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Quote from: stellar69 on January 27, 2015, 05:45:04 AM

Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

how do i know which ones are legit. like how do i know they don't have software where inside user's can see my cards.

i play right now on betcoin, and nitrogen because they have reputable sports books that make a ton of money and wouldn't want to risk that over a poker scandal.

obviously sealswithclubs is fine. enough said there.

but then all these new ones coming up. how can i i know if it's safe to deposit my btc in into them?

You cannot verify that which one is a legit site. To be more secure you can just play on trusted sites and you are already doing that.
The problem of others seeing your card is not as dangerous as people grouping together with each other on a single table and targeting you. This happens many many times in online poker.
My call: Stay away from online poker

Hey stellar69!

It is funny to look at your signature while reading your advice

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

how do i know which ones are legit. like how do i know they don't have software where inside user's can see my cards.

Hard to know right away if a site is legit unless its technically proven, with p2p poker you have to watch for cheats. You can always play heads up which avoids collusion. Look for sites with reputation.

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Since poker sites need a decent size of community in order to be successful, it's really hard for new sites to start out anyways so i can't see mass poker sites starting and actually being used. In general, there are some scripts that are approved by highly trusted third parties, but these are annoying to use for the operator, because the operator can't update those to improve them. In general, I would only try a new site if they have something new and original to offer, because otherwise the risk is bigger than the reward in my opinion. Also the more popular poker sites will be enjoyable to play since it takes less time to get into a table etc.

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

how do i know which ones are legit. like how do i know they don't have software where inside user's can see my cards.

i play right now on betcoin, and nitrogen because they have reputable sports books that make a ton of money and wouldn't want to risk that over a poker scandal.

obviously sealswithclubs is fine. enough said there.

but then all these new ones coming up. how can i i know if it's safe to deposit my btc in into them?

You cannot verify that which one is a legit site. To be more secure you can just play on trusted sites and you are already doing that.
The problem of others seeing your card is not as dangerous as people grouping together with each other on a single table and targeting you. This happens many many times in online poker.
My call: Stay away from online poker

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if you are looking for another trusted poker site, you can try https://sealswithclubs.eu/

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It is the same for all other type of sites.
You can't easily tell if a new dice site or a new casino or a new exchange is legit or not. You shouldn't deposit serious money in it until they are established and you have enough trust in it.

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

but then all these new ones coming up. how can i i know if it's safe to deposit my btc in into them?

You can't. I'd say stick to the well known, proven good sites and wait a bit for feedback about these new sites.

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i stick to the old one's until the new one's build a rep. Play freerolls or low Bi tourneys there...but I wont advice you to put in high amount of cash.

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

how do i know which ones are legit. like how do i know they don't have software where inside user's can see my cards.

Your concerns are valid and I don't think there is a way to be sure, you pretty much have to trust the website and don't play if you don't.

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I actually have a question for people who have some experience using the Maven's software.
Does it allow you to modify the software, to be able to see the hands or allow a modification in the software to do so ?
I trust seals, but not a lot of other sites which go about using the software, and its best to know if its possible.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 26, 2015, 07:52:15 PM

if you trust sealswithclubs then youre already getting screwed. theres more collusion on there than anything.

please post hand histories to prove this.

SwC has and always will vigilantly bust collusion.

All reports are taking seriously in addition to automated tools looking for cheating. The giant SwC thread in this forum, by far the most viewed thread here, is a great place to go public with collusion. If it turns out to be real, you can be assured we take action.

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if you trust sealswithclubs then youre already getting screwed. theres more collusion on there than anything. least there was when i played there. plus cashouts there are anywhere from 3 hours to 24 hours.

far as any other "new" poker site as long as you can withdraw and deposit without waiting for more than 1 confirmation theres not much harm in trying them out. just dont go nuts putting 100 btc on them. play small stakes and have some fun

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Quote from: panju1 on January 26, 2015, 07:23:07 PM

Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

how do i know which ones are legit. like how do i know they don't have software where inside user's can see my cards.

i play right now on betcoin, and nitrogen because they have reputable sports books that make a ton of money and wouldn't want to risk that over a poker scandal.

obviously sealswithclubs is fine. enough said there.

but then all these new ones coming up. how can i i know if it's safe to deposit my btc in into them?

