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June 25, 2023, 12:20:02 AM
#30
I'm not the one who decides if it will be considered so or the other way. I don't even know if to report anything and if so then what. But when moderators will see your confession they'll do what they'll consider right in this situation.

Yes, i am ready for their step. i hope i will he given chance concerning this case and i assure i will try my best to be careful Next time. I am trying here for 6 month and now at this stage my reputation damaged just for doing one mistake. i also don't know how to thanks friend who  brings me here
I don't think you could have missed this before joining Yo!Mix, Royse777 purposely bolded the text so that every applicant can read it properly.
To prevent AI domination effective from today we are introducing an incentive for forum users. Find AI written posts on this campaign
and report to me either in public or in forum PM, please be sure you have enough reference to support the claim. For successful report
the reporter will receive the weekly payment instead of the accused campaigner. The campaigner will be removed immediately.

I don't know what reason you made this mistake, the point is you have been arrested for the mistake you made. Deliberately or unintentionally you make this mistake only you know the motive behind all of this. Acknowledgment you entrust Jockeys written post made a mistake that you are not aware of, Jockeys will pretend not to use anything that violates the forum rules to get a few dollars from you.
Now you are in the unfortunate situation of putting your trust in the Jockeys in pursuit of a $30 bonus.
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June 24, 2023, 10:45:45 PM
#29
No sir, he wrote some post for me which was not used anywhere in any place just like some one write writing article for you. I don't think it will be refer to pilgirarism
Your account is also used as a poster of the results of spinning tools and AI that the main suspect did. If this uses the analogy of solving a criminal case, your account will also be confiscated by the authorities as evidence regardless it doesn't belong to the suspect. This means that your account should also receive the same consequences, just hope it won't happen.
sr. member
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June 24, 2023, 03:50:31 PM
#28
Does this AI detect tool not count as well - https://writer.com/ai-content-detector/ ?
To the best of my knowledge it is free.

How times have changes several year ago, the forum was tackling plagiarism and now we are tackling AI contents. I wonder what other thing we tackle in the future just to keep the forum clean.
legendary
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June 24, 2023, 02:16:48 PM
#27

All these posts appear to be a text-spin of the post they are quoting as well, which means this is almost certainly an alt account of nlovric.
No sir, i am not alt of Nlovric. i shocked when i saw this post. now i am telling whole story what actually happened. I did some mistake which got me this far.

...

Here is all my conversation
https://archive.org/details/Petulinomistake#ia-carousel

I know that i am all to blame but i am not alt of Nlovric, without gambling every one can check my other 180 posts i written by myself.

Well the thing is there's a few other accounts that post in this same style (I'll get to them shortly) and the simplest explanation is you're all the same person. Regardless, it doesn't matter if someone posted on your behalf or not -- you assume all responsibility for what is posted under your account.

Double regardless, this is all very stupid because you're supposed to be here because you enjoy posting on the forum and contributing to ongoing discussion using your own brain & words. This is a discussion forum, not a job that you can outsource. You should absolutely be banned for plagiarism although I am only reporting posts as "AI spam" here and its up to the mods whether or not use of AI counts as plagiarism.
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June 24, 2023, 01:16:32 PM
#26
I'm not the one who decides if it will be considered so or the other way. I don't even know if to report anything and if so then what. But when moderators will see your confession they'll do what they'll consider right in this situation.

Yes, i am ready for their step. i hope i will he given chance concerning this case and i assure i will try my best to be careful Next time. I am trying here for 6 month and now at this stage my reputation damaged just for doing one mistake. i also don't know how to thanks friend who  brings me here
legendary
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June 24, 2023, 01:10:11 PM
#25


I guess this confession can do even worse in your situation. You say that you used someone else's posts passing them off as your own. This is what plagiarism is, and plagiarism is strictly forbidden by rules.

