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Mods can we lock this topic now? The bitcoin conference is long over.

Discussion can move to another thread.

I have never seen mods locking other people’s topics. Have you seen it before? I have seen them deleting spam messages and topics though.

People can continue to post in this topic for the next 10 years unless the OP locks it himself. Mods can’t do anything about it.
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Mods can we lock this topic now? The bitcoin conference is long over.

Discussion can move to another thread.
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I can't confirm that Trump is really interested in bitcoin and cryptocurrency, maybe he is just trying to convince us to vote for him.
No body can confirm that unless Trump gets elected as the president of the America. I'm pretty sure if he gets elected as president then he'll keep up his promises because if he somehow tries to take U-turns after getting elected then consider that as the end of his political career.

When compare to Kamala, I still believe that Trump is the one who may do something good for crypto community and with that belief I hope that Trump may get more votes than Kamala and win the elections. I must say that if he might take U-turns then we should get a lesson that never trust a politicians promises.

He will say anything, do anything, and go along with anything right now in order to get elected and save his own ass. He dont care about you or Crypto/Bitcoin. Could care less. Vivek whispered in his ear how to get more votes and to support the crypto community. You think he'll care afterwards? NOT.

The election is not over yet and no one can predict the future, including you. You are no different than us, just making predictions about what you think will happen so don't make any claims here. Trump may or may not keep his promise, no one knows. But Harris will certainly continue the same crypto crackdown policy as Biden did. That means if we vote for Trump, we still have a chance because no one knows what he will do after he is elected. Meanwhile, if we vote for Harris, it means we will accept more repression.

Any politician is willing to say anything to achieve his goals, everyone knows that, people are not as naive as you think. But do we have a better choice? We only have two candidates, why don't we vote for the one who will give us a chance instead of the one who will surely continue to hold us back?
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No shock here, it would have been insane for her to even appear at this event given her administrative for the past few years has aggressively pursed against Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
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I can't confirm that Trump is really interested in bitcoin and cryptocurrency, maybe he is just trying to convince us to vote for him.
No body can confirm that unless Trump gets elected as the president of the America. I'm pretty sure if he gets elected as president then he'll keep up his promises because if he somehow tries to take U-turns after getting elected then consider that as the end of his political career.

When compare to Kamala, I still believe that Trump is the one who may do something good for crypto community and with that belief I hope that Trump may get more votes than Kamala and win the elections. I must say that if he might take U-turns then we should get a lesson that never trust a politicians promises.

He will say anything, do anything, and go along with anything right now in order to get elected and save his own ass. He dont care about you or Crypto/Bitcoin. Could care less. Vivek whispered in his ear how to get more votes and to support the crypto community. You think he'll care afterwards? NOT.
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Kamala Harris just want to avoid unnecessary damage for her support before the election. She will choose events where she can show her strength, not weakness. In Bitcoin Conference, Kamala actually does not have good opportunity to deliver convincing speech and she will like fail against Donald Trump.

Smelling this risk is enough for Kamala to stay away from Bitcoin Conference this year because should never join it and say things oppositely to what she did previously months before taking over the nominee position from Joe Biden.

I am honestly bored of the Trump and Bitcoin talk, but I can also admit that the Biden administration with Kamala Harris as vice has been anti-bitcoin for the most part of it.
It's another reason Kamala should not join the conference, at least don't join it will help her to avoid additional damage on her election program for very last months before the election. She accept to give up this conference and only can hope that Trump won't successfully convince many participants there, but it's less likely Trump will fail with his speech ability.

