Topic: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator - page 2. (Read 607 times)

   They change the name, but the scam stays the same. I agree with you on that Saint-loup, and OP should add that tag you
suggested, for more visibility.
   I regularly receive scam PM's on Telegram and on Twitter. All kind of propositions, and all of them ask for some starting
investment and promise big returns. I don't know do they attract anyone with this kind of scams?

I agree with you, and [nobbc][/nobbc] tag is even more convenient to use for that.
But more importantly, OP should post some screenshots of the website to allow people to see how it looks like, because these kind of scams regularly change their domain names AFAIK.  

That is why I'd never entertained new messages which I'd never expect have something to receive especially when it is coming from an unknown person and offers such a scamming trick, I'd rather have to block it ASAP.

BTW, thanks for this warning.
Yeah, it looks tempting and attractive offer but that is out from reality. Scammers are getting smart by now, they always find a way just to pursue their obvious scamming trick but they are hopeless to see that they can't hide their intention anymore since most of us are aware of this.

I do still doubt on this one because no one will throw out even $1-2 if they do know that this is something an obvious scam attempt.It might be a small amount but majority will not really tolerate on feeding up scammers.Who the hell would be the one will give out big win to a player even hes a moderator if he can do it by himself? With some logic and some common sense you can spot it directly that someone is just
trying to deceive you so that you would make a $100 deposit. Instead of trying to milk out the house, then you would be the one who would really be milked out.

I just learn from your incident that we must need to prepare ourselves just to face anything without losing control on our emotions always. Because we cannot pre-assume what is going to be targeted and how scammers will attempt on us to deceive so that they will start listening to them. Yes, when we are aware of something then we can assume how things will go otherwise, we may go and then will get trapped at the end of the day.

In this particular incident, if the minimum was not $100, then I guess you might have gone to try for it. Because (I am just talking from my point of view), if the minimum was under through out level like one or two dollars, then most people will give it a try on more than 50% of occasions.

Actually there are many stories about scams, and thank you for giving information about bitxplay. Of all the scams stories,
have in common that scammers direct us to make a deposit or make payments before the promised rewards was given. So
be careful if there are offers like that, sometimes fraudsters are not always unknown people. If about money is sometimes
a scammers it from people we already know. And be careful to use new gambling websites, because there are so many now
gambling websites that scams. Always investigate before using gambling websites, or select popular gambling websites and
old gambling websites if you want to be safe.

As many members already mentioned this is a pretty common scam tactic on Telegram lately. I was personally also bothered with these messages, but to be honest, it is pretty obvious that this is a scam and everybody should recognize it after only a few obvious questions.

First of all, why me? If this is such a great deal, why he doesn't do it with family or friends?
He replied that he didn't want his family or friends to know because a few friends are actually working with him (so this is not possible) and he didn't want the family to know what he was doing. A scammer who is afraid of friends and family, but is not afraid to ask strangers online and to provide all details? Pretty dumb explanation, in my opinion, don't you think?

So, I told him: "no problem we can still do this business, despite I don't believe you, but you have to send me the money first (only for the first bet) because I am poor and don't have it right now".
Of course, he denied, so I ask why not? He has nothing to lose, he works there, he will help me to win, he can block me or don't help me to win further if I don't send the money back.
Nothing helped, he still denied, so I told him that now I will contact the casino and tell them about everything. Of course, I haven't because it is an obvious scam attempt and I knew it from the start of this conversation.

As you can see from this example, we have always to be calm and think twice when somebody advertises such an offer or we talk with people on Telegram which are offering insane returns, especially, if from the beginning the scammer tells you that this is not (fully) legal. Remember that in such circumstances the victim even can't report it to Police or somewhere else because from the beginning knew that it's against the law. Of course, you can report everything, but I think they would look at you, not as a victim only an impostor who had just been scammed and do nothing to help.

I got already many offers like this on Telegram and talked with many of these scammers, always after a few questions they finish the conversation and disappear if they only see that there is no chance to scam me. They don't want to lose their precious time. Sorry to say, but they are looking for stupid, young, reach and not experienced people to scam. If they see that you have experience and ask the right questions, they will run away ASAP because there are thousands of other Telegram users to try this scam on them.

Until today even one offer which was advertised to me (like this one) on Telegram wasn't real, don't rush if somebody offers you a lot of money, especially if you have to pay first to get it  .

 

You can already identify it just from a few things tbh. 1, it's from telegram, a hellhole filled with scammers. 2, it's a new site, as OP said, and from what I found as well, the site was created on June 28th. Lastly, the mod cheating to make you win? Please. Idk why he would even need strangers for that, just make your family members or friends do it instead, it's a lot easier and safer. Especially the last point, that itself tells you that the one you're talking to is a scammer, or the site they are making you enter is a scam itself. I still don't really believe that others can fall for this, deep scams with a lot off planning involved, maybe, but this? Then you'd either be a complete noob with the internet or you're just plain ol stupid.
Well, if what the other party is legit, then if you won, he'd be able to manipulate the records one way or another. I doubt they'd be stupid enough to actually show to the public records of them winning continuously. A balance of win/loss should be maintained with them still profiteering off of it.

