Topic: All ICO driven altcoins will drop to zero in the longterm. Just by logic. (Read 517 times)
February 22, 2019, 01:24:08 PM
Not all altcoins with roots from ICOs will go down. There are few active projects which I think will stand strong. But I agree with you, countless will drop to zero and just fizzle out like an old lady's fart
February 22, 2019, 01:14:16 PM
If we think rationally, we can easily reach the conclusion that this situation will occur. There are so many projects that have been created in today's market and in the past few years, and the probability of survival and valorisation of all these projects is almost negligible. There are so many projects that create the same goal, same target and same sector, so that only one of these projects will continue to exist or completely removed from the market depending on the sector. Therefore, we should make a careful choice in making such investments and not include these options in our long-term investments.
February 22, 2019, 12:48:45 PM
1) Because they are not securities. You don´t own any shares of the companies. You don`t get any dividends from their gains in the future (if any of them has the capability to earn FIAT money in the future).
You have not heard of something they called a hodlers program? Where investors get rewarded in BTC or alts just by keeping their coins or tokens in a particular wallet.
February 22, 2019, 12:36:20 PM
Indeed, many projects are either very similar to each other, or empty and meaningless. But the really demanded ICO, built on the latest technologies, will bring not only benefits for society, but also good profits.
February 13, 2019, 07:27:59 PM
An ICO that drops flat to zero s definitely a big scam that never got into the market in the first place. No matter how bad an ICO does, without a product or use case, and it gets into the market, it should be even at the leat price, not completely zero.
Good projects never die no matter how bad market circumstances affect to their development. Price falls to zero in case of dead liquidity and i have heard about one project which CEO passed away. February 13, 2019, 07:23:53 PM
An ICO that drops flat to zero s definitely a big scam that never got into the market in the first place. No matter how bad an ICO does, without a product or use case, and it gets into the market, it should be even at the leat price, not completely zero.
February 06, 2019, 08:26:22 PM
It´s completely clear that all Coins/Tokens will be valued zero. Why?
1) Because they are not securities. You don´t own any shares of the companies. You don`t get any dividends from their gains in the future (if any of them has the capability to earn FIAT money in the future).
2) ICO ... Initial Coin Offering, it´s just an other form of crowd funding. What´s the main problem with this approach? You finance the companies business operations. They must sell their tokens to sustain running their business. Or do you think they earn money other than in cryptocurrency? No, they don´t. It will last until all tokens are sold, then this companies are down and out. Simple. You sit on worthless tokens. Scams are just the rapid version of this process. Would ever a venture capital company invest FIAT into their business? Zero price is inevitable.
3) Point 1 and 2 are not clear for many users here ... It´s a big pump and dump scheme. Greater fools theory, not more not less.
Now I want to hear your opinions. We don´t talk about Bitcoin here, just about altcoins.
1. They're not securies - so what? Amazon vouchers are also not securities but their price is stable.1) Because they are not securities. You don´t own any shares of the companies. You don`t get any dividends from their gains in the future (if any of them has the capability to earn FIAT money in the future).
2) ICO ... Initial Coin Offering, it´s just an other form of crowd funding. What´s the main problem with this approach? You finance the companies business operations. They must sell their tokens to sustain running their business. Or do you think they earn money other than in cryptocurrency? No, they don´t. It will last until all tokens are sold, then this companies are down and out. Simple. You sit on worthless tokens. Scams are just the rapid version of this process. Would ever a venture capital company invest FIAT into their business? Zero price is inevitable.
3) Point 1 and 2 are not clear for many users here ... It´s a big pump and dump scheme. Greater fools theory, not more not less.
Now I want to hear your opinions. We don´t talk about Bitcoin here, just about altcoins.
2. These companies are not just sustained via dumping on you, they're ALL building products that can potentially make money (otherwise investing in them is stupid).
3. Apparently point 1 and 2 are not clear to you either.
February 06, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
I tend to disagree. Just because there was an ICO won't lead to these altcoins dropping to zero. If the altcoin is backed by demanding utility, it will definitely survive the test of time.
Definitely. Not all ICO-driven projects will be valued to zero. I have seen few promising projects that have real working product already. And they have solid partnerships. I think the OP is frustrated enough with all these ICO scammers but I still believe that there are good ones that will emerge from this market.
February 06, 2019, 07:54:22 PM
It´s completely clear that all Coins/Tokens will be valued zero. Why?
1) Because they are not securities. You don´t own any shares of the companies. You don`t get any dividends from their gains in the future (if any of them has the capability to earn FIAT money in the future).
2) ICO ... Initial Coin Offering, it´s just an other form of crowd funding. What´s the main problem with this approach? You finance the companies business operations. They must sell their tokens to sustain running their business. Or do you think they earn money other than in cryptocurrency? No, they don´t. It will last until all tokens are sold, then this companies are down and out. Simple. You sit on worthless tokens. Scams are just the rapid version of this process. Would ever a venture capital company invest FIAT into their business? Zero price is inevitable.
3) Point 1 and 2 are not clear for many users here ... It´s a big pump and dump scheme. Greater fools theory, not more not less.
Now I want to hear your opinions. We don´t talk about Bitcoin here, just about altcoins.
I very much agree with you. Even if it doesn't return to zero completely, it will be something way close to it. Even considering the way some of the tokens have performed badly, hitting zero or a worthless value in 2 years is inevitable. 1) Because they are not securities. You don´t own any shares of the companies. You don`t get any dividends from their gains in the future (if any of them has the capability to earn FIAT money in the future).