No sir, he wrote some post for me which was not used anywhere in any place just like some one write writing article for you. I don't think it will be refer to pilgirarism

I'm not the one who decides if it will be considered so or the other way. I don't even know if to report anything and if so then what. But when moderators will see your confession they'll do what they'll consider right in this situation.
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
June 24, 2023, 01:05:04 PM
#24

All these posts appear to be a text-spin of the post they are quoting as well, which means this is almost certainly an alt account of nlovric.
No sir, i am not alt of Nlovric. i shocked when i saw this post. now i am telling whole story what actually happened. I did some mistake which got me this far...~snip~

I was surprised to hear his confession. It would be a breakthrough if you could hire other people to post on this forum. I think just doing plagiarism is very wrong here (quoting some other people's ideas). In this case you're not just partaking of that person's ideas, but all of other people's ideas. Sounds good.. I don't think anyone has made a great breakthrough except you
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June 24, 2023, 01:02:11 PM
#23


I guess this confession can do even worse in your situation. You say that you used someone else's posts passing them off as your own. This is what plagiarism is, and plagiarism is strictly forbidden by rules.

No sir, he wrote some post for me which was not used anywhere in any place just like some one write writing article for you. I don't think it will be refer to pilgirarism
legendary
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June 24, 2023, 12:48:29 PM
#22

All these posts appear to be a text-spin of the post they are quoting as well, which means this is almost certainly an alt account of nlovric.
No sir, i am not alt of Nlovric. i shocked when i saw this post. now i am telling whole story what actually happened. I did some mistake which got me this far.

Nlovric is my indirect friend (my friend has good relationship with him). actually when i accepted in Yomix signature compaign, my friend told mw that I can get bonus of 30$ if i post more than 60. I offer him if he could write post for me then I will give 10$ for helping because i cannot write 60 post in week and secondly i have no knowledge of gambling discussion except cricket. he agreed and was sending daily 3-4 post with profile link. I once asked him that not use any AI tool and he give me proof that its 100% human written posts. when this issue happened and i saw this post i completely shocked because i was not aware that my friend can do this despite of many time requesting not use any AI tool. when i asked he told me that actually got help from nlovric and 60% post was written by nlovric for him and he was also unaware of it. now i just told all truth and below i am sharing all our conversation through Whatsapp. Xal0lex (Staff member and moderator of local ) can read all and can confirm our conversation. We have also some voice discussion, if needed i will also add.

Here is all my conversation
https://archive.org/details/Petulinomistake#ia-carousel

I know that i am all to blame but i am not alt of Nlovric, without gambling every one can check my other 180 posts i written by myself.

I guess this confession can do even worse in your situation. You say that you used someone else's posts passing them off as your own. This is what plagiarism is, and plagiarism is strictly forbidden by rules.
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June 24, 2023, 11:54:58 AM
#21

All these posts appear to be a text-spin of the post they are quoting as well, which means this is almost certainly an alt account of nlovric.
No sir, i am not alt of Nlovric. i shocked when i saw this post. now i am telling whole story what actually happened. I did some mistake which got me this far.

Nlovric is my indirect friend (my friend has good relationship with him). actually when i accepted in Yomix signature compaign, my friend told mw that I can get bonus of 30$ if i post more than 60. I offer him if he could write post for me then I will give 10$ for helping because i cannot write 60 post in week and secondly i have no knowledge of gambling discussion except cricket. he agreed and was sending daily 3-4 post with profile link. I once asked him that not use any AI tool and he give me proof that its 100% human written posts. when this issue happened and i saw this post i completely shocked because i was not aware that my friend can do this despite of many time requesting not use any AI tool. when i asked he told me that actually got help from nlovric and 60% post was written by nlovric for him and he was also unaware of it. now i just told all truth and below i am sharing all our conversation through Whatsapp. Xal0lex (Staff member and moderator of local ) can read all and can confirm our conversation. We have also some voice discussion, if needed i will also add.

Here is all my conversation
https://archive.org/details/Petulinomistake#ia-carousel

I know that i am all to blame but i am not alt of Nlovric, without gambling every one can check my other 180 posts i written by myself.

legendary
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June 24, 2023, 08:27:34 AM
#20
I have updated the OP with 2 additional AI detector utilities that return results as %s.



