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legendary
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Few questions for the followers of Trump:

Which do you think is more important to national security, a POTUS getting head in the Oval Office, or a possibly illegitimate POTUS?

Before you answer, remember, the investigation on Lewinski, which went on for years,  was totally appropriate and necessary, yes? The public thought so, Dems gained 5 seats that midterm. Crazy huh?

So why wouldn't an act of war by a foreign state be more important than a dude getting head?

So if we shouldn't investigate Russian interference, why did a Republican led Congress spend years trying to impeach The Bill?

And sweet Jesus, for the last time, y'all do know that the intelligence community, and the military, are overwhelmingly conservative voters.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/26/poll-shows-drop-in-conservative-military-officers/

See how much I love y'all? I cited the Dailly Caller.

Results from a new poll show that the traditionally conservative political leanings in the military’s officer corps has taken a slight drop.

The poll, conducted by the National Defense University, surveyed 500 active-duty officers and West Point cadets. While those identifying as conservative took a clear majority, the results suggest the first shift in the officer corps’ political ideology in decades...

Fifty-four percent of officers identified as Republicans, while twenty-four percent said they were Democrats, with fourteen percent identified as independents. Surprisingly, the numbers associated with party identification did not line up with ideology. Only forty-seven percent of those polled considered themselves conservative, 32 percent said they were moderate, while 22 percent identified as liberal. Previous surveys have shown as many as 65 percent of officers identifying as conservatives.

The poll also showed that officers are politically active, specifically on social media. Seventy-five percent of those surveyed said they have seen fellow officers share political articles or promote politically charged views posted by other individuals.


The intelligency agencies are all executive functions. Trump also just increased military spending at the expense of the rest of everything.

 Why the fuck would they be helping Hillary?

Breitbart lied. Sad
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It seems to me that all the talk about Russian participation in American elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for selecting such an idiot like Trump President on the Russian. Americans do not want to recognize among them many people who voted for him.

Actually it is a pathetic excuse to hide the real reasons behind Hillary's defeat. Democrat leaders want to claim that their nominee lost because of hacking, and not because of her dishonest nature. Also, the irritating questions about Sanders' loss in the primary reappears very frequently nowadays.

In the end, there has to be a level of faith and a level of a certain mindset that says, "If there was tampering and it never is caught, there is nothing I can do". 
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It seems to me that all the talk about Russian participation in American elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for selecting such an idiot like Trump President on the Russian. Americans do not want to recognize among them many people who voted for him.

Actually it is a pathetic excuse to hide the real reasons behind Hillary's defeat. Democrat leaders want to claim that their nominee lost because of hacking, and not because of her dishonest nature. Also, the irritating questions about Sanders' loss in the primary reappears very frequently nowadays.

That's the obvious part...

Hillary raised over a $Billion during her campaign... and just made a huge bonfire with all those donations

Hillary burned through over $1,000,000,000 while she dropped in the polls... she spent more money than any campaign in history... and lost (very abnormal... typically whoever spends the most wins)

Hillary is likely to be murdered by those who donated large amounts of money, if she can't come up with a good reason she lost which doesn't blame herself directly
legendary
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It seems to me that all the talk about Russian participation in American elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for selecting such an idiot like Trump President on the Russian. Americans do not want to recognize among them many people who voted for him.

Actually it is a pathetic excuse to hide the real reasons behind Hillary's defeat. Democrat leaders want to claim that their nominee lost because of hacking, and not because of her dishonest nature. Also, the irritating questions about Sanders' loss in the primary reappears very frequently nowadays.
sr. member
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USA just have to admit that they've elected Trump by themselves and take the responsibility.

I fully agree with you!

It's like putting a 3 megatons of gunpowder at a village and then start crying about a villager who threw a cigarette at it.

Trump chose America.
America chose Trump.
That is pure love.
Pure love must not be broken.
Intelligence teams try to figure out a way to break the pure love,
but America should admit pure love can not be broken.

Regards,
Trump

Plus, there will always be those that claim there is tampering because in their mind the results can simply not be what they are, there is no way in their minds that the country made the choice that is displayed. 
True.
I must say though, that we, as republicans, took our loss way better at the previous elections..  Roll Eyes

Regards,
Trump
sr. member
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It seems to me that all the talk about Russian participation in American elections is an attempt to shift responsibility for selecting such an idiot like Trump President on the Russian. Americans do not want to recognize among them many people who voted for him.
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USA just have to admit that they've elected Trump by themselves and take the responsibility.

I fully agree with you!

It's like putting a 3 megatons of gunpowder at a village and then start crying about a villager who threw a cigarette at it.

Trump chose America.
America chose Trump.
That is pure love.
Pure love must not be broken.
Intelligence teams try to figure out a way to break the pure love,
but America should admit pure love can not be broken.

Regards,
Trump

Plus, there will always be those that claim there is tampering because in their mind the results can simply not be what they are, there is no way in their minds that the country made the choice that is displayed. 
sr. member
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The election process has such time demands on it also that make the process harder to secure.  The people demand that the results be made available that same night.  That means that the local precincts have to be a large part of the compilation and counting process.  That means 1000's, perhaps millions of individual counties and adjuncts reporting the results from those areas and all that being combined. 