2) ICO ... Initial Coin Offering, it´s just an other form of crowd funding. What´s the main problem with this approach? You finance the companies business operations. They must sell their tokens to sustain running their business. Or do you think they earn money other than in cryptocurrency? No, they don´t. It will last until all tokens are sold, then this companies are down and out. Simple. You sit on worthless tokens. Scams are just the rapid version of this process. Would ever a venture capital company invest FIAT into their business? Zero price is inevitable.
3) Point 1 and 2 are not clear for many users here ... It´s a big pump and dump scheme. Greater fools theory, not more not less.
Now I want to hear your opinions. We don´t talk about Bitcoin here, just about altcoins.
February 06, 2019, 07:18:09 PM
I don't think that the ICO-driven altcoin will return to zero, maybe only some of them don't have a future. But a coin that has potential will be far better and possess a future.
Indeed, it cannot be denied that not all ICO tokens will end at zero valued, but the fact that most of them after listing in the exchange price are always undervalued. And if this continues, I am sure the future of ICO will no longer exist. February 06, 2019, 06:35:19 PM
Most undoubtedly significantly fall in price, but some coins even feel very good today.
February 06, 2019, 05:15:34 PM
It´s completely clear that all Coins/Tokens will be valued zero. Why?
1) Because they are not securities. You don´t own any shares of the companies. You don`t get any dividends from their gains in the future (if any of them has the capability to earn FIAT money in the future).
2) ICO ... Initial Coin Offering, it´s just an other form of crowd funding. What´s the main problem with this approach? You finance the companies business operations. They must sell their tokens to sustain running their business. Or do you think they earn money other than in cryptocurrency? No, they don´t. It will last until all tokens are sold, then this companies are down and out. Simple. You sit on worthless tokens. Scams are just the rapid version of this process. Would ever a venture capital company invest FIAT into their business? Zero price is inevitable.
3) Point 1 and 2 are not clear for many users here ... It´s a big pump and dump scheme. Greater fools theory, not more not less.
Now I want to hear your opinions. We don´t talk about Bitcoin here, just about altcoins.
I find that very interesting, what you write and the more i think about it, you seem to be right. Nevertheless, i think that will not apply to all tokens. Some tokens are there to be used on certain web pages, e.g. to rent a car or similar. Hopefully, these tokens will always hold a certain value. 1) Because they are not securities. You don´t own any shares of the companies. You don`t get any dividends from their gains in the future (if any of them has the capability to earn FIAT money in the future).
2) ICO ... Initial Coin Offering, it´s just an other form of crowd funding. What´s the main problem with this approach? You finance the companies business operations. They must sell their tokens to sustain running their business. Or do you think they earn money other than in cryptocurrency? No, they don´t. It will last until all tokens are sold, then this companies are down and out. Simple. You sit on worthless tokens. Scams are just the rapid version of this process. Would ever a venture capital company invest FIAT into their business? Zero price is inevitable.
3) Point 1 and 2 are not clear for many users here ... It´s a big pump and dump scheme. Greater fools theory, not more not less.
Now I want to hear your opinions. We don´t talk about Bitcoin here, just about altcoins.
February 06, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
For ICO projects, no promotions are needed. In cryptocurrency, there is a completely different form of existence. In the course of ICO, tokens are issued, and securities are not needed to tokens. The tokens in the ICO have also recommended themselves well, so you should not change anything here. Soon, some reformers are ready to return from the cryptocurrency back to the normal stock market. We do not need it.
if it refers to cryptocurrency as securities, then it is likely that the future of tokens is quite promising, if their projects are in demand in society, then the value of these coins will be quite satisfactory. But what if the coins lose their relevance over time, even though the project will work without loss? February 06, 2019, 03:06:33 PM
For ICO projects, no promotions are needed. In cryptocurrency, there is a completely different form of existence. In the course of ICO, tokens are issued, and securities are not needed to tokens. The tokens in the ICO have also recommended themselves well, so you should not change anything here. Soon, some reformers are ready to return from the cryptocurrency back to the normal stock market. We do not need it.
February 06, 2019, 04:47:13 AM
I don't think that the ICO-driven altcoin will return to zero, maybe only some of them don't have a future. But a coin that has potential will be far better and possess a future.
February 06, 2019, 04:31:19 AM
I dont think so all altcoin will going to zero, last year in 2018 all altcoin dumped hard because in previous year the price was going up to high. In 2017 alot of altcoin was going up 50 to 100 times less than 1 years so in 2018 many investor and trader take profit. Blockchain and cryptocurrency was adoptep in many different industry and already give many benefits so with more adoption the demand will increase later.
February 06, 2019, 04:21:25 AM
Not all projects will slide to zero, because there are many worthy projects that have a promising product behind their backs!
February 06, 2019, 04:07:16 AM
I get your point. As time goes by really seeing this spouting nonsense tokens in the market, they are as if no use in blockchain technology already. But incase for Ethereum and bitcoin they still have the worth like a fiat money.
February 05, 2019, 05:16:59 PM
I tend to disagree. Just because there was an ICO won't lead to these altcoins dropping to zero. If the altcoin is backed by demanding utility, it will definitely survive the test of time.
February 05, 2019, 04:56:41 PM
The goal of every altcoin/token that started in an ICO is to be used as a utility coin. There is a need for it, its not obvious but it will be clearer in the future. Some will die because the use case is still uneconomical or further from maturity as an ecosystem.
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