in public just like how there are options we have now if we want to subscribe or not.

I happen to think the opposite. AI technology is starting to appear in droves. It seems that many of the projects that were just being worked on in the garage are now available to the public. With the mass increase of these platforms, the tendency is for the price to go down. Of course, the best ones will be expensive to use.

I think we're still very much in the phase of being new and then being very popular. Even so, taking into account what the available platforms, in "beta" mode, already do, I believe that this is now always increasing. But we'll have a better idea a year from now.

I am sure there are bigger and more dangerous things someone could do with AI instead of creating accounts and making money from bitcointalk forum.
Creators of AI already started charging for using their services and my predictions is that soon most of the people wont be able to use them anymore, unless they pay good money.
But I agree with you that internet as we know it is living it's last days, maybe reason for introducing internet-kyc for everyone would be exactly this - dangers caused by AI 
This is just my speculation but it's not impossible scenario at all.

I totally agree with you on this very statement of yours @ Poker Player, because for me it's never a crime using A.I as an assistant or reference source for creating digital content, only if the user uses it responsibly, but it can only be a crime when such an individual fails to add value and uses the entire generated text completely in its robotic manner. However, A.I is no different from Google where people always go search/source for content when writing projects or creating articles for a blog post, because only if people use it in such a way that adds value or solves a particular life problem. I personally see nothing wrong with using A.I

I'm sure having "too good grammar" will never be the only reason for blaming anyone in AI posting. It's nonsense to say someone: hey, you are too good so get a punishment. Few sense, non natural text, not answering to others questions, — there could be much more clues to find who uses AI.

This is pretty tricky, I mean there's probably someone there that doesn't really use AI but gets accused, I think that we need to create a reference to help identify patterns that is consistent with AI usage. Another problem is that what if they use Grammarly or something that corrects their sentences and their punctuations, what happens to them? They might get caught in the crossfire.

Okay, can you show anyone who uses AI for posting regularly (not only several times for fun or for research) and is doing it good? All times I saw someone uses it regularly it was a low quality posting with few sense. So if you think that majority will use it in the most right way I guess it is not that I'm too pessimistic, it's about you are too optimistic.

Writing scripts nowadays is very easy with the help of AI, and for that reason even if an AI is used as a tool for writing some well written narratives, there is also an AI that can help you detect narratives constructed by another AI. I have seen several other AI tools that can help detect AI written paragraphs, and most of them are being advertised in tiktok or another social media platform like youtube shorts. I don't know if those AI detectors are really accurate or could really be of help since, I actually didn't and haven't tried them yet and there are too many to mention, some are not even listed on the OPs list (I wish I could list some of them, but I forgot their names), and one of the more reason I am not interested in using those AI detector is that, if AI is the one writing it and detecting, it is no different than the "the ones giving the cure is the one making the disease".

It already happen since few years ago where people create a bot in order to aim 5000+ followers and many bounty hunters were spamming with their proof of authentication without read the thread, as long as the thread posted in bounties section, it's mean a bounty program even though the subject title and content is talking about token announcement.

I don't think there's will be a fair standard because it depends on each user's opinion aka subjective. It will lead a drama as there's no solid evidence, some users will say no and some people say yes.

As if the internet has been with us humans for thousands of years.

The internet practically killed the sending of letters, phone calls from landline to landline, maps, paper newspapers, etc., etc., etc. Related to this, and also to what I commented in the previous post, it has also practically killed the camera, flashlight and diary businesses just to point out a few examples.

When an innovation like this bursts in you have two options: complain and try to stop it (in vain) or try to adapt. I don't know how you see it but the way I see it, if what you say materializes:


the difference between a shitposter creating accounts with the AI and you is that you will be able to have them in the top 100 merit earned, while he will not get any. Another thing is that you don't take advantage of the opportunity and you'd rather lament while others take advantage of it.


Yes you are.

I don't want to say, not to investigate and analyze the different cases that arise.

What I am saying is that it will be difficult to create a standard for something that is highly uncertain. Something that has so many probabilities, the creation of a pattern, can affect innocents as well as culprits, and over time it usually tends to affect more innocents.