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Topic: All this talk about "mining specific" GPU's - page 2. (Read 1700 times)

newbie
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Agreed - the capabilities of a specific mining gpu must outweigh the lost scrap value since one cannot sell it on to the gaming or visualisation markets

Until that time, gaming cards will be the card of choice I believe simply due to their scrap value being taken into account when calculating lifetime ROI


Perhaps another point to add that would be desirable: compact size. The smaller the card the smaller the rig and the smaller the rig the more rigs one can fit into the space - thereby reducing the space a farm takes up (heat dissipation of course would need to remain unaffected.......)



The new mining specific GPUs are said to be 2x faster in mining for ethereum almost 60 MH/s for $350
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-allegedly-readying-pascal-crypto-mining-gpus-ethereum-bitcoin


Hmm, the 1080 variant is stock clocks, I don't see it doing more than 25MH, certainly no more than 30MH/s for Eth.  The 8x rig in the slide listed at the bottom is doing 200 with 8 cards which is 25MH/sec per card. 

My $0.02 says there just isn't going to be a substantial change in hashrate on any of these cards, provided they even exist.  Like the OP I wouldn't be buying them anyway, as I may game with one or resell it at some point. 

I read they won't just retail these to anyone either, that they would be going out in large quantities only.  This also seems...odd. 

sr. member
Activity: 873
Merit: 268
Agreed - the capabilities of a specific mining gpu must outweigh the lost scrap value since one cannot sell it on to the gaming or visualisation markets

Until that time, gaming cards will be the card of choice I believe simply due to their scrap value being taken into account when calculating lifetime ROI


Perhaps another point to add that would be desirable: compact size. The smaller the card the smaller the rig and the smaller the rig the more rigs one can fit into the space - thereby reducing the space a farm takes up (heat dissipation of course would need to remain unaffected.......)



The new mining specific GPUs are said to be 2x faster in mining for ethereum almost 60 MH/s for $350
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-allegedly-readying-pascal-crypto-mining-gpus-ethereum-bitcoin
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 1
The mining-specific GPUs are fake. I'm almost 100% sure. All the evidence comes from shady sources, the pictures all look fake, even the "real" ones. Someone is trying to influence the price of altcoins or the gpu mining card market.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Agreed - the capabilities of a specific mining gpu must outweigh the lost scrap value since one cannot sell it on to the gaming or visualisation markets

Until that time, gaming cards will be the card of choice I believe simply due to their scrap value being taken into account when calculating lifetime ROI


Perhaps another point to add that would be desirable: compact size. The smaller the card the smaller the rig and the smaller the rig the more rigs one can fit into the space - thereby reducing the space a farm takes up (heat dissipation of course would need to remain unaffected.......)

hero member
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Merit: 508
These are my thoughts and a message to GPU Manufacturers:

GPU Manufacturers believe that they can stop miners from buying GPU's they want in the hands of Gamers by creating mining specific cards.

This is a great concept but there is one problem with this. GPU Manufacturers don't understand what miners want in a "mining" GPU.

GPU Manufacturers believe that they can pass off cheaper graphics cards that they produce without the "extras" built in for Gamers that miners don't need. In addition to this GPU manufactures believe they can pass off lower quality hardware at this reduced cost and get away with it by only offering a 3 month warranty for "mining".

The problem with this idea is that GPU manufacturers fundamentally don't understand miners or the mining community.

GPU Miners buy GPU's of value for mining but they also buy them knowing that they can resell them later and get some sort of return. If you turn a GPU into an "Asic Miner" that after a few generations doesn't hash at a rate that produces enough profits, just like old Antminer S1's and S3's, it becomes basically worthless at that point to anyone except a miner that can mine with it and still make a profit.

I ask this question of GPU Manufacturers: Why would any GPU miner want to buy a "mining" specific GPU that they know they are just going to probably throw away some day instead of resell to some gamer out there that might want it at a reduced cost?

Examples of things I would want in a "Mining" specific GPU - Better cooling options, more robust fans, High hardware durability testing, dust preventative designs, measures, coatings, etc., Dual Bios capability on all mining cards, unlocked voltage controls, mining specific driver support, bios customization support.

GPU Manufacturers: You bring something with the stuff I listed above to market, you'll really deliver something that miners would want and many miners would buy.

Unfortunately with what information is being leaked out so far, it looks like you're trying to pass off your low quality asics and lesser cost GPU designs as "mining" specific cards.

This simply will not do and I for one will just keep buying up your regular GPU's until there is a time that you deliver a "mining" specific GPU that really puts "Mining with a GPU" first.

My statement to any GPU Manufacturer that might be reading this: If you're going to make "mining" specific GPU's, you better bring something to the table that a miner would want. Otherwise, Miners like me are just going to pay a little more and keep buying up the GPU's you want to be in the hands of Gamers.
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