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It wouldn't be fair. Just lock the thread and open another if you wish to have it self-modded.

This is what I pictured as solution after reading the replies why it should not be. I had seen few members did that when they felt that way and better if you realise that you forgot to tick the self moderated check box while creating topic so the topic can be closed before getting any replies and can be moved it to archival or request for deletion and create the same topic with self moderated option.
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I didn't make this thread self-moderated when I posted and now I want to as I feel there are few comments that shouldn't be there. Should op be allowed to make thread self-moderated after posting? I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?
 

It would be unfair to those members who have already replied in your thread.

This is why you cannot make a topic self-moderated after posting.

However, you do have the option to lock the thread and create a new self-moderated topic, providing a link to it in your original post.
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I didn't make this thread self-moderated when I posted and now I want to as I feel there are few comments that shouldn't be there. Should op be allowed to make thread self-moderated after posting? I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?
Your Idea wasn't bad, but if we consider the positive and negative effects of this self-moderate option, we will find more negative effects than positive effects. Basically self-moderate topics seem like autocratic topics to me and especially this option can be used well by scammers. Any negative comments towards them can be deleted quickly.
The issue will be such that without self-moderation, not a single topic will be found. Apart from that, if many people have personal conflicts, those persons can abuse it. So my suggestion is that it will be better without turning on this option. If someone needs to self-moderate a topic, lock the current topic and open a new topic and link the old topic there.
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I remember having created threads several times only to realise they were not self-moderated, it happens  Grin

I have to agree here. In my opinion, allowing the ability to retrospectively self-moderate threads is not a good idea. If a member overlooked making their thread self-moderated when it was created then they would have to either lock it in order to create an identical thread (which they should remember to make self-moderated otherwise they will repeat the initial mistake).

Not a good idea. Imagine I create a topic today and then after 4 months I turn it into a self-moderated topic and delete all the posts of those who replied there.  Grin
Scammers would love that so much. Trolls a like.
And then everyone who cares so much about their total post count would be in an uproar, which would then light Meta on fire for at least a month with complaints.  

Don't get me wrong, there have been times when I've created a thread and then after reading some of the standard bitcointalk idiocy wished I could have switched it to a self-moderated one, but the idea of implementing the ability for members to do that would just be bad all around.  Theymos no doubt realizes this and isn't likely to even consider it--kind of like many of the good suggestions that get brought up now and again. (just busting your iron balls, boss man)
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It wouldn't be fair. Just lock the thread and open another if you wish to have it self-modded.
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That is understandable but if the admin thinks it is a good idea then it should be implemented for only high ranks like Hero and onwards. If still the thread becomes a spammers paradise then the mods can delete the thread. I liked the idea as it has happened with one of our members on our the local board and he had to lock that thread for some time and start a new one.
No, it's still not a good idea because the members with high ranks will take advantage of the privileges and they can change a thread to self-moderated to delete all of those posts that they didn't like. I think admins should not do any such implementation because it would cause very bad impacts on the forum and some users posts.

If someone hasn't created their thread self-moderated that means they don't have the power to delete the posts that they don't like but if they can change the same thread in self-moderated then they can delete all those posts in that thread which they don't like. That way each day some user's 10's of posts get deleted for difference of opinion or rivalry.
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That is understandable but if the admin thinks it is a good idea then it should be implemented for only high ranks like Hero and onwards. If still the thread becomes a spammers paradise then the mods can delete the thread. I liked the idea as it has happened with one of our members on our the local board and he had to lock that thread for some time and start a new one.

because the situation doesn't allow the OP to change the thread to self-moderated after it wasn't previously moderated. What you can do is bother the moderator if there is a post that isn't supposed to be.
another option is to lock the thread and create a new moderated thread. that's what happened in the Known Alts of any-one thread, that @Timelord2067 created on the reputation board.
Previously threads were not moderated and irregularities were occurring in some cases in older unmoderated threads. and finally, @Timelord2067 created a similar new thread that is self-moderated with some new conditions. maybe such things also need to be discussed with the board moderators to get a better solution.
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It will not be good for a thread that was not self-moderated before to be changed to self-moderated by the OP. People will later abuse it. You will see newbies and other people change a thread to self-moderated and delete the posts that they wishes at anytime which good members will not support on this forum.

That is understandable but if the admin thinks it is a good idea then it should be implemented for only high ranks like Hero and onwards. If still the thread becomes a spammers paradise then the mods can delete the thread. I liked the idea as it has happened with one of our members on our the local board and he had to lock that thread for some time and start a new one.


The simple explanation already had been made here, you cannot do that and also people will take that for granted and begin to abuse it, the way you see some making posts and deleting their own self posts could not be as annoying as seing your own post being deleted by someone who is the OP to his thread and taking action on deleting what you have posted, so if you want to be self moderated to your thread, then make it right at the start.

Please read what I have written above and I do think there is always a way out for such abuse. Now, it all depends on the admin to if he is interested in this idea which as always won't be given any preference.
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I didn't make this thread self-moderated when I posted and now I want to as I feel there are few comments that shouldn't be there. Should op be allowed to make thread self-moderated after posting? I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?