I actually agree with this. I honestly think that she is low key pro-bitcoin. For her to campaign on it and shout it from the rooftops right now would cause division within the party before she gets elected and she would be stirring the pot. Dont forget, she is the VICE president and their main duty is to push and back the agenda of the President, not have her own. I think Biden hisself has no freakin clue and lets Warren and Waters and the rest of them within his administration go rogue. Which has been an obvious mistake. I also say this cause the man is 82 years old, doesnt hisself understand bitcoin and has become a pushover. Harris is pro innovation but imagine what would happen inside of her party if she campaigned on it now. She needs all the unity and energy she can get right now from her party. A risk I wouldnt take if I was in her shoes. She has the energy and attention span to deal with it after the election.
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I don't care about how much money they raise from cryptocurrency, I only care about how many Americans are actually involved in cryptocurrency and the impact it has on the presidential election. Personally, I am also skeptical about this number , I do not believe that there are so many US citizens participating in cryptocurrency. I also tried to take the time to learn more and another result came from the FED survey, and according to the FED, only 18M people are investing in cryptocurrency.
If it is just from a survey then most likely there are more numbers than people want to let on. People who are associated with crypto values their privacy and are also aware of possible dangers of having a lot of people know you own crypto especially when it comes to the government. So a lot of people might have lied about whether they know or use crypto.
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This number would be more relevant and as I said before, cryptocurrency is not a key or important factor in this election . But any candidate who knows how to take advantage of this small number of votes will help them increase their chances of winning .
I think even with the not so accurate numbers, crypto community is large enough to be considered by politicians as an important demographic. Many crypto enthusiasts or at least the ones I have seen seem to base their decision on how crypto friendly a candidate is. It will be smart for politicians to go for crypto users but crypto users should not believe these politicians too much.
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You guys did kamala dirty, how do you expect her to come out and say anything about Bitcoin? Can you give statement on something you don't understand? So that you can take it all on her? So that you can end up turning her into a laughing stock?  Grin Grin Grin

Now that she missed this, some will surely drag her but I bet if she reason that supporting crypto community is the way, she will go back and do some digging just to have something to say maybe when a next opportunity arise.

Forget about Harris herself, what these fanatical Trump supporters are bent on doing is making 55% of the USA hate Bitcoin by associated it with Donald Trump.

Bitcoin has done quite well in the USA, and while there are mixed feelings about it, most people don't out and out hate crypto.

But these people are trying to tell every American:

Bitcoin == Donald_Trump

This is a terrible, terrible thing for the business.

Anybody interested the business of Bitcoin, and getting the price of Bitcoin to go up in price will do what real businesses do which is lobby both sides of US politics to get things done.

The people here complaining about Biden, Harris and other personalities are not interested in Bitcoin, they just want Trump to get elected because they love Trump and use this forum as an advertisement for their preferred candidate.

People who are serious about crypto talk about policies and not people and parties.



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You guys did kamala dirty, how do you expect her to come out and say anything about Bitcoin? Can you give statement on something you don't understand? So that you can take it all on her? So that you can end up turning her into a laughing stock?  Grin Grin Grin

Now that she missed this, some will surely drag her but I bet if she reason that supporting crypto community is the way, she will go back and do some digging just to have something to say maybe when a next opportunity arise.
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Trump will raise taxes on every American if he is elected:

TPC: Trump Tariffs Would Raise Household Taxes And Slow Imports

High taxes and trade wars are bad for Bitcoin.

Trump's plan to make abortion illegal in the USA will cause the US to create a new police state that will crack down on things like crypto, because millions of women in the US have abortions every year, and stopping them will be an effort similar--but much larger--than the old "war on drugs" that expanding the US police state immensely.

Police states are bad for Bitcoin.

Trump will deport 11 million people from the USA the minute he gets into office which will severely disrupt the US economy, and require, once again, a massive new police state the likes of which the US has never seen. To deport this many people, Trump will need to hire hundreds of thousand of new police across the USA, and he will severely weaken major US industries like construction, entertainment and hospitality, causing trillions of dollars in lost business.

Massive economic disruption is bad for Bitcoin.

Trump is now getting into the crypto business himself personally. In his first term he ordered the federal government to select his own businesses to patronize over less expensive options in order to funnel millions to himself. By taking over the crypto business in the US, Trump has figured out how to turn those millions into billions. As president he could very easily effectively outlaw Bitcoin and favor his own currency instead. Nobody in the crypto business would be safe from Trump if he is elected: if you make money, his business is going to want to take it, and he will have the US government on his side.

The US president corruptly taking over the crypto business for himself personally is bad for Bitcoin.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. The ETFs were approved under president Biden. There is no reason to make massive changes to the US economy and lifestyle, which is what Trump proposes.


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Good for her that she isn't showing up, if not she would have created a big shame that will forever be in history, what did she know about Bitcoin anyway? She will say many wrong things, only someone who understand crypto and Bitcoin can publicly say something about them, she is just craving for attention to get voted for, its all part of a plan until she made it to the presidential sit and back bite on Bitcoin, she thus look and act like someone who will betray Bitcoin community later, trust me.
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I don't understand the importance of the president of a county in terms of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin doesn't care about borders, it works anywhere.