Just wait till an established offline casino comes out with an e-version.
Until then, you are just taking shots in the dark.

I think most of them claim to be one, but aren't . I know someone who actually happens to own a casino, and had got an online license for running it.
Would it be a good idea to ask them to launch a casino for bitcoin use ?

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

how do i know which ones are legit. like how do i know they don't have software where inside user's can see my cards.

i play right now on betcoin, and nitrogen because they have reputable sports books that make a ton of money and wouldn't want to risk that over a poker scandal.

obviously sealswithclubs is fine. enough said there.

but then all these new ones coming up. how can i i know if it's safe to deposit my btc in into them?

Just wait till an established offline casino comes out with an e-version.
Until then, you are just taking shots in the dark.

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 05:58:08 PM

Quote from: ajaxmoor on January 26, 2015, 05:56:43 PM

I think its risky to play cash games on these new sites. I find tournament poker to be good on most of these new sites.

how does the risk change from tournament to cash?

I am not sure, but its just from experience, I feel this way . I might be wrong though. Maybe people who write code can elaborate on what they think

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Quote from: ajaxmoor on January 26, 2015, 05:56:43 PM

I think its risky to play cash games on these new sites. I find tournament poker to be good on most of these new sites.

how does the risk change from tournament to cash?

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I think its risky to play cash games on these new sites. I find tournament poker to be good on most of these new sites.

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 05:38:53 PM

Quote from: magicmexican on January 26, 2015, 04:59:31 PM

Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

How can i i know if it's safe to deposit my btc in into them?

You cant.

Thats why i am staying away from BTC-poker. Even if the site itself is legit (has enough reputation that you can most likely exclude the existance of superusers) - it still very possible for them to have a weak security. In my opion, any site that is offereing poker for now is simply too small. The risk/reward ratio is not there... yet.

Yes, the players will be weaker and stuff - but personally i think you are being overconfident on how "site x woudnt risk it" and "x is obviosly fine"

And if you are even considering playing poker on the new and lesser sites you might just as well invest in some ponzi, way less risk.

risk/reward ratio likely depends on the stakes you play, and your skill level.

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Hello geoffreyqp!
You can try [url=http://skyhighpoker.co.uk

skyhighpoker.co.uk[/url] without any deposits atm.
The only problem is that there are not many players so you cannot win much

Good luck!

does your site have some kind of provable rng?

I cannot say anything about our site because I don't want to advertise it.
The best you can do is to wait and read the threads on this forum

We are using a poker mavens server so I guess it the rng is ok.

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Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 05:38:53 PM

risk/reward ratio likely depends on the stakes you play, and your skill level.

Already was implying that a skill level gives you the significant edge. Point being that playing (espessialy medium stakes and higher) and feeling "safe" is a little bit naive (At this stage of BTC-poker evolution)

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Quote from: magicmexican on January 26, 2015, 04:59:31 PM

Quote from: geoffreyqp on January 26, 2015, 04:13:17 PM

How can i i know if it's safe to deposit my btc in into them?

You cant.

Thats why i am staying away from BTC-poker. Even if the site itself is legit (has enough reputation that you can most likely exclude the existance of superusers) - it still very possible for them to have a weak security. In my opion, any site that is offereing poker for now is simply too small. The risk/reward ratio is not there... yet.

Yes, the players will be weaker and stuff - but personally i think you are being overconfident on how "site x woudnt risk it" and "x is obviosly fine"

And if you are even considering playing poker on the new and lesser sites you might just as well invest in some ponzi, way less risk.

As far as I know , there's a site that is legit Sealswithclubs or something like that I mean there's a trhead in here has very good rep.
Then the risk there worth it, if there's any chance that you will be beated by superusers, you will have the proff of it.
You can demand that company...

I'm pretty sure (Because I read a lot on 2+2 forums) there's a lot of people EV+ playing there.

Anyway there's always the chance that someone is making a huge scam like everything involded with btc lately.

I'd rather play on Pokerstars there's a lot of fishes on low/mid stakes sng's.

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