I strongly believe he was an alt of @nlovric that tried to exploit the story to get some free merits.

Yeah I dunno, could be, people are weird as hell when it comes to merits sometimes. He could even have been trying to earn back his own pay  Cheesy but he did give me credit so who knows.

So I expect that there will be an army of alt accounts, given the merit record that he sent there are these accounts.

 - Jateng
 - Cheema02
 - petulino

OK well let's start with the last one on this list.


Username: petulino

Post #1 (quoting an nlovric post):

The decision to expand the FIFA World Cup field of competitors and choose three hosts gives the competition a new and captivating dimension. Although America serves as the primary host Canada and Mexico cooperative efforts enhance the special occasion. The format of the competition with 48 teams qualifying for each round is still being worked out. When choosing host nations it's crucial to take other aspects into account such as infrastructure and growth potential. The World Cup offers a chance to promote the game and increase its worldwide influence in nations that aren't typically connected with football. Yes its a step in the right direction towards promoting development and passion in the beautiful game is FIFA goal to broaden football appeal and engage new audiences.

This post does the same trick used by nlovric, removing punctuation. Even as is this post comes back 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text according to hivemoderation but 98.3% human for copyleaks. Let's put in the punctuation and remove the last sentence:

SCO has emerged victorious in a nail-biting Cricket World Cup qualifier match winning by a mere 1 wicket in an exhilarating contest. It was an outstanding performance by Scotland as they overcame the challenging target of 287 runs set by Ireland. The match took an exciting turn with Michael Leask phenomenal unbeaten innings of 91 runs off just 61 balls earning him the well deserved player of the match title. His exceptional batting display  along with Watt's crucial contribution turned the tide in Scotland's favor. It was a thrilling match of cricket that showcased the resilience and skill of both teams making it a memorable match for fans to love.

hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
copyleaks: 60.1% probability for AI

Let's see what happens when we add the punctuation:

In a remarkable display of skill and determination Oman achieved a stunning victory by 5 wickets successfully chasing down the target of 285 runs in 48 overs with 5 wickets to spare. It was an unexpected outcome considering Ireland reputation as a strong team. The collective effort of Oman batsmen with each contributing around 50+ runs showcased their composed approach to the innings. Zeeshan Maqsood the standout player of the match played a crucial role with his impressive fifty scoring 67 runs and also picking up a vital wicket Oman's performance was truly amazing defying expectations and making their mark in the World Cup qualifier matches.

hivemoderation: 99.8% likely to contain AI Generated Text
copyleaks: 99.9% human

After adding in the appropriate punctuation:

Quote
In a remarkable display of skill and determination, Oman achieved a stunning victory by 5 wickets, successfully chasing down the target of 285 runs in 48 overs with 5 wickets to spare. It was an unexpected outcome considering Ireland's reputation as a strong team. The collective effort of Oman's batsmen, with each contributing around 50+ runs, showcased their composed approach to the innings. Zeeshan Maqsood, the standout player of the match, played a crucial role with his impressive fifty, scoring 67 runs and also picking up a vital wicket. Oman's performance was truly amazing, defying expectations and making their mark in the World Cup qualifier matches.

hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
copyleaks: 82.3% probability for AI


All these posts appear to be a text-spin of the post they are quoting as well, which means this is almost certainly an alt account of nlovric.
legendary
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June 24, 2023, 04:18:54 AM
#19
It seems that not entirely, because there has been another forum member who wanted to take merit for the success. I have linked to this thread before without thinking that nutildah could have discovered the cheater before. I don't know what his motives may have been but I'll keep an eye on him.

I strongly believe he was an alt of @nlovric that tried to exploit the story to get some free merits. he locked and archived that topic after I posted this:

Quote
Maybe we can find out more, I've written some criteria for determining which account farms this account applies to:

Quote from: hugeblack
These topics have become attractive for account farming who have a lot of alt accounts as they can quickly rank up by participating in:

 - spamming Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
 - weekly post in Share your best posts/thread OR HELP ME TO RANKUP TOPICS.
 - The challenges are like the last pizza challenge, and I suppose most of the participants aimed for merits, and then participated using some alt accounts.
 - Making some fake stories like I helped my local community with bitcoin or false claim with the help of beginners.

@nlovric active post at Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion and Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1

So I expect that there will be an army of alt accounts, given the merit record that he sent there are these accounts.

 - Jateng
 - Cheema02
 - petulino

If someone is good at identifying alt accounts, this is a potential list.

The strange thing now is that these accounts are found in the list of accounts to which he sent merits.

Quote
Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 03:43:10 AM: 1 to Cheema02 for Re: Pakistan
June 13, 2023, 12:57:40 AM: 1 to Compromise me for How can we improve our country's economy by on culture or ecosystem?
June 13, 2023, 12:56:55 AM: 1 to Cheema02 for Re: Pakistan
June 08, 2023, 05:33:42 AM: 1 to petulino for Re: Pakistan
June 04, 2023, 03:23:58 PM: 1 to Compromise me for Re: Pakistan
legendary
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June 24, 2023, 03:50:41 AM
#18
And nlovric (u=51020) case is over. Moderators agree that it is plagiarism.

It seems that not entirely, because there has been another forum member who wanted to take merit for the success. I have linked to this thread before without thinking that nutildah could have discovered the cheater before. I don't know what his motives may have been but I'll keep an eye on him.
legendary
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June 23, 2023, 09:45:38 AM
#17
I think this user is already temp banned. If reports for these posts are all marked as "Good" I will update the OP with the new criteria.

My reports on JayTrain's posts are all good. But it is an obvious case. I guess it's about that moderators should see that it is a violation, and if there will be a less obvious case they can probably be not content with just numbers from detectors.

The case mentioned by lovesmayfamilis would be harder. It looks like his posts were written with the use of AI, but it was rewritten a bit to pass the AI detection.



Shouldn't it be considered as plagiarism? His "answers" are just rewritten posts he answers to.

Yes, it should. Technically all ChatGPT posts are plagiarism because they are being copy/pasted from another source uncredited, but those ones are especially... Its the equivalent of using a fancy text-spinner, which is also considered plagiarism.

And nlovric (u=51020) case is over. Moderators agree that it is plagiarism.



I don't like those ones who hack or trade accounts, so it's great!
legendary
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June 23, 2023, 09:19:31 AM
#16
Shouldn't it be considered as plagiarism? His "answers" are just rewritten posts he answers to.

Yes, it should. Technically all ChatGPT posts are plagiarism because they are being copy/pasted from another source uncredited, but those ones are especially... Its the equivalent of using a fancy text-spinner, which is also considered plagiarism.



I'm starting to like this Copyleaks utility.

Found another one who quoted a nlovric post.

Post #1:

Furthermore, it's best to start modest and gradually expand your exposure as you develop expertise and confidence in Bitcoin trading. It's also critical to keep up with the newest cryptocurrency news and developments, since they may have a considerable influence on Bitcoin's price swings. Before investing in Bitcoin trading or any other type of speculative investment, it is suggested that you conduct extensive research, exercise risk management strategies, and consider getting guidance from experienced traders or financial experts.

hivemoderation: 96.1% likely to contain AI Generated Text
copyleaks: 75.6% probability for AI

Post #2:

It is important to note, however, that historical pricing trends do not guarantee future outcomes. While it is possible that Bitcoin may face another bear market in the future, it is hard to predict when or at what price level Bitcoin would reach during such a market decline. Individuals may be able to make better educated judgments about purchasing and keeping Bitcoin if they regard it as a long-term investment and focus on its foundations and potential rather than short-term price swings.

hivemoderation: 93.7% likely to contain AI Generated Text
copyleaks: 74.6% probability for AI

Post #3:

