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November 28, 2017, 04:46:19 AM
#25
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


You're going to absolutely love this response. Technology is moving at a tremendously fast rate, don't worry about many of the responses you've received so far as the vast majority of people today think and see time in a very linear way as they can't envision the progression of time exponentially. Which means that many of them can't really remember when the cell phone of today ( for example ) was of a poorer quality 10 years ago. Today they would say, the cell phone was always as good as it is today. Ten years ago they would have said that their cell phones were the best they had always been and will never advance. The example I just gave you is called man's perception of Moore's Law of Accelerated returns where technological advancements are doubling faster and faster every year. Mankind is reaching a point where the human mind will struggle to keep track of time.

Here is a very popular Ted Talk that will help you find your answer:  

The Next Hundred Years of Your Life | Pedro Domingos | TEDxLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2YiRiLAU_Y
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November 28, 2017, 04:23:43 AM
#24
Maybe we cannot image that now.

This process needs time.

Nowadays we are surounded by computers and the internet nearly 24/7. This is also something which we would never think about. A lot of people are just out there to maintain all this and creating digital content which never ever exist 80 years ago.
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November 28, 2017, 04:16:17 AM
#23
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


But if all forms of work are only done by the robot How the fate of the people in the future because now in the search for work is very difficult So that will cause more unemployment and poverty will surely rampant.
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November 28, 2017, 03:56:50 AM
#22
Hi

please do not misunderstand me. I am not afraid at all. I just want to know how you guys thinking about this subject.

I am pretty sure that we will still have jobs. Just think about the steam era or the digitalization. 50 years in the past everybody would be afraid to have so money machines working for us and replace simple work.

I could believe that in 30 years we would work more in a consultant way. Not only to grow business but also to speak with people like a psychiatrist.

Just think about the evolution in the past few decades. More and more people are living alone or have less friends than before. That happens regrading our new lifestyle. Living far from home because of our jobs. Coming home late. Having to much things to do. Spending to much time with stuff that do not need community at all like browsing the internet, watching tv or playing games etc.

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November 27, 2017, 12:32:02 PM
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in 2050 and above.


Its really far far from now bro. What we expect to be predicted is what will be the price of bitcoin tomorrow and day after tomorrow. There has been so many attempts to think about the future in that way but I don't think that we need to think about 30 years from now. Th world is moving fast and we had no light couple of 100 years ago and we do have it now. We had computers 50 years ago and now we have quantum computers.


Yes, everything will change at its speed, space, time and it can not be changed. So juts enjoy it and we will adopt the change automatically as we pass through time. So just think about today bro and look at that price of bitcoin is 9.75K, what could be more reliving than this ! :-) Have fun!

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November 27, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
#20
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


The computer modernization and the automation that is implementing throughout the businesses are one of the proofs that modern machines will innovate our daily lives in no time, there are a lot of inventions in particular for the daily living but still, the prototypes and improvements must implement.

iam pretty sure that you can teach a machine better than a human. Just think about the network and the fast recognition time. As well it will never miss something nor it will remember something wrong or only detail of it.
Im agreeing with this statement, people tend to have a difference in every aspect, but a machine can make a copy of itself the same traits, the same features and uses, it is much easier to control and teach robots, just execute a programming code for it then the machine will act no matter what is the command, no refuses.
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November 27, 2017, 11:47:06 AM
#19
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Stop with all this robot stuff how about we enjoy our lives as they are now for the time being? Ya we all know robots will be integrated and transform the way we live our lives in the near future here, please lets enjoy now! Smiley
I get your point. You are worried to yourself and all other people who is living now. Enjoying life because if it happens that robot replace humans, it will still be in the future. Yeah you are right. Just enjoy the life we are living now. But, are you not worried about your son and daughter? . Or even your grandchilds because surely they will encounters so many robots in the near future. Sometimes. Lend some time to think about these things.
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November 27, 2017, 11:32:32 AM
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iam pretty sure that you can teach a machine better than a human. Just think about the network and the fast recognition time. As well it will never miss something nor it will remember something wrong or only detail of it.

One of the key arguments of this thesis is that we are too sepcialist in what we are doing. We are not all-rounder anymore.
That makes us week. A robot or computer could replace us because the tasked would be simple instead of doing several different things.
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November 27, 2017, 11:13:31 AM
#17
Even now there is a program that automates trading, it amazing how artificial intelligence had evolved from past. I am starting to get a sense why many famous people like Elon Musk, Stephen Hawking had a dramatically concerns about artificial intelligence as a threat to humanity.
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November 27, 2017, 10:55:31 AM
#16
Thats quite weird that nearly everybody doesnt believe in that.

But just to give you a short impression about how this could work out.

All our judgments and feelings are results of previous inputs. If you had a bad experience with dogs you will feel afraid of dogs doesnt matter if you do not want to be afraid.

That mean, if you could teach a robot to judge about a person if he is guilty he would check several things like blood presure, if he is sweating the way he speaks etc. We already use mechanics that to so. Why should it not be possible to program an algorithm that combine all these things and identify if someone is telling the truth or not.

