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legendary
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June 23, 2023, 04:07:54 AM
#10
Try https://copyleaks.com/ai-content-detector. It gives false negative results too and who probably stole the nlovric's acc would also pass it's check with about just 30+% of AI probability. But comparing to other tools I'd say it works good and I haven't ever seen it giving false positive results yet.

OK I'll give it a look next time. I'm thinking that the initial standards I propose need to change b/c they are too rigid... Perhaps it will be something like "any 2 AI detectors that report post text with a strong likelihood of being AI generated" in the future. Ultimately it depends on what the moderators think suffices, and speaking of that, here is the update on the 4 nlovric posts from above that were reported as "AI spam" with a reference link to this thread:

legendary
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June 23, 2023, 03:25:52 AM
#9
I'm thinking of lowering the standards for what can be included as AI-assisted because both writer.com and writefull.com are extremely lenient compared to hivemoderation.com.
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I didn't try writefull.com very often, but it says that it tries to find only ChatGPT written texts. Maybe the problem is in that.

writer.com gives false negative results really often. I don't know why do many use this detector.

Try https://copyleaks.com/ai-content-detector. It gives false negative results too and who probably stole the nlovric's acc would also pass it's check with about just 30+% of AI probability. But comparing to other tools I'd say it works good and I haven't ever seen it giving false positive results yet.
legendary
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June 23, 2023, 01:45:43 AM
#8
I'm thinking of lowering the standards for what can be included as AI-assisted because both writer.com and writefull.com are extremely lenient compared to hivemoderation.com.

I want to mention this poster because I am 100% certain that not only is it a bought account but that they are using AI to write posts -- but they are a bit more clever than the other examples because they remove punctuation from their posts, which tricks the detectors. It ends up looking like spam gibberish and nobody will ever read them but they get paid for them anyway.



First of all, nlovric has a registration date of February 03, 2012, yet they wrote this:

2. When and why did you buy your first bitcoin?

Answer: I bought my first bitcoin in 2019 when bitcoin was around $8,000-$9,000. I bought $1500 to $2,000 worth of bitcoins. I do not remember which exchange I used but I sold it a few months later and I do not remember why  Huh

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Post #1: Here's an example of a post with the punctuation removed:

It is crucial to approach the activity with prudence and a focus on risk management when beginning cryptocurrency trading without any prior expertise of technical analysis. Determining entry and exit points for trades becomes difficult without the capacity to analyse charts and indicators. Alternative tactics should be thought of in this circumstance. One strategy might be to focus on fundamental analysis which entails investigating the cryptocurrency underlying project and assessing its prospects for long term success. The likelihood of making winning trades can be increased by choosing cryptocurrencies with solid fundamentals. To reduce the loss of investing in a single dubious cryptocurrency or a shoddy project it would also be wise to diversify your portfolio among several different cryptocurrencies. Finally navigating the volatility and making wise trading decisions can be aided by regularly monitoring the market staying current with news and developments and getting guidance from reliable sources.

Despite the fact that technical analysis is useful in cryptocurrency trading it is not the only strategy available. With proper planning it is possible to handle trade without relying entirely on technical indications.

It comes back as 32.4% likely to contain AI Generated Text, according to hivemoderation.com.

Here it is with proper punctuation:

Though it is normal to worry about a team future it is crucial to keep in mind that Real Madrid is a team with a long history of success and the potential to draw elite players. There will surely be a vacuum left by Karim Benzema departure but that does not mean the squad will not be able to find replacements who are equally as capable. Real Madrid has an extensive network of scouts and an excellent eye for spotting potential players. Martinez and Osimhen are undoubtedly talented young players with promise but it is important to remember that there are other possibilities on the transfer market. Real Madrid will consider all of their choices before making a choice taking into account a player abilities flexibility and general fit with the team playing philosophy. Have faith in the club leadership and their capacity to decide what is best for the team going forward.

By itself, hivemoderation.com says it is 99.1% likely to contain AI Generated Text.



Post #3: They are also using ChatGPT to re-write quoted posts, which is maddeningly stupid:

Now Madrid also seems to want to strengthen their defense. Fran Garcia was sent home from Vallecano for just 5 million to match his current left-back performance. Even though in this case there are Alaba and Mendy, but with rumors that there are rumors that they will let Mendy go, it seems they want to be prepared at the start, besides that, the names Cancelo and Davies are also still associated with Madrid.

As for the current Strikers, they still have to wait for what steps they will take. Many names have been rumored with Madrid this time but all are still at the same stage only around rumors and speculation that cannot be confirmed. Hopefully they are really serious about finding a replacement now.
With the recent addition of Fran Garcia from Vallecano for a rumoured sum of only 5 million Madrid commitment on bolstering their defence is clear. Alaba and Mendy are already on the team as left-backs, but rumours of Mendy likely exit suggest the club wants to make sure they have enough backup from the beginning. The expectation surrounding their defensive additions has also been increased by the names Cancelo and Davies being mentioned in connection with a potential transfer to Madrid.