It is critical to remember that inflation is a complicated economic phenomena that is impacted by a variety of factors. Blaming politicians and central bankers for inflation may oversimplify the situation. Some Bitcoin supporters feel that the cryptocurrency's limited supply, decentralization, and potential as a store of value might provide an alternative to existing fiat currencies while potentially addressing inflation problems. However, Bitcoin is not a cure for all economic problems. It has its own set of difficulties and restrictions. The price volatility of Bitcoin has been a major source of concern, with massive price fluctuations occurring over very short periods of time.

hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
copyleaks: 75.2% probability for AI


I think this user is already temp banned. If reports for these posts are all marked as "Good" I will update the OP with the new criteria.
legendary
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June 23, 2023, 08:24:13 AM
#15
First of all, nlovric has a registration date of February 03, 2012, yet they wrote this:
...
Post #3: They are also using ChatGPT to re-write quoted posts, which is maddeningly stupid:
...

Shouldn't it be considered as plagiarism? His "answers" are just rewritten posts he answers to.


Snip.....
Ronaldo presence in the Arab league has significantly changed the way that people view and are interested in the league. More people are now watching games in the Arab league as a result of increased media coverage. No longer is Ronaldo team the only one vying for elite players other teams are also working to bolster their rosters. While there have been rumours that Neymar wants to return to Barcelona qit seems unlikely that he would be prepared to accept a pay cut that would make that happen. Given his injury history and contentious image in Europe it is possible that Neymar will investigate alternative choices including playing in Saudi Arabia.
Undoubtedly, Ronaldo presence in the Arab league has resulted in a number of beneficial developments. Due to his influence the league has attracted more media coverage and fans. Now that other organisations are encouraged to sign top players, healthy competition is promoted. Arab leagues have a chance to entice great players while Neymar's prospective return to Barcelona is questionable. The desire to bolster their lineup is indicated by the rumours that Ronaldo side is interested in Carvalho and Brozovic. A bright and profitable future for Arab teams depends on them continuing to develop a competitive league to draw in and develop talent as Messi departure to the United States offers up new opportunities.
Ronaldo participation in the Arab league leads to a number of advantageous developments. His influence has led to more media coverage and increased interest in the league among supporters. In turn this has prompted other groups to go for top players promoting healthy rivalry within the league. Given the uncertain chances of Neymar return to Barcelona Arab teams now have a rare opportunity to attract outstanding players. The rumours that Ronaldo team is interested in signing players like Carvalho and Brozovic add to the evidence that they want to improve their starting lineup. Arab teams set the way for a promising and lucrative future by continuing to build a competitive league that can draw and nurture talent especially when prospects open with Messi move to the United States.

Hamilton has not yet won a single race, but he still speaks of a good season. This is mainly because the performance is now measured against that of last year, and last year was the year in which Mercedes had to close the difference again with RedBull, which did not work at all. But the question we can already ask: What will F1 look like next season? In this way it does not seem that there is only 1 driver who can get close to Verstappen, does it? at least, it seems that way at the moment. And Perez is a nice wingman for Verstappen, I think.
Lewis hamilton has not yet achieved victory in a race this year but his confidence comes from the comparison of his present performance to that of the previous year. Mercedes had to work hard to close the gap with Red bull in 2022 which proved to be a challenging feat. But making predictions about the future of Formula 1 can be fascinating. It is unlikely that only one driver will pose a danger to Max verstappen in the upcoming season which bodes both uncertainty and excitement. Due to the dynamic nature of the sport teams can significantly improve over the off season and new contenders can appear. While Sergio perez has been a great colleague for Verstappen changes in driver lineups and team plans could result in the introduction of new dynamics. Consequently the upcoming season could bring surprises and a more competitive field.
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June 23, 2023, 07:02:16 AM
#14


Yes, I also use copyleaks for AI text detection. In addition to everything, this application has a convenient extension that allows you to check texts on the fly. I would like to pay attention to the posts of this person, they are very similar to the use of an AI tool, but apparently he edits the posts a little, and therefore copyleaks does not always manage to guess up to 99% accuracy.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yuriy1991-1128239
legendary
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June 23, 2023, 06:46:34 AM
#13
Let's start with JayTrain. All or nearly all his posts for last months are written by AI. Don't know why isn't he banned yet.