Same for doctors. You will answer several questions and to some tests like checking the blood etc. after that the algorithm will diagnose what you will have.

Remember that the computer / robot will combine every single diagnose around the world and will the light years ahead of a single medic.

Read the book homo sapiens and you will understand. Thats an awesome book and no its not scienes fiction.
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November 24, 2017, 12:03:53 AM
#15
Robots are already used now a days in factory productions automation machine can already considered as robots but these machines still need human interventions. Imagine that if a production machine needs a human to manage it how much more if a machine needs to do more crucial tasks like those tasks that police and doctors do.
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November 23, 2017, 11:00:41 PM
#14
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


If this happens I wonder what will we do? Or will robots replace us completely? And then we will begin to fade.
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November 23, 2017, 10:44:32 PM
#13
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



I agree that more and more jobs are going to get replaced by machines ata faster rate than useful jobs could be created, but I really doubt a police officer, lawyer or doctor could be able to get replaced by a machine in 50 years, certainly not in 2050...

For you to have a fully replaceable police officer, the robot would need to be a literal terminator, capable of moving across every possible obstacle, asking questions, shooting, driving... anything that a police officer does on their career. It is simply impossible to come up with such a machine anytime soon, and 50 is soon. Maybe try again in year 3000.

Yes if it happens robots can't replace every job that humans can do. Even if algorithms can help them on identifying what is right and what is not the decision that they will have will still not be the same. They don't have a heart to consider.
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November 23, 2017, 07:13:11 PM
#12
There are studies which claim 50% of current jobs are vulnerable to automation. The potential for mechanizing jobs is debatable as are the implications. There are many indirect points of interest such as the end result of replacing humans who pay taxes with robots who do not.

Artificial intelligence is a hot topic at the moment with considerable myths and hysteria surrounding it. There are also political angles which could be taken into account in terms of military drones and robotic vehicles centralizing military power under a single authority. The survival of republics may depend upon decentralized power in the form of congress, senate and different branches of legislative power. Drones have a net effect of centralizing this power in a way which could empower totalitarianism.

It is possible that artificial intelligence is an incorrect term to describe the recent uptick in automated software. Many of the AI utilized in games like chess or go are brute force machines which attempt to calculate every possible scenario. There is a question as to whether a machine which brute forces every possible combination can be considered "intelligent".

Many of the gains in the AI industry have come from moore's law and the number of transistors etched in a silicon chip roughly doubling every 24 months. There is a considerable question mark as to whether a machine which utilizes brute force logic could ever fulfill the job of a police officer, fireman or role which requires considerably more critical thought and computational power than a simple game of chess.
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November 23, 2017, 03:40:31 PM
#11
A robot can never replace humans. It is not possible. The robot can only perform mechanical work, but the algorithm of its work must be created by man. I believe that robots will replace people to carry out all physical work but intellectual work will only be performed people.
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November 23, 2017, 03:31:14 PM
#10
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Stop with all this robot stuff how about we enjoy our lives as they are now for the time being? Ya we all know robots will be integrated and transform the way we live our lives in the near future here, please lets enjoy now! Smiley
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November 23, 2017, 02:59:06 PM
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Protocols, nothing else.
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November 23, 2017, 02:58:46 PM
#8
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Police officers and doctors require a level of dexterity that robots cannot replicate, and doctors, lawyers and police officers require a level of conscious decision making that is unlikely for computers to be able to replicate. Lawyers create arguments based on abstract concepts, so even if a computer can learn legal precedent, it doesn't seem likely they can adapt and create novel legal arguments required to inform new areas of the law. Much of the law in the US is determined by case law, not legislative law, so it's just not likely robots will ever acquire the ability or be granted the authority to have input on such crucial items. If robots could learn to be a suitable lawyer, doctor or police officer, we would be living in a world where we are subservient to robots.
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November 23, 2017, 12:55:46 PM
#7
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.



Yeah surely but they can’t replace the human completely. I mean when it will come to making moves, operations or thinking about something then it won’t be limiting factor for robots at all and I agree on it completely. But here is huge difference between robots and us, we can reproduce the human being but not robots can’t and they will never ever do that no matter what how giant leaps we take to develop these machines.

Reminds me all the judgment day and stuff where the machine or smart algorithm decides the fate of humanity by killing it, because it think that we are destroying the world and this is why they can just destroy but can’t reproduce.

What I mean by that? Well it’s just algorithm and but with limits and lots of limits.
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November 23, 2017, 12:50:29 PM
#6
We only shifting the simple work to robots and create on other places new.
There will be still stuff to do which a robot will not able to do it. But not in 50 years.
Read the book Homo Sapiens. This guy write it just how it would be in 2050 and above.

Everything works with algorithms. Even a Police officer, lawyer or Doctor could be replaced by a machine.


Machines are replacing people that is correct, but it is going to be impossible for them to do every single thing that a human can, at least not now and not even in the future, besides we have used machines to enhance our own performance so unless a machine is that much better than us then the future you are predicting is not going to happen since a human plus a machine is a better option than just a robot.
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