It doesn't matter if some president like Bitcoin or not, a new block will be found in about ten minutes anyway...

As long as there are two people ready to send and receive Bitcoin, the transaction will happen.

No intermediaries needed, no presidents opinion needed.

The people you see here lying about the Democrats being against crypto are... Republicans who want abortion to be illegal in the US, not crypto advocates.

They are just using crypto as an excuse to pump their favorite candidate, Trump. Trump could be in favor of outlawing Bitcoin (and he very well might since he is competing with Bitcoin now), and these people would still want him elected because they think there is "baby murder" happening in the USA.

Bitcoin is legal in the USA and has done extremely well here. There is no reason to worry about US partisan politics--but those wanting their party to get elected will come here anyhow and advertise their party and make up lies about the opposition. But it has nothing to do with Bitcoin.



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I don't understand the importance of the president of a county in terms of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin doesn't care about borders, it works anywhere.

It doesn't matter if some president like Bitcoin or not, a new block will be found in about ten minutes anyway...

As long as there are two people ready to send and receive Bitcoin, the transaction will happen.

No intermediaries needed, no presidents opinion needed.
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That graphic is both wrong (no chance its 52M) and misleading: almost all of the money raised is from a few billionaire Bitcoin whales.

There's probably about 50 votes in the USA that will be swayed by crypto policy (and keep in mind that Harris will be better for Bitcoin than Trump would be).

These politicians are after the money, not the votes.

https://www.citationneeded.news/when-did-cryptocurrency-become-a-voter-issue/



I don't care about how much money they raise from cryptocurrency, I only care about how many Americans are actually involved in cryptocurrency and the impact it has on the presidential election. Personally, I am also skeptical about this number , I do not believe that there are so many US citizens participating in cryptocurrency. I also tried to take the time to learn more and another result came from the FED survey, and according to the FED, only 18M people are investing in cryptocurrency. This number would be more relevant and as I said before, cryptocurrency is not a key or important factor in this election . But any candidate who knows how to take advantage of this small number of votes will help them increase their chances of winning .


https://cointelegraph.com/news/american-adult-crypto-use-dropped-2023-fed-survey
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I can't confirm that Trump is really interested in bitcoin and cryptocurrency, maybe he is just trying to convince us to vote for him.
No body can confirm that unless Trump gets elected as the president of the America. I'm pretty sure if he gets elected as president then he'll keep up his promises because if he somehow tries to take U-turns after getting elected then consider that as the end of his political career.

When compare to Kamala, I still believe that Trump is the one who may do something good for crypto community and with that belief I hope that Trump may get more votes than Kamala and win the elections. I must say that if he might take U-turns then we should get a lesson that never trust a politicians promises.

People will just speculate about things that might possible to happen. Although there are certain judgement towards Trump's intention since people know that he is also said something negative about bitcoin before.

But he is the only one who could provide something good results as he is the one showing some good moral support to the people who are into crypto industry. We just hope that there's really a change of heart and Trump will be true to his words since somehow there might be some good changes to happen especially he promise that America will became a bitcoin friendly nation under his term. We can't see this to happen on Kamala's term since he's party or Biden itself is truly a anti bitcoin so provably we could see the same approach if she became the new president in US.

what are you a forgetful  person?

 trump passed the worst fucking usa  law ever passed against all crypto on dec 31 2017 and the entire market tanked.

under biden btc had three ath's 2 in 2021 and 1 in 2024

And trump good Harris bad. duh

I wish I could make every post in every thread that every person picking trump as good for btc. must type

Trump wrote or signed into effect a terrible law dec 2017 which helped to  begin the 2018 crash and still affects every single crypto coin trade made in America. Since Jan 1 2018


every fucking single trade has a reporting duty and that my friends is directly the fault of Trump signing the bill against all like trades except real estate (oh his primary business)

rant over.

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Well, in these instances, it seems like Trump is really using all the bitcoin or crypto community in his campaigns because he knows that bitcoin really cannot be stopped in the future. We are not sure if this is just for personal interest because they are still in the campaign period for the coming election in the US.

But even so, Trump really has the advantage right now because of the promises he is making about Bitcoin, as long as I just pray that he will fulfill at least 40% or more of his plans about Bitcoin and other top altcoins on the market.