It will not be good for a thread that was not self-moderated before to be changed to self-moderated by the OP. People will later abuse it. You will see newbies and other people change a thread to self-moderated and delete the posts that they wishes at anytime which good members will not support on this forum.

The simple explanation already had been made here, you cannot do that and also people will take that for granted and begin to abuse it, the way you see some making posts and deleting their own self posts could not be as annoying as seing your own post being deleted by someone who is the OP to his thread and taking action on deleting what you have posted, so if you want to be self moderated to your thread, then make it right at the start.
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I didn't make this thread self-moderated when I posted and now I want to as I feel there are few comments that shouldn't be there. Should op be allowed to make thread self-moderated after posting? I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?
This would be a good development, at least it will cause more functionality and better user experience if could be done. But I strongly doubt it with the current software used by the forum. Even with advanced software, it might still be impossible since it will take high-tech expertise for that to be possible. It is easier to add functions and features if you start your topic, removing or adding to it after creating the topic seems so off to me, to say the least.

Even the best websites/forums I've visited and used do not have such capability. That is why you need to think it through before you open any thread as you might not be able to enforce any change again after clicking the submit button. Also, if this feature is added, don't you think that people can misuse it? Many are still complaining about the self-moderated topic issues, and if some users had posted because it is not self-moderated the threads but were later deleted because it is not in line with the view of the OP. That will be a betrayal of trust and wasted time and energy. This can be so disappointing and make more topics uncertain for some people to participate again which I can only conclude to be an abuse.

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I didn't make this thread self-moderated when I posted and now I want to as I feel there are few comments that shouldn't be there. Should op be allowed to make thread self-moderated after posting? I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?
I have seen such a request here on meta for some time ago. In as much as there is a great advantage if this is implemented but I think the disadvantages overweighs the advantages.

If you already made the post non self moderated and later realises that it ought to be self moderated, simply lock the thread and re-start a self moderated one and that solves it.
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This feature will make some accounts hesitate before posting any ideas, as the creator of the topic may be a troll and delete the posts. Instead of wasting time on a post that can be deleted, it is better to discuss the posts of people who are known to not randomly delete replies. This feature will increase drama between the members.
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I didn't make this thread self-moderated when I posted and now I want to as I feel there are few comments that shouldn't be there. Should op be allowed to make thread self-moderated after posting? I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?

You have a good intention but like all the others are saying on your thread, it will be subject to abuse, honestly, I have created several threads that are unmoderated but wished that I should have moderated them.

If your request would be considered, it should be by request and approved by the moderators so you can clean all the spam on your thread, I don't know if there is a modification software for this.
Once you create an unmoderated thread, especially on a section where posters need to reach their quota the discussion is bound to have spam and posts redundant.
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I didn't make this thread self-moderated when I posted and now I want to as I feel there are few comments that shouldn't be there. Should op be allowed to make thread self-moderated after posting? I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?
If you think a post needs to be reviewed and removed due to spam or other reasons that break the rules, then just report it to a moderator instead of hoping the admin gives you the right to convert an old thread to self-moderation. You may not think about what the consequences would be if admin gave users that ability, it would just cause a lot of problem.


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if the main reason is you "forgot" to set it to self-moderated thread, and the number of reply is just say 5 or even lower (depends on the admin) i guess it's reasonable. More than that won't be possible.
Those "5" or less users did not subscribe to be moderated by you.

Self moderated threads have a warning there telling other users to avoid posting if they don't want to be moderated by the OP, changing it after a user already posted means they get to be subject to something they may have not wanted.

What would make it acceptable is if you can only moderate the thread from the point you changed it to self mod and previous post stays the same.
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It's the forum protection against potential scammers, we think twice when posting on moderated threads because if the post is not desirable for the creator he can easily delete the post, so if we have this feature many scammers or potential scammers in the Altcoin section will abuse this feature, we can request post that you think do not deserve to be in your thread to be deleted by the moderators as stated by Despairo.
If ever this feature is to be allowed only highly trusted members should be allowed to use this feature and should not be available to lower-ranked members like newbies selling stuff here.
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I'm not a fan of self-moderated thread, i didn't even created one yet. As for the suggestion, if the main reason is you "forgot" to set it to self-moderated thread, and the number of reply is just say 5 or even lower (depends on the admin) i guess it's reasonable. More than that won't be possible.
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I.e, able to edit thread later on to make it self-moderated, what do you think?
The implementation will be good but I don't think it's going to bring any positive impact. You want it self-moderated or not - should be decided when you are creating the topic, changing it after is giving the others to be scared of your moderation even when they made the response knowing it's not going to be moderated.

The worse thing you do it that the mistake of not checking the self-moderated option. I had this experience many times. I usually create another thread and request the moderator to remove the first thread.
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You always have the opportunity if the answers do not follow the topic, or if you see any trolling, to report it to the moderators.
This will encourage users to follow the topic and not deviate from it.
By doing self-moderation, we, on the contrary, motivate the user to engage in arbitrariness, since not always the one who creates topics, especially in the reputation section, will read the answers that he would like to see.
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I'm surprised to see no one replied "use report to moderator" when this is actually the alternative answer when the thread isn't self moderated.

I assume the "few comments that shouldn't be there" are shitposts, off topic, pointless etc, so @OP have you report these posts to be deleted?
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