It would appear he's been temp banned as was suggested by lovesmayfamilis... he doesn't seem like the type to just stop posting during a campaign.

Maybe, but it's what I can't check. I looked through the list of banned ones and didn't see him.

I don't see where you are getting these percentages from for Copyleaks. I even signed up to use the Enhanced version and it just says "AI Content Detected".

"Hover over text."



But I do see what you're doing by combining the two posts into one for hivemoderation. Its better to just copy and paste the same short post twice (or three times) to meet the 750 char minimum. Because if I combine one human post and one AI post it may report that both or neither of the posts are AI (less accuracy).

If I'd combined posts from different users and got a false positive result it could be a problem because it could blame someone with natural text. But here all posts are from the same user.

When it will give false negative result for an AI spammer we can choose some other AI generated posts of him. More text gives better results then several times the same text, because a detector has more patterns can be found.

I combined a couple of your short posts with couple of mine and hivemoderation gave 0%. If there will be any chance of false positive by combining natural posts of a same user then it could be a problem. False negative is a lesser problem IMO. We can just wait for more AI posts of a spammer to catch him.
legendary
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June 23, 2023, 06:20:30 AM
#12
Let's start with JayTrain. All or nearly all his posts for last months are written by AI. Don't know why isn't he banned yet.

It would appear he's been temp banned as was suggested by lovesmayfamilis... he doesn't seem like the type to just stop posting during a campaign.

I don't see where you are getting these percentages from for Copyleaks. I even signed up to use the Enhanced version and it just says "AI Content Detected".

But I do see what you're doing by combining the two posts into one for hivemoderation. Its better to just copy and paste the same short post twice (or three times) to meet the 750 char minimum. Because if I combine one human post and one AI post it may report that both or neither of the posts are AI (less accuracy).
legendary
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Merit: 3016
June 23, 2023, 04:49:25 AM
#11
Okay, let's try. As I see, luckily main part of my collection was worked by someone else as well, but some have not deleted AI posts and not being banned yet.

Let's start with JayTrain. All or nearly all his posts for last months are written by AI. Don't know why isn't he banned yet.

It's great to see the increasing interest of both men and women in Bitcoin as a potential career choice. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency offer opportunities for financial independence and flexibility, which can be particularly beneficial for women managing multiple responsibilities. By choosing Bitcoin as a profession, women can have more control over their time and finances, allowing them to balance family commitments while pursuing their career goals.

copyleaks 77.8%

It's unfortunate to hear about your experience with a fraudulent scheme involving a KOL and airdrop tokens. It serves as a reminder to always exercise caution and verify the credibility of individuals and projects before engaging in any financial transactions or sharing personal information. It's essential to do thorough research, rely on trusted sources, and be vigilant to protect yourself from potential scams in the cryptocurrency space.

copyleaks 95.8%

hivemoderation two posts above combined to achieve minimum character number, 99.9%



It is concerning to hear about the harassment and fear experienced by Bitcoin holders in your neighborhood due to government scrutiny and potential criminal activities associated with the use of cryptocurrency. The safety of physical cryptocurrency dealers depends on the legal and regulatory environment in your country. It is important for individuals and businesses involved in cryptocurrency exchanges to comply with relevant laws and regulations to minimize risks. The fate of physical cryptocurrency exchanges varies from country to country, as regulations and government attitudes differ.

copyleaks 75.6%

Given the concerns surrounding the dollar crisis and potential bank failures in your country, it's understandable that you are seeking alternative ways to protect your savings and secure your children's future. Investing in Bitcoin as a store of value can be a valid strategy to safeguard against inflation and financial instability. However, it's important to note that Bitcoin is a volatile asset and its value can fluctuate significantly.

copyleaks 99.9%

hivemoderation two posts above combined to achieve minimum character number, 99.9%



So now I send a report on these 4 posts and we'll see what will happen, right?
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