Didnt have time to look at the website because you have already said its a scam and my rule of thumb when it comes to telegram is >if someone shots you a pm first and you didn't ask them to and there is some sort of favour attached to their message then its all a SCAM ATTEMPT!! Don't bother with such just hit the report and ban Button at the bottom of their name.

Coming to the moderator picking jackpot winners, I thought moderators are not the personnel involved in the back-end of things depending on stepup anyway and besides what's the possibility that those are players are all in it on this grand scam, maybe there is no jackpot involved as well and remember you have to use your money to play to try and win so its your money the scammer wants, not you winning the jackpot!

OP, I would suggest you break the links in your original posts's body so it wouldn't be clickable. Otherwise it acts as kind of a backlink for the website that's probably a scam which helps the page rank among other search results. Of course the opposite is desired. Mention the name as much as you want but linking to it brings the result upwards with related keywords (for example gambling).

So just simply do not link (in other words, no clickable URL) when you are reporting a scam. The URL as plain text and the name of the website is fine.

The message itself makes it shady enough to not follow the link and ignore it.
One of the best and safe way to play and enjoy gambling is to search through in this forum for reputable and popular casino's and sports bookies there are even trustworthy users who listed the most renowned.

So basically, he wants to use others for side income.
Maybe the payment being a moderator is not that much.
This could be prevented if only they paid them well. 

He must be avoiding an IP trace or something near it.
The better option is to use the gamblers themself. That way, the track could not reach him especially if he uses cryptocurrencies as a means of payment to him.

Perhaps you could contact a customer support and tell them what is happening to avoid this from happening again.
If this is an inside job then the owner might not know he is being swindled by his employees.

It's honestly kind of a good karma in the end for those falling victims to those scams. They're basically trying to scam the casino and get scammed in return by those telegram users. If one has such a bad greed they end up accepting to steal money from a casino, then I think something must be very wrong and needs to be fixed ASAP.

several time that i have some offers like this but never that i come to entertain,because the more we answers their message is the more they are being aggressive on victimizing people.
And also they know that gamblers are usually greedy,so offers like this will cling to their mind and the attitude will come.
and besides those are not moderator or gambling house instead they are just fake to lure people.
scammers will always there to scam people no matter what they cost.

This is an old scam method though, we can see lot of similar scam attempts made on scam accusation section and also the same kind if layout used to scam users with random exchange as well like we have to withdraw funds but in our country it is nit possible so I will be sending my funds to you then you take half and pay me the remaining.

Always stay safe from telegram scammers, better uncheck allow receive from everyone on security settings.

If you don't want people to visit the site, don't put the link in the OP. bitxplay.com will do. Curiosity killed the cat!

Anyway, thanks for the heads up. However, I am 100% sure that Telegram is flooding with scams in various forms. And the first success of any scam is when their target responds or gives more attention to it than necessary. Even a tiny spark of curiosity on the part of the target is already a success to them.

So, I would always stick to the rule of thumb. Anything which offers money online but solicits a certain amount first is an outright scam. And this kind of scam is not even a well-designed one. This is a kind of scam which only those who are too greedy or too gullible will fall to.

Telegram messages coming from unknown person can't be trusted, indeed this shouldn't be entertained seriously. I was once a victim of private communication coming from private messages and lost huge amount of money. That's why I learned a lesson, and promised to myself to avoid any messages from stranger.
Gambling is more prone of this strategies, letting people be on their traps through false promises so let's be careful.

$100 is big money for many people, and they will think that it is not worth using it for gambling, even if that person sees the big prizes for the winner. But as you say, that will not be a problem for the greed person because they will try any chance to make money, but unfortunately, that will not happen as they expect. It is better to delete their chat in the telegram or another chat communication if the offers are too good to be true because they will only want your money.


I think we can report the telegram account to the telegram's support system, so they can ban that person because they are trying to scam people. If that succeeds, we can report the other people that will try to scam other people or us too, and maybe we can reduce the number of scammers.

You should ignore it the moment you received the message. I think OP is expecting too jk.

Please report their Telegram account too. They can come back anytime but at least that account will be tagged as a red flag and be nuked by Telegram.

Even a newbie nowadays won't fall on this trick. But I know there are still a few so let's spread the words about this.

Your story in the opening post is indeed one of the scammers' tricks to make money. And again starting from the telegram, it is indeed
the most important lesson that I can take from your story. Don't respond to messages from strangers on the telegram, because there is
a 99% chance of scammers. And keep in mind that our greed can lead us to become victims of fraud. Always be careful if there are attractive
offers, always use our logic for assessing the offer.