Regarding the department that is on strike, Madrid appears to be exercising greater restraint and carefully weighing their choices. Although many names have been linked to the club in different rumours nothing tangible has been done so far. As the suspense grows supporters and onlookers can only hope that Madrid is sincerely committed to finding a good replacement. Madrid must approach their search with seriousness and attention because the transfer market is a place of uncertainty where rumours and speculation rule.

Clearly AI didn't know that Strikers was in reference to a football position so it re-wrote the text as "department that is on strike," lol.



Post #4: Here's one more example where commas and apostrophes are removed, and he tacked on his own intro sentence at the beginning (hivemoderation.com says the rest of it is 99.9% likely to contain AI written text):

Yes, Regarding the laws of Bitcoin trade in some countries you raise a crucial point. Before engaging in Bitcoin trading or other cryptocurrency related activities people must be informed of their local laws and prohibitions. Forex and Bitcoin both include money yet they serve different functions and have different properties. In the world of cryptocurrencies Bitcoin functions as a decentralised digital asset with the possibility for transactions and investment. As opposed to this the term Forex refers to the foreign exchange market where conventional fiat currencies are traded. Each offers advantages and downsides of its own such as Bitcoin higher volatility when compared to FX which can lead to higher risks. The decision between the two ultimately comes down to tastes and circumstances. It is also important to note that one can investigate and participate in both Bitcoin and FX as long as they are familiar with the legal and regulatory landscape of their respective jurisdictions.

In the original version, GPTZero says its "likely to be written by a human," but after adding in the proper punctuation it goes up to a "moderate likelihood of being written by AI."
legendary
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June 18, 2023, 11:04:35 AM
#7
Yes, I also send reports with a note that the text is written by an AI tool.
Notably, the first report showed the user several deleted posts, and he was flagged as an AI spammer. But the person did not understand, wrote me a question, what is the reason for deleting his posts, and after that, he continued to use AI.





He is currently inactive, and I don't know if he had a temporary ban or not. We'll check it out in a few days.



legendary
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June 18, 2023, 08:15:27 AM
#6
Here are the report results for the above examples, each post was reported as "AI spam":



Would they have been deleted without the additional link reference appended to each report? Hard to say. Just to make it clear what I'm putting in each report, it looks like this:



with the link being to the post that contains the results of the AI analysis.



@nutildah
Is there a particular reason you suggest using those AI detectors and not some others? Are they more likely to detect automated content compared with some competitors.

I chose them for a few reasons:

- in my testing they seem to provide the most reliable results, although they're still not perfect
- they give a % as a result, which is more granular than something like "Your text is likely to be written entirely by AI"
- they are free of charge and don't require registration

I wanted to suggest two more AI classifiers that can get the job done and don't require you to register an account, pay for the service, etc. If you have any comments on their quality, don't hesitate to speak up.

https://gptzero.me/
https://platform.openai.com/ai-text-classifier

gptzero.me seems to do a fairly good job but the problem is the results are hard to compare to analyzers that return percentages; same thing with platform.openai.com which additionally requires creation of an account



Also, for posts like these:

Cryptography and cryptocurrencies can cause different opinions and discussions, and Tether is no exception. It is important to note that my opinion, as an AI model, is based on available information and general knowledge, and may differ from other people's opinions.
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I don't think its necessary to run them through the analyzers -- hopefully the mod will see this giveaway text written in the post. I will, however, be using this post as a reference for a neutral feedback... not sure if I'm gonna do that for every account mentioned here but I might.
legendary
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June 17, 2023, 04:14:33 AM
#4
@nutildah
Is there a particular reason you suggest using those AI detectors and not some others? Are they more likely to detect automated content compared with some competitors.
I wanted to suggest two more AI classifiers that can get the job done and don't require you to register an account, pay for the service, etc. If you have any comments on their quality, don't hesitate to speak up.

https://gptzero.me/
https://platform.openai.com/ai-text-classifier
legendary
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June 16, 2023, 04:12:38 AM
#3
Example #2:


Username: Sethrey

Post #1:

The United States has never defaulted on its obligations in its entire history, and there are several factors that make a default highly unlikely. It's crucial for investors and market participants to base their decisions on thorough analysis of economic indicators, government policies, and historical data, rather than being solely influenced by fear and speculation. By maintaining a balanced and informed perspective, one can make more accurate assessments of the market and avoid making decisions solely based on the fear of a U.S. default.

Hivemoderation: 89.1% likely to contain AI
Writer: 7% human


Post #2:

However, it's important to note that the value of cryptocurrencies can be highly volatile, especially during times of economic uncertainty. While some cryptocurrencies may see their value increase during times of war, others may see a decrease in value. Therefore, while cryptocurrencies can be a practical option for some people during times of war, it's important to carefully consider the risks and potential downsides before investing. It's always a good idea to diversify your portfolio and not rely solely on cryptocurrencies as a means of protecting your assets.

Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI
Contentatscale: 11% human
Writer: 4% human


Post #3:

While high taxes could discourage some individuals from using crypto or investing in blockchain technology, it's important to note that taxes are a necessary component of any economy. It's also possible that governments will implement a flexible tax model that promotes healthy growth of the crypto industry.

In any case, it's crucial for the crypto community to work with regulators and policymakers to develop clear tax guidelines that are fair and equitable for all parties involved. This will help to foster a more stable and sustainable environment for the nascent industry to thrive and reach its full potential.

Hivemoderation: 99.1% likely to contain AI
Writer: 12% human
legendary
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June 16, 2023, 03:55:42 AM
#2
Post format example:


Username: cryptodude

Post #1:

Bitcoin offers several benefits that make it an attractive asset and financial technology. Firstly, Bitcoin operates on a decentralized network, known as blockchain, which means that it is not controlled by any central authority, such as a government or financial institution. This decentralization provides individuals with greater financial freedom and removes intermediaries from transactions, resulting in lower fees and faster settlement times. Additionally, Bitcoin is a digital currency that can be sent and received globally without the need for traditional banking systems. It enables cross-border transactions with ease, making it a viable option for remittances and international commerce. Moreover, Bitcoin's limited supply, capped at 21 million coins, gives it a deflationary nature, which some see as a hedge against inflation and store of value. These features have contributed to Bitcoin's popularity and position as a unique and innovative form of money.

Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI
Writer: 28% human


Post #2:

Predicting the future of the crypto market is an extremely challenging task. The crypto market is highly volatile and influenced by various factors, including global events, regulatory developments, technological advancements, and investor sentiment. While some analysts and experts may provide insights and opinions on potential market movements, it is important to remember that these predictions are speculative in nature and should be approached with caution. Making investment decisions based solely on predictions can be risky. It is advisable to conduct thorough research, stay informed about the latest news, and consider multiple perspectives before making any financial decisions in the crypto market.

Hivemoderation: 99.8% likely to contain AI
Contentatscale: 28% human


Post #3:

Altcoins, or alternative cryptocurrencies, have experienced a variety of outcomes over time. Some altcoins have thrived and established themselves as significant players in the cryptocurrency market, gaining popularity and widespread adoption. These altcoins have proven to have unique features, innovative technologies, or specific use cases that differentiate them from Bitcoin, the most well-known cryptocurrency. However, other altcoins have struggled to gain traction or maintain their value due to various factors such as lack of utility, poor development, or market volatility. The fate of altcoins largely depends on their ability to solve real-world problems, attract user interest, and adapt to changing market conditions. As the cryptocurrency ecosystem continues to evolve, altcoins will continue to face challenges and opportunities, shaping their individual paths in the ever-changing landscape of digital currencies.

Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI
Contentatscale: 25% human
legendary
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June 16, 2023, 03:14:10 AM
#1
This thread will serve as a repository for AI spam references in instances where posts written using AI (ChatGPT) cannot immediately be recognized as so.

The thread works like this:

When you wish to report a post as being "AI spam," particularly for posts that might not be explicit spam but still generated by AI, you can include a reference link in the report to your own post in this thread, which will contain results from AI detector analyses of the post. When adding an offending account to this thread for the first time, your post should include three or more examples of AI-generated posts by that account. Subsequently, each time the account makes an AI-generated post, those posts can be individually added to this thread, if necessary.

Here are the criteria that will be used to determine whether or not a post was either wholly or partially made using AI (as originally referenced in this thread):

  • At least 2 of the 6 AI content detectors mentioned below must give a result of the post having a strong likelihood of containing AI-written material (with "strong likelihood" defined for each one):

    1. Hive Moderation* - 70% likely to contain AI generated text or above
    2. Writefull GPT Detector - 70% likely to come from GPT-3, GPT-4 or ChatGPT or above
    3. Writer AI Detector - 30% human-generated content or below
    4. Copyleaks AI Content Detector - 70% probability for AI or higher
    5. Contentatscale AI Detector - 30% likely to be human or below
    6. Sapling AI Detector - 70% Fake or above

    (Pay-to-use AI detectors have been excluded to keep verification accessible to all)
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  • There must be at least 3 posts by the account that meet the requirements specified in A. If its just a one-off or even two-off, the poster may deserve some leniency, but if they make a habit of it, their posts should be reported as "AI spam."
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  • Clues to help identify an AI poster before putting their posts through the detection process include:

    - using perfect English & punctuation when the poster's previous posts did not
    - writing long texts in rapid succession, when it was unlikely to be possible manually
    - their posts are frequently riddled with phrases mentioned here.


This approach primarily reinforces reports concerning "AI written" or "AI spam" content. It also serves as a public means to highlight accounts engaging in such behavior, potentially discouraging others from doing so in the future.


*Note that if a post does not meet the minimum word/character count for analysis by a AI detection tool, you can simply repeat the post (double-paste) until it reaches it (this does not affect the quality of the analysis). Longer posts are of course better for this purpose.
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