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Quote from: seuntjie on June 29, 2016, 06:03:38 AM

You can check out https://bot.seuntjie.com/BettingSystem.aspx for a few alternative betting systems and how they work.

Just a quick note: No betting system will profit indefinitely, You will always lose in the end. No bot/system should ever be used to try to make profit, it should only be seen as a way of making gambling more fun and interesting.

yes perfectly stated, no bot or system can win the house for a long period of time it is just added to take some opportunity the system of taking control of yourselg knowing how to stop can be your techniques to win from it, little earnings might be enough so even you are still using martin fails if you already won atleast 10% of your exact capital should be enough on that day and quit.

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You can check out https://bot.seuntjie.com/BettingSystem.aspx for a few alternative betting systems and how they work.

Just a quick note: No betting system will profit indefinitely, You will always lose in the end. No bot/system should ever be used to try to make profit, it should only be seen as a way of making gambling more fun and interesting.

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Quote from: nikrobi on June 06, 2016, 01:45:34 PM

I sometimes use this one: 90% chance, no increase bet on loss. Count each loss, after some time, change strategy to 52% chance, 72% or any other strategy and try to get back the red losses with the first strategy.

Example: bet 1000 (90%):
+100
+100
-1000
+100
-1000
-1000 So, you need to earn 3000 sat with another strategy. After you do it, back to the 90% again.

This way you don't need to expose yourself all the time with Martingale.
(Not 100% guaranteed anyway).

Oh your strats like mine, i used 90% first and then if lose, i change it to 49.95%, (but this was already long time ago), i wont recommend using this strat for long run, you'll get long streak loses when you're trying to recover.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 06:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

I have a few scripts me and a friend made like 9 months back that works on dicebot if anyone wants fresh ideas. Code is pretty straightforward, so its easy to check for any shenanigans, and I could explain what most of the functions/conditions are/do for someone completely new to dicebot.. doublegreen, tripplegreen, extended martingale etc.. though, none of them really work, tested them out a long time ago Grin

just like what I know this method really doesn't work still luck will win you up with dice, as a update on this I played most of the time with yobit almost familiar with the game and I already earn max of 10% of my capital then stop, in that way atleast even in small amount I earn hahaha, but seriously even any strategy dice house always win in the long term.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 06:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

It doesn't matter which way around you do it. Its still going to fail eventually.

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Quote from: hua_hui on June 06, 2016, 03:03:48 PM

Quote from: nikrobi on June 06, 2016, 01:45:34 PM

I sometimes use this one: 90% chance, no increase bet on loss. Count each loss, after some time, change strategy to 52% chance, 72% or any other strategy and try to get back the red losses with the first strategy.

Example: bet 1000 (90%):
+100
+100
-1000
+100
-1000
-1000 So, you need to earn 3000 sat with another strategy. After you do it, back to the 90% again.

This way you don't need to expose yourself all the time with Martingale.
(Not 100% guaranteed anyway).

I dont think it is a good method. Although 90% is quite a good chance to win most of the time, when you happen to lose one round, you will need to play a lot of rounds to cover back the loss and the chance of it happening to be a lose is quite high with so many bets.

Yes, but you cover back the red rolls with another method (more dangerous) and back to the 90% again. The purpose is just to expose yourself less time to the martingale strategy.

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Quote from: nikrobi on June 06, 2016, 01:45:34 PM

I sometimes use this one: 90% chance, no increase bet on loss. Count each loss, after some time, change strategy to 52% chance, 72% or any other strategy and try to get back the red losses with the first strategy.

Example: bet 1000 (90%):
+100
+100
-1000
+100
-1000
-1000 So, you need to earn 3000 sat with another strategy. After you do it, back to the 90% again.

This way you don't need to expose yourself all the time with Martