Topic: [AIRDROP][BOUNTY] Marinecoin - Fast Eco-Friendly AI IoT Payment Network - page 3. (Read 4876 times)
March 22, 2018, 04:30:25 PM
I want to present you a life going fair distribution of Marinecoin, MTC. It is 500% faster than bitcoin and can handle up to 3500 transactions per second and zero fees. This time tested coin it is active since 2013, offering lower fees and faster transaction times than other block chains.Self-sustaining aka dev-less: MarineCoin ecosystem is not dependent on miners, developers or individuals.Details: https://marineco.in
March 22, 2018, 04:18:37 PM
Is the distribution of the token passing through airdrop or ICO?If only airdrop, that would be a good project.
It's an airdrop that requires you to do a small task. But yes this is a fair distribution to everyone. First BTC, then LTC, Next MTC.
March 22, 2018, 12:26:55 PM
Is the distribution of the token passing through airdrop or ICO?If only airdrop, that would be a good project.
This coin is on ICO phase, but it is 100% airdrop based ICO.
March 22, 2018, 11:53:07 AM
Is the distribution of the token passing through airdrop or ICO?If only airdrop, that would be a good project.
March 21, 2018, 08:56:35 PM
Have written some quantity.
MTC looks like a great community coins among the other scam coins and greedy devs who hold a super majority. A truly fair decentralized coin for once.
March 20, 2018, 05:15:28 AM
Have written some quantity.
March 19, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
Please help Marinecoin to create more seed messages for Jarvis for the new AI driven airdrop program to be launched in a few days:
https://marineco.in/forum/?view=thread&id=246
Hey Team,
We need as many Unique messages as you can write for the AI Jarvis MTC Message Generator. These messages will be posted to Bitcointalk threads so keep that in mind.
Currently the only required parameters are the words listed below be included in ALL messages, case sensitive:
Marinecoin
DEV-less
MTC
artificial
intelligence
The message HAS to be in English for now. Bruce is working on incorporating additional languages, but for this phase, English only.
Other than that the message is up to you! Please keep them as high quality as possible, good grammar/punctuation. Volunteers will peruse and edit before they are submitted to Jarvis for use. Thanks in advance team, lets get this ICO back on track!!
New process: (if I have something wrong here, MODS edit please, if you are not a mod and see something wrong DM me on discord @brightlight)
The new ICO process will utilize the Jarvis artificial intelligence protocol created by Marinecoin founder @bruce_wayne. Any user can navigate to Jarvis who will then walk you through the steps on how to Promote Marinecoin and then get Paid 20,000 MTC's per post. Jarvis will generate the post for you, all you have to do is post it within the 15 minute time limit, give the link of your post to Jarvis for verification and then 24hrs later receive payment!
Jarvis will limit the number of times a Bitcointalk username/IP address combo accomplishes the promotion task per day, since bitcointalk has an IP address/Username posting limit, Jarvis will help keep you from getting banned
Anyone can participate in this new method, even if you have received the ICO already in the previous Phases, if you listen to Jarvis and accomplish the tasks presented to you, you'll get paid in MTC!
https://marineco.in/forum/?view=thread&id=246
Hey Team,
We need as many Unique messages as you can write for the AI Jarvis MTC Message Generator. These messages will be posted to Bitcointalk threads so keep that in mind.
Currently the only required parameters are the words listed below be included in ALL messages, case sensitive:
Marinecoin
DEV-less
MTC
artificial
intelligence
The message HAS to be in English for now. Bruce is working on incorporating additional languages, but for this phase, English only.
Other than that the message is up to you! Please keep them as high quality as possible, good grammar/punctuation. Volunteers will peruse and edit before they are submitted to Jarvis for use. Thanks in advance team, lets get this ICO back on track!!
New process: (if I have something wrong here, MODS edit please, if you are not a mod and see something wrong DM me on discord @brightlight)
The new ICO process will utilize the Jarvis artificial intelligence protocol created by Marinecoin founder @bruce_wayne. Any user can navigate to Jarvis who will then walk you through the steps on how to Promote Marinecoin and then get Paid 20,000 MTC's per post. Jarvis will generate the post for you, all you have to do is post it within the 15 minute time limit, give the link of your post to Jarvis for verification and then 24hrs later receive payment!
Jarvis will limit the number of times a Bitcointalk username/IP address combo accomplishes the promotion task per day, since bitcointalk has an IP address/Username posting limit, Jarvis will help keep you from getting banned
Anyone can participate in this new method, even if you have received the ICO already in the previous Phases, if you listen to Jarvis and accomplish the tasks presented to you, you'll get paid in MTC!
March 18, 2018, 11:28:08 PM
Hello. Actually this is a great ICO. They have a bright future, but they do not need to call for capital to have no risk to investors. that's a great idea. I support Marineco and Jarvis.
March 18, 2018, 09:27:34 PM
The price of Marinecoin today skyrocketed at the f1cx exchange. Now the MTC/Dogecoin pair trades at historical new high today.
Not really, no one can even deposit their marinecoin to sell it.
March 18, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
the stop is Temporary，Core dev Bruce is making a new method to airdrop,just wait.
March 18, 2018, 05:35:05 PM
Anyone tell me what the airdrop is over??
March 18, 2018, 05:28:55 PM
Can i participate in this project at that time??
March 18, 2018, 12:09:10 PM
The price of Marinecoin today skyrocketed at the f1cx exchange. Now the MTC/Dogecoin pair trades at historical new high today.
March 17, 2018, 08:11:58 PM
Update (March 17, 2018) from DISCORD Channel: Marinecoin Roadmap, POP AI Driven Airdrop, Transaction Confirmation
There has been a lots activities in DISCORD Channel over past two days on topics of Marinecoin roadmap, new AI driven airdropping method, and transaction confirmation technical details.
The Marinecoin creator and Dev Bruce in DISCORD explained the roadmap on Thursday that " Marinecoin is a mature complete product, it’s only road map is the distribution of MTC and make it devless by giving community the keys. The ultimate goal is providing the necessary easy to use tools to non-tech MTC community members and have them act as developers independently creating %100 decentralization". Bruce further attacks status quo in the current crypto world that "Currently all coins with miners and hot shot developers are not decentralized, every new wallet update takes away from the community and gives more to the miners and the developers, this type of scenario can only fool certain people for a certain amount of time."
Over pasts several days, the previous old Marinecoin airdropping method has been suspended due to large degree of scamming applicants. The Marinecoin Airdrop started initially with full KYC 2 months ago when the applicants had to provide government IDs and selfie upload as well as phone number SMS verification. The KYC process went well attracting the first thousand of applicants. However, at later stage of KYC period, Dev Bruce noticed that many people in crypto world are against KYC and also many scamming applications with fake IDs and photos showed up in applications. The Marinecoin dev team then abolished KYC and only required facebook account and later with wechat, twitter or any kind of impactful social media account plus 5 bitcointalk posts to obtain 450,000 MTC per member airdrop. Several Marinecoin volunteers include myself showed up as forum MOD to approve or reject the applicants. This method so far attracted and airdropped 450,000 MTC to about 3500 seed members so far up to date. This method also hit wall recently because of huge percentage of scamming applications observed so far. The volunteers are not paid for helping Marinecoin airdropping process. If the end results of airdropping is handing out large amount of MTCs to real human, I think volunteer model will work out fine because the more seed members obtain the airdrop, the more value will be on the existing holdings of each volunteer. This model breaks when the time and effort are spent on scam prevention with huge waste of resource.
Dev Bruce proposed and is implementing a third method of airdropping Marinecoin to future seed members, I call it "AI driven Airdrop". Jarvis will be taught Artificial Intelligence to review applicants's proof of promotion (POP) work. For example a new member promotes marinecoin ICO and provide to Jarvis link to your post in bitcointalk, and AI review the text with predefined parameters, If will pass by following all rules. Bruce showed a web page screenshot in DISCORD with title "Marinecoin POP - Proof of Promotion MTC Generator". Bruce gave an update on the progress two days ago and here are the update transcripts:
Bruce_Wayne - Last Thursday at 11:30 AM
Before I leave, a final update on the status of the Jarvis AI proof of promotion MTC generator has been coming along nicely, I had to write extra code for some of the concerns I had about people who surely will try to trick the system, I had all the two parts working now, submission/verification is the first part and distribution of MTC to verified posts. Now we need messages at least 100 messages to start with so that every person is more likely to post a different message, I also added a shuffler so that the probability of a message appearing on the same topic is significantly reduced
Brightlight - Last Thursday at 11:32 AM
Do you need the community to generate 100 unique messages for Jarvis to test?
Bruce_Wayne - Last Thursday at 11:37 AM
I will try this tomorrow on bitcointalk change the settings temporarily for Bitcoin message approval so that I don’t get banned, after I will give you an update on the results. But from earlier tests I can tell you that it is working very efficiently. I added a message comparator feature, it checks the percentage of likeness of the submitted message to the pre-approved message just in case some users might miss the dot or manually correct a sentence, or the webpage parses some text differently. They will still get their MTC
Bruce_Wayne - Last Thursday at 11:40 AM
@Brightlight#4138 Let’s start with 20 great messages so that the moderators can test next week on password protected page, if you make a topic and posted them on our forum it will really help fill the database initially.
Yesterday a user buffy238 who claimed to have a Hero account at Bitcointalk showed up in DISCORD Channel had long conversation with Dev Bruce and other community members on topics of new airdropping method and Marinecoin transaction confirmations. Below are the transcripts:
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
The best way to weed out scammers I have concluded is to unleash the non-scammers
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
what does that even mean bruce?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
it means human eyes
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:12 PM
From now on every one can apply for free MTC as many times he wants
It is the only way to stop scammers
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
It's not a huge deal really
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
raiblocks (nano) you could get as much as you wanted
that was a free distribution
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
but less reward?
but do the work and get rewarded?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
We are going to dilute the ICO with time, it’s the only solution for fair distribution with many many holders
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
I guess if the scammers are posting good posts thats good in some respect right?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
They can only post what we give them
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
So when less mtc are left to hand out the rewards will lower?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
what do you mean Bruce?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
If there is a spelling error they will not get
marcmeh - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
@Bruce_Wayne was the amount of scammers that high the last weeks?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:17 PM
Not really but they made life difficult
@lacy25 For which one?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:17 PM
Are you saying they will be posting the same post repeatedly?
@Bruce_Wayne you said they will post only what you give them
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:18 PM
There will be 100s of messages ready for hundreds of predetermined topics, each cycle the participant will be a assigned one from the shuffle
One pair, a message and a topic to post the reply on
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:20 PM
thats cool, sounds more organized and predictable
which is what most people want consistancy and fairness
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:20 PM
Some of the recent cryptos that distributed the majority through airdrop (some tasks required)
ebitcoin, rebellious, deep onion
they all have really large and strong communities
of course raiblocks as well
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:22 PM
but what will be the reward. if its small people might not respond to posts
Who will be writting these 100s of pre approved messages? @Bruce_Wayne
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:24 PM
just use old ones already approved?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:25 PM
This one will the best ever, I will add other features such as points etc after we get going, if you get banned by BCT no problem your points will carry over to the new BCT username with your MTC wallet, there will be daily and weekly draws where people posted most in one week will have a higher probability of winning the jackpot, also the size of the jackpot will be calculated by a certain percentage of the daily MTC volume on the exchange this will be all provided automatically without any human input by our very own Jarvis himself
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:28 PM
only bitcointalk accounts? or are other forums acceptable
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:28 PM
@Bruce_Wayne So are you saying there will be a jackpot? But no guaranteed signup reward? Your reward is by chance? Will there be a baseline reward for signing up?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:29 PM
@buffy238 There will be other versions but the reward will be calculated by the Alexa webpage traffic rank if BCT is 20.000 per post cryptocurrencytalk will be 2000 etc
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:30 PM
ok
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:31 PM
You'll have to make 22.5 bct posts to make 450000 . Is that possible?
It will take a month?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:32 PM
@lacy25 You will get 20.000 or so for your post but Jackpot there is no guarantee, it will be based on effort but will only increase the chance there will still be small probability the 2nd 3rd or the 10th place holder to win the jackpot also
I said it, dilute the ICO with time. That’s the only way for fair distribution
If you give up someone else will tag along next month and an other the month after.
There is no 450.000 MTC limit also. You can aim much higher
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:35 PM
so you can post 1 post a day and make more than 450000? @Bruce_Wayne
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:37 PM
You can open 5 accounts and make 5 posts a day from different IP addresses anything scammers will do you are allowed to do also(edited)
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:37 PM
blocking ips does nothing anyways
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:38 PM
lol
Dont give up.
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:38 PM
There is still a limit of IP addresses one can obtain, if you abuse it BCT will block all your C class network
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:39 PM
how wil these posts be tracked and verified?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:39 PM
You will be left with nothing
@lacy25 Very easily because we know where they are and exactly what they should look like
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:40 PM
Bonus points for Pictures ? :smiley:
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
But you ll still have moderators checking links and screenshoots?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
You will not be able to edit the pew approved messages, that will reduce the chance of approval
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
that will be a whole lot more volume for them to keep track of?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:42 PM
It’s all automatic
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:42 PM
but bitcointalk might delete these posts?
So jarvis will check immediately that you posted it?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:44 PM
Jarvis will know when it was posted and if it was deleted
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:45 PM
will it still count if deleted?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:45 PM
There will be delay payout
@lacy25 Yes
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:46 PM
cool
The only problem i see is everyone using the same vpn may likely get banned
they will need a unique vpn
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:47 PM
at a college or library they are screwed
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:48 PM
yes they will be
steopcik - Yesterday at 5:48 PM
@lacy25 banned VPN will reduce scammers and not allow others to use same VPN many times
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:48 PM
The messages will be across the platform, they will not be concentrated on a few topics message after an other, I think there will be less deletions
Paid VPN scammers usually don’t pay.
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:49 PM
yeah i agree @steopcik just thinking about the worst case senario
there will be innocent people caught with the scammers
steopcik - Yesterday at 5:52 PM
also BCT have a great base of banned IP networks, i think they can ban an subnet, in this case any attempt to use free proxy or VPN will fail, they will try several times and will leave idea to scamm
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:52 PM
When will these 100s of messages be ready. Whos writing them?
Are you using old posts from members?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
I have created a special page where you can write and submit your message to the database you can write a message or two every week this is to be able to start, after we can have each new applicant submit a message to activate his account, or every time his BCT account gets banned
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
Everytim ehis bct account gets banned? I have a full member account...............
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
The new message can be archived and edited or approved for active duty when there is time
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
now I'm scared to even post
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
then he can post that message once a day after it is approved?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
@buffy238 You need to get a fake account. You will need many, if you want to generate MTC this way
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
ok
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:58 PM
@lacy25 Someone else will post it later, he will post an other message, new messages will be approved occasionally when there is free time or when the admins feel like doing it
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
if you already got 450000 mct, can you use an old approved message?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
No
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
youll have you create or use a new approved one?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:01 PM
When you create a message you will not be the one posting it.
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:01 PM
At some point youll need 1000s of new messages if someone wants to post every 24 hrs
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
Everyone will post pre approved messages, there will not be someone waiting for you to approve your new message so that you can post it
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
Will they get a new message to . post every day?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
Let me worry about that
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
Ok thats still being worked out.
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
99.99 chance they will get a new message everyday
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:04 PM
got it
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:04 PM
Bruce do you have enough funds for development? I was willing to do the 10mill mtc invester option, although the price is much much higher than the current rate
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:05 PM
What funds for development? You need to buy from the exchange.
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:06 PM
Why do you have the 10mill invester buy option on the website ?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:06 PM
i have a question about the block chain speed. Say a person makes a 50000 mct transaction, that should take 1 second? but i see mining requires 30 confirmations to finalize a block and that 30 confirmations takes a while?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
Because that’s the price we know is fair.
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
Hes talking about guardian nodes I think
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
Ok, I just wanted to support the project
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:08 PM
@lacy25 What’s the rush, wait 30 blocks, you can still send it after the 6th confirmation
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:10 PM
ok so the sixth is the magic number not 30. Trying to compare it to being faster than bitcoin which it 10 mins for one block @Bruce_Wayne
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:11 PM
@buffy238 Buy from the exchange that supports the project you pay fees after every trade that’s good enough
@lacy25 6 is a number, you can send MTC after 1 confirmation
6 is a safe number just Incase a block or two gets orphaned
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
So a block is fully validated in 6 confirmations? @Bruce_Wayne so why have 30 in the wallet's algorithm?
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
ok
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
@lacy25 That’s something else for maturity, for newly mined coins
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:14 PM
oh thats only for new coins?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:14 PM
A coin that already exists does not need to wait,
mining pools sometimes steer away forming a fork it is to prevent the fork being able to spend the coins that are newly mined
For bitcoin I think that number is 120
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:16 PM
What will get orphaned a new coin or new transaction are you referring to? or either can get orphnaed. Why would they get orphaned?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:16 PM
Or it used to be maybe they changed it
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
i get it
what s a fork, is it bad?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
That happens when your wallets gets a solved block from someone and someone else’s wallet gets from an other miner, eventually or mostly one beats the other and one of them turns to orphan
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:19 PM
Bitcoin has so many forked coins , I've lost count
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:19 PM
@lacy25 OK, these are not things that can be easily explained over chat.
Network fork is different
It’s usually temporary
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:20 PM
ok, but i understand everything youve said so far
so the fork is block something from happening
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:22 PM
it helps us all understand how things work better for the community I think
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:24 PM
@lacy25 You can’t truly understand a network fork unless you experience it live as it happens, and see how wallets start to behave
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:26 PM
Some of us are IT savvy, these transitions are not difficult especially when your discussing coding or patterns
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:26 PM
I'm not an expert by any means but I understand the basics
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:27 PM
Experiencing a fork is more like emotional, it is like what is going to happen to my coins way
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:27 PM
lol @Bruce_Wayne
We can absorb the information trust us.
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:29 PM
Usually coins with lots of mining pools and low hashpower increases the likelihood, if two fastest pool wallets are disconnected from each other splitting the rest of the regular clients problems may arise
Marinecoin coin does not have pools, and all GUI clients are connected to the backbone
This reduces the chance significantly
Each backbone node is also connected to each other directly
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:32 PM
i got that part. So 1 million transactions will be supported by 1 miliion gui clients, is that what your saying?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:33 PM
3 Million will be nothing , it is possible at the slowest speed
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:34 PM
Do you mind if I work on Some signatures for bitcointalk
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:35 PM
Default blocks size is 1 MB but if you look at the code it is actually 34 MB max 1 mb is set it can be changed to a higher number
No. Not at all
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:36 PM
ok
Idk how many people will wear em But I have a Hero account I'll at least ewar the sig
wear*
I've gotten sick of the amount of scams recently
Refreshing to be part of a good community coin
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:38 PM
Are you saying the code in the network will push through those 3 million transactions in 1 second?
wildan - Yesterday at 8:53 PM
now i can still get 450.000 MTC for free?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 8:57 PM
They are changing the rules you ll have to wait and see, you ll have to do more work I think to get 450000
There has been a lots activities in DISCORD Channel over past two days on topics of Marinecoin roadmap, new AI driven airdropping method, and transaction confirmation technical details.
The Marinecoin creator and Dev Bruce in DISCORD explained the roadmap on Thursday that " Marinecoin is a mature complete product, it’s only road map is the distribution of MTC and make it devless by giving community the keys. The ultimate goal is providing the necessary easy to use tools to non-tech MTC community members and have them act as developers independently creating %100 decentralization". Bruce further attacks status quo in the current crypto world that "Currently all coins with miners and hot shot developers are not decentralized, every new wallet update takes away from the community and gives more to the miners and the developers, this type of scenario can only fool certain people for a certain amount of time."
Over pasts several days, the previous old Marinecoin airdropping method has been suspended due to large degree of scamming applicants. The Marinecoin Airdrop started initially with full KYC 2 months ago when the applicants had to provide government IDs and selfie upload as well as phone number SMS verification. The KYC process went well attracting the first thousand of applicants. However, at later stage of KYC period, Dev Bruce noticed that many people in crypto world are against KYC and also many scamming applications with fake IDs and photos showed up in applications. The Marinecoin dev team then abolished KYC and only required facebook account and later with wechat, twitter or any kind of impactful social media account plus 5 bitcointalk posts to obtain 450,000 MTC per member airdrop. Several Marinecoin volunteers include myself showed up as forum MOD to approve or reject the applicants. This method so far attracted and airdropped 450,000 MTC to about 3500 seed members so far up to date. This method also hit wall recently because of huge percentage of scamming applications observed so far. The volunteers are not paid for helping Marinecoin airdropping process. If the end results of airdropping is handing out large amount of MTCs to real human, I think volunteer model will work out fine because the more seed members obtain the airdrop, the more value will be on the existing holdings of each volunteer. This model breaks when the time and effort are spent on scam prevention with huge waste of resource.
Dev Bruce proposed and is implementing a third method of airdropping Marinecoin to future seed members, I call it "AI driven Airdrop". Jarvis will be taught Artificial Intelligence to review applicants's proof of promotion (POP) work. For example a new member promotes marinecoin ICO and provide to Jarvis link to your post in bitcointalk, and AI review the text with predefined parameters, If will pass by following all rules. Bruce showed a web page screenshot in DISCORD with title "Marinecoin POP - Proof of Promotion MTC Generator". Bruce gave an update on the progress two days ago and here are the update transcripts:
Bruce_Wayne - Last Thursday at 11:30 AM
Before I leave, a final update on the status of the Jarvis AI proof of promotion MTC generator has been coming along nicely, I had to write extra code for some of the concerns I had about people who surely will try to trick the system, I had all the two parts working now, submission/verification is the first part and distribution of MTC to verified posts. Now we need messages at least 100 messages to start with so that every person is more likely to post a different message, I also added a shuffler so that the probability of a message appearing on the same topic is significantly reduced
Brightlight - Last Thursday at 11:32 AM
Do you need the community to generate 100 unique messages for Jarvis to test?