The process is secured and administered the best that the country can do and still provide rapid results. There are just some things in life that will not change, no matter what people do.
newbie
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USA just have to admit that they've elected Trump by themselves and take the responsibility.

I fully agree with you!

It's like putting a 3 megatons of gunpowder at a village and then start crying about a villager who threw a cigarette at it.

Trump chose America.
America chose Trump.
That is pure love.
Pure love must not be broken.
Intelligence teams try to figure out a way to break the pure love,
but America should admit pure love can not be broken.

Regards,
Trump

I couldn't have said it better myself. The fly-over states elected Trump and the coastal states voted for Billary. They are upset that they didn't have the influence they thought they did over the fly-over states, so instead of admitting they are weak and ineffective and taking steps to change that.........Russia hacked the election.

Pretty sad really.
sr. member
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USA just have to admit that they've elected Trump by themselves and take the responsibility.

I fully agree with you!

It's like putting a 3 megatons of gunpowder at a village and then start crying about a villager who threw a cigarette at it.

Trump chose America.
America chose Trump.
That is pure love.
Pure love must not be broken.
Intelligence teams try to figure out a way to break the pure love,
but America should admit pure love can not be broken.

Regards,
Trump
sr. member
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It will be a major mistake. Elections using paper easiest to falsify. The election shall be by electronic means, but it is impossible to do via the Internet, voting machines cannot be connected to the Internet and more, will help to protect the voices. You only need to want to do it.
hero member
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The election process has such time demands on it also that make the process harder to secure.  The people demand that the results be made available that same night.  That means that the local precincts have to be a large part of the compilation and counting process.  That means 1000's, perhaps millions of individual counties and adjuncts reporting the results from those areas and all that being combined. 
hero member
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The fact is that the election process is far too large and too spread out for the common citizen to out right "know" that there is nothing happening behind the scenes. This is made more intense by the anonymous voting process.  Looking at election results, there is no way for someone that voted for candidate A to say, "My vote was counted wrong". 
sr. member
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Most of these agencies are irrelevant and they should just stop with all these investigations, i thought they said the Russians hacked the election by hacking the DNC and airing their dirty laundry in the public, but hacking the election machines is not possible at all.
I am opposed to deny anyone the investigation into interference in the internal Affairs of States. It concerns the security of the country and any information is important, but only want the facts. I see nothing but wild assumptions.
hero member
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I see this as basically a confirmation that Russia is superior to US or else these calibre of leaders are just making fun of themselves all because they don't want to move on over the loss of Hillary in as as much I am not a fan of the current president but the issue is if they are able to prove that Russia indeed hacked the election, then its slap on US that proves itself to be the most powerful country in the world to be vulnerable to something as sensitive as the election.
sr. member
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Most of these agencies are irrelevant and they should just stop with all these investigations, i thought they said the Russians hacked the election by hacking the DNC and airing their dirty laundry in the public, but hacking the election machines is not possible at all.
sr. member
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Then you have to define the term "hacking". The voting machines were not connected to the internet, and the only possible way to hack them is to do it manually for each of the machines. Do you think that it is possible?
I'm not a supporter of Trump and Russia, but the scenario of Russian hackers hacking of voting machines seems unlikely. Probably the Americans were not ready for information warfare and swallowed as bait Trump candidacy.
full member
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USA just have to admit that they've elected Trump by themselves and take the responsibility.
hero member
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I laugh every time I hear this...

Am I the only person who wondered...
We have 17 intelligence agencies?
Who are they?

Let's start with the possibly relevant agencies:
1) FBI
2) NSA
3) CIA

Now for the non-relevant agencies:
4) Office of the Director of National Intelligence
5) Defense Intelligence Agency
6) Office of Intelligence and Analysis
7) Bureau of Intelligence and Research
8] Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (Dept of Treasury)
9) National Reconnaissance Office
10) National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
11) Military Intelligence Corps (Army)
12) Office of Naval Intelligence (Navy)
13) Twenty-Fifth Air Force (Air Force)
14) Marine Corps Intelligence (Marine Corps)
15) Coast Guard Intelligence (Coast Guard)
16) Office of National Security Intelligence (DEA)
17) Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence (Dept of Energy)


I mean... who are they kidding?

How/Why would the DEA have information regarding Russia hacking into the DNC emails?
How would any but 2-3 of these agencies have that type of info?

Why not just say "all our intelligence agencies agree?" or "all relevant agencies agree"?

Why mention 17 of them when 90%+ have no input on the topic?

Why lie and say that the DEA, etc agrees with the conclusion that it was Russia when they couldn't possibly have such information?

To make it seem more legitimate, perhaps 
sr. member
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Actually each intelligence agency has at least 6 factions with differing opinions, so it isn't clear if the entirety of the 17 agencies, or at least 1/6th of each agrees with whatever it is.

Anybody who remembers Philip Agees book about helping other countries with the subtleties of elections can't be too offended.

At the end of the day though all that matters is how the day ends. If Hillary had gotten elected Americans would be scratching out their ears every time she whinnied. Trump is at least worth watching. There is always the chance that if you listen to him speak you will say "wow".
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