There is no doubt that this is definitely for personal gain and that is the nature of politicians. But at least we have a small chance if Trump is elected over Harris because we all know she is a member of the current administration and they are not friendly to us.

We can vote for him and we can hope that he has really changed his views on bitcoin and cryptocurrency, but let's not put too much faith in what he says. Because as president, he needs to introduce policies that benefit their economy and country. If it doesn't bring great benefits to the economy, they will never do it. Trump has promised a lot but to be honest, I find most of it exaggerated and not easy to implement.
We just need him to be more open with us, we should not expect him to focus most of his time on promoting the development of the cryptocurrency industry, cryptocurrency is not a key industry in their economics.
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That graphic is both wrong (no chance its 52M) and misleading: almost all of the money raised is from a few billionaire Bitcoin whales.

There's probably about 50 votes in the USA that will be swayed by crypto policy (and keep in mind that Harris will be better for Bitcoin than Trump would be).

These politicians are after the money, not the votes.

https://www.citationneeded.news/when-did-cryptocurrency-become-a-voter-issue/

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I can't confirm that Trump is really interested in bitcoin and cryptocurrency, maybe he is just trying to convince us to vote for him.
No body can confirm that unless Trump gets elected as the president of the America. I'm pretty sure if he gets elected as president then he'll keep up his promises because if he somehow tries to take U-turns after getting elected then consider that as the end of his political career.

When compare to Kamala, I still believe that Trump is the one who may do something good for crypto community and with that belief I hope that Trump may get more votes than Kamala and win the elections. I must say that if he might take U-turns then we should get a lesson that never trust a politicians promises.

People will just speculate about things that might possible to happen. Although there are certain judgement towards Trump's intention since people know that he is also said something negative about bitcoin before.

But he is the only one who could provide something good results as he is the one showing some good moral support to the people who are into crypto industry. We just hope that there's really a change of heart and Trump will be true to his words since somehow there might be some good changes to happen especially he promise that America will became a bitcoin friendly nation under his term. We can't see this to happen on Kamala's term since he's party or Biden itself is truly a anti bitcoin so provably we could see the same approach if she became the new president in US.
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I am honestly bored of the Trump and Bitcoin talk, but I can also admit that the Biden administration with Kamala Harris as vice has been anti-bitcoin for the most part of it. There has been to many policies designed to frustrate bitcoin mining, privacy and decentralization. It would have been an ironic surprise for her to speak at a bitcoin conference.

The 4 years of Trump was better than the last 4 years but was also not exactly pro-bitcoin. Leaving nothing to suggest that he will push the network forward if he wins.

- Jay -

Not only our forum, topics about Trump and bitcoin are flooding social networks, especially X, the social network where the majority of users are cryptocurrency investors.

Indeed, we have no guarantee that Trump will push the network forward if he is elected, but as you also acknowledge, the Biden administration is anti-bitcoin and Kamala Harris may maintain that position. The topic of Trump may become boring but clearly supporting him can create new opportunities for us beyond what the current administration is creating.

This is a big conference, the attendees are mostly strong bitcoin supporters, so let's wait and see what Trump will say and how people will react to it.

Well, in these instances, it seems like Trump is really using all the bitcoin or crypto community in his campaigns because he knows that bitcoin really cannot be stopped in the future. We are not sure if this is just for personal interest because they are still in the campaign period for the coming election in the US.

But even so, Trump really has the advantage right now because of the promises he is making about Bitcoin, as long as I just pray that he will fulfill at least 40% or more of his plans about Bitcoin and other top altcoins on the market.
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I think that Trump is trying to get votes from crypto enthusiasts. To be honest, I think it isn't worth the effort to work on crypto audience votes because their number is tiny and it's 50/50 whether crypto holders will really vote for Trump for his crypto vision or not.


Not only Trump but even the Democratic Party has created a campaign called Crypto4Harris with the aim of attracting cryptocurrency voters to support their candidate. Both are trying to win the votes of crypto enthusiasts, they want to capitalize on each vote as it can also change the electoral landscape.

I don't know if this information is true but according to a Coinbase survey, they say that there are 52 million people in the United States who own cryptocurrency. If that is true, it is not a small number and Trump would not be wrong to focus on winning votes from this group of voters.



https://x.com/coinbase/status/1752675229447458871
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