Bruce_Wayne - Last Thursday at 11:37 AM
I will try this tomorrow on bitcointalk change the settings temporarily for Bitcoin message approval so that I don’t get banned, after I will give you an update on the results. But from earlier tests I can tell you that it is working very efficiently. I added a message comparator feature, it checks the percentage of likeness of the submitted message to the pre-approved message just in case some users might miss the dot or manually correct a sentence, or the webpage parses some text differently. They will still get their MTC
Bruce_Wayne - Last Thursday at 11:40 AM
@Brightlight#4138 Let’s start with 20 great messages so that the moderators can test next week on password protected page, if you make a topic and posted them on our forum it will really help fill the database initially.
Yesterday a user buffy238 who claimed to have a Hero account at Bitcointalk showed up in DISCORD Channel had long conversation with Dev Bruce and other community members on topics of new airdropping method and Marinecoin transaction confirmations. Below are the transcripts:
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
The best way to weed out scammers I have concluded is to unleash the non-scammers
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
what does that even mean bruce?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
it means human eyes
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:12 PM
From now on every one can apply for free MTC as many times he wants
It is the only way to stop scammers
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
It's not a huge deal really
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
raiblocks (nano) you could get as much as you wanted
that was a free distribution
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
but less reward?
but do the work and get rewarded?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
We are going to dilute the ICO with time, it’s the only solution for fair distribution with many many holders
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
I guess if the scammers are posting good posts thats good in some respect right?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
They can only post what we give them
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
So when less mtc are left to hand out the rewards will lower?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
what do you mean Bruce?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
If there is a spelling error they will not get
marcmeh - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
@Bruce_Wayne was the amount of scammers that high the last weeks?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:17 PM
Not really but they made life difficult
@lacy25 For which one?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:17 PM
Are you saying they will be posting the same post repeatedly?
@Bruce_Wayne you said they will post only what you give them
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:18 PM
There will be 100s of messages ready for hundreds of predetermined topics, each cycle the participant will be a assigned one from the shuffle
One pair, a message and a topic to post the reply on
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:20 PM
thats cool, sounds more organized and predictable
which is what most people want consistancy and fairness
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:20 PM
Some of the recent cryptos that distributed the majority through airdrop (some tasks required)
ebitcoin, rebellious, deep onion
they all have really large and strong communities
of course raiblocks as well
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:22 PM
but what will be the reward. if its small people might not respond to posts
Who will be writting these 100s of pre approved messages? @Bruce_Wayne
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:24 PM
just use old ones already approved?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:25 PM
This one will the best ever, I will add other features such as points etc after we get going, if you get banned by BCT no problem your points will carry over to the new BCT username with your MTC wallet, there will be daily and weekly draws where people posted most in one week will have a higher probability of winning the jackpot, also the size of the jackpot will be calculated by a certain percentage of the daily MTC volume on the exchange this will be all provided automatically without any human input by our very own Jarvis himself
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:28 PM
only bitcointalk accounts? or are other forums acceptable
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:28 PM
@Bruce_Wayne So are you saying there will be a jackpot? But no guaranteed signup reward? Your reward is by chance? Will there be a baseline reward for signing up?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:29 PM
@buffy238 There will be other versions but the reward will be calculated by the Alexa webpage traffic rank if BCT is 20.000 per post cryptocurrencytalk will be 2000 etc
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:30 PM
ok
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:31 PM
You'll have to make 22.5 bct posts to make 450000 . Is that possible?
It will take a month?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:32 PM
@lacy25 You will get 20.000 or so for your post but Jackpot there is no guarantee, it will be based on effort but will only increase the chance there will still be small probability the 2nd 3rd or the 10th place holder to win the jackpot also
I said it, dilute the ICO with time. That’s the only way for fair distribution
If you give up someone else will tag along next month and an other the month after.
There is no 450.000 MTC limit also. You can aim much higher
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:35 PM
so you can post 1 post a day and make more than 450000? @Bruce_Wayne
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:37 PM
You can open 5 accounts and make 5 posts a day from different IP addresses anything scammers will do you are allowed to do also(edited)
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:37 PM
blocking ips does nothing anyways
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:38 PM
lol
Dont give up.
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:38 PM
There is still a limit of IP addresses one can obtain, if you abuse it BCT will block all your C class network
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:39 PM
how wil these posts be tracked and verified?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:39 PM
You will be left with nothing
@lacy25 Very easily because we know where they are and exactly what they should look like
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:40 PM
Bonus points for Pictures ? :smiley:
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
But you ll still have moderators checking links and screenshoots?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
You will not be able to edit the pew approved messages, that will reduce the chance of approval
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:41 PM
that will be a whole lot more volume for them to keep track of?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:42 PM
It’s all automatic
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:42 PM
but bitcointalk might delete these posts?
So jarvis will check immediately that you posted it?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:44 PM
Jarvis will know when it was posted and if it was deleted
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:45 PM
will it still count if deleted?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:45 PM
There will be delay payout
@lacy25 Yes
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:46 PM
cool
The only problem i see is everyone using the same vpn may likely get banned
they will need a unique vpn
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:47 PM
at a college or library they are screwed
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:48 PM
yes they will be
steopcik - Yesterday at 5:48 PM
@lacy25 banned VPN will reduce scammers and not allow others to use same VPN many times
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:48 PM
The messages will be across the platform, they will not be concentrated on a few topics message after an other, I think there will be less deletions
Paid VPN scammers usually don’t pay.
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:49 PM
yeah i agree @steopcik just thinking about the worst case senario
there will be innocent people caught with the scammers
steopcik - Yesterday at 5:52 PM
also BCT have a great base of banned IP networks, i think they can ban an subnet, in this case any attempt to use free proxy or VPN will fail, they will try several times and will leave idea to scamm
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:52 PM
When will these 100s of messages be ready. Whos writing them?
Are you using old posts from members?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
I have created a special page where you can write and submit your message to the database you can write a message or two every week this is to be able to start, after we can have each new applicant submit a message to activate his account, or every time his BCT account gets banned
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
Everytim ehis bct account gets banned? I have a full member account...............
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
The new message can be archived and edited or approved for active duty when there is time
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:56 PM
now I'm scared to even post
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
then he can post that message once a day after it is approved?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
@buffy238 You need to get a fake account. You will need many, if you want to generate MTC this way
buffy238 - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
ok
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 5:58 PM
@lacy25 Someone else will post it later, he will post an other message, new messages will be approved occasionally when there is free time or when the admins feel like doing it
lacy25 - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
if you already got 450000 mct, can you use an old approved message?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
No
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
youll have you create or use a new approved one?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:01 PM
When you create a message you will not be the one posting it.
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:01 PM
At some point youll need 1000s of new messages if someone wants to post every 24 hrs
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
Everyone will post pre approved messages, there will not be someone waiting for you to approve your new message so that you can post it
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
Will they get a new message to . post every day?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:02 PM
Let me worry about that
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
Ok thats still being worked out.
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:03 PM
99.99 chance they will get a new message everyday
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:04 PM
got it
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:04 PM
Bruce do you have enough funds for development? I was willing to do the 10mill mtc invester option, although the price is much much higher than the current rate
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:05 PM
What funds for development? You need to buy from the exchange.
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:06 PM
Why do you have the 10mill invester buy option on the website ?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:06 PM
i have a question about the block chain speed. Say a person makes a 50000 mct transaction, that should take 1 second? but i see mining requires 30 confirmations to finalize a block and that 30 confirmations takes a while?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
Because that’s the price we know is fair.
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
Hes talking about guardian nodes I think
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
Ok, I just wanted to support the project
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:08 PM
@lacy25 What’s the rush, wait 30 blocks, you can still send it after the 6th confirmation
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:10 PM
ok so the sixth is the magic number not 30. Trying to compare it to being faster than bitcoin which it 10 mins for one block @Bruce_Wayne
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:11 PM
@buffy238 Buy from the exchange that supports the project you pay fees after every trade that’s good enough
@lacy25 6 is a number, you can send MTC after 1 confirmation
6 is a safe number just Incase a block or two gets orphaned
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
So a block is fully validated in 6 confirmations? @Bruce_Wayne so why have 30 in the wallet's algorithm?
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
ok
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
@lacy25 That’s something else for maturity, for newly mined coins
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:14 PM
oh thats only for new coins?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:14 PM
A coin that already exists does not need to wait,
mining pools sometimes steer away forming a fork it is to prevent the fork being able to spend the coins that are newly mined
For bitcoin I think that number is 120
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:16 PM
What will get orphaned a new coin or new transaction are you referring to? or either can get orphnaed. Why would they get orphaned?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:16 PM
Or it used to be maybe they changed it
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
i get it
what s a fork, is it bad?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
That happens when your wallets gets a solved block from someone and someone else’s wallet gets from an other miner, eventually or mostly one beats the other and one of them turns to orphan
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:19 PM
Bitcoin has so many forked coins , I've lost count
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:19 PM
@lacy25 OK, these are not things that can be easily explained over chat.
Network fork is different
It’s usually temporary
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:20 PM
ok, but i understand everything youve said so far
so the fork is block something from happening
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:22 PM
it helps us all understand how things work better for the community I think
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:24 PM
@lacy25 You can’t truly understand a network fork unless you experience it live as it happens, and see how wallets start to behave
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:26 PM
Some of us are IT savvy, these transitions are not difficult especially when your discussing coding or patterns
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:26 PM
I'm not an expert by any means but I understand the basics
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:27 PM
Experiencing a fork is more like emotional, it is like what is going to happen to my coins way
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:27 PM
lol @Bruce_Wayne
We can absorb the information trust us.
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:29 PM
Usually coins with lots of mining pools and low hashpower increases the likelihood, if two fastest pool wallets are disconnected from each other splitting the rest of the regular clients problems may arise
Marinecoin coin does not have pools, and all GUI clients are connected to the backbone
This reduces the chance significantly
Each backbone node is also connected to each other directly
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:32 PM
i got that part. So 1 million transactions will be supported by 1 miliion gui clients, is that what your saying?
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:33 PM
3 Million will be nothing , it is possible at the slowest speed
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:34 PM
Do you mind if I work on Some signatures for bitcointalk
Bruce_Wayne - Yesterday at 6:35 PM
Default blocks size is 1 MB but if you look at the code it is actually 34 MB max 1 mb is set it can be changed to a higher number
No. Not at all
buffy238 - Yesterday at 6:36 PM
ok
Idk how many people will wear em But I have a Hero account I'll at least ewar the sig
wear*
I've gotten sick of the amount of scams recently
Refreshing to be part of a good community coin
lacy25 - Yesterday at 6:38 PM
Are you saying the code in the network will push through those 3 million transactions in 1 second?
wildan - Yesterday at 8:53 PM
now i can still get 450.000 MTC for free?
lacy25 - Yesterday at 8:57 PM
They are changing the rules you ll have to wait and see, you ll have to do more work I think to get 450000
March 17, 2018, 01:25:22 AM
I like the coin
March 15, 2018, 08:39:28 AM
I'll buy marinecoin off anyone if they want to sell, I don't want to give my personal information to register for the exchange.pm me if you wan't to sell.
Hey there. So someone correct me if I’m wrong but I thought you could make an exchange account with just an email address?
I personally did all the ID verification crap but I’m pretty sure you can make a trade account with just an email address.
F1CX.com
March 15, 2018, 08:35:21 AM
MTC: Update: 15 March 2018
We now have two simultaneous efforts going on with MTC: bruce is in the middle of a coding binge developing a better way to mitigate fraudulent ICO scam attempts, y’all will love what he has in store for us. He Will be using a portion of the MTC tech to filter applications.
The team of community volunteers is working diligently on the white-ish paper. The draft has been written and the team is editing it as we speak. The goal is to release the community derived white paper at the same time as the next phase of the ICO airdrop process begins.
If interest in volunteering to help with any of these or help manage MTC social media accounts. Hop into discord and propose ideas 💡.
https://discord.gg/C6JnDJv
We now have two simultaneous efforts going on with MTC: bruce is in the middle of a coding binge developing a better way to mitigate fraudulent ICO scam attempts, y’all will love what he has in store for us. He Will be using a portion of the MTC tech to filter applications.
The team of community volunteers is working diligently on the white-ish paper. The draft has been written and the team is editing it as we speak. The goal is to release the community derived white paper at the same time as the next phase of the ICO airdrop process begins.
If interest in volunteering to help with any of these or help manage MTC social media accounts. Hop into discord and propose ideas 💡.
https://discord.gg/C6JnDJv
March 15, 2018, 01:38:00 AM
Just be patient for new Airdrop members. Dev Bruce is proposing a radically new airdrop method using AI to boost speed and cut down scams. Several community volunteers are working hard to get our first version of white paper out.
March 15, 2018, 12:25:02 AM
So is the Ico still suspended for now? Also how often does the dev hang in the telegram /discord chat.
Dev Bruce hang out in DISCORD daily, not much in Telegram.
Airdrop is temp suspended. Too much scammers applied and tying down the precious resource and time of community volunteers. The community and Dev are discussing a new method of cutting down scam applicants.
March 14, 2018, 09:48:07 PM
So is the Ico still suspended for now? Also how often does the dev hang in the telegram /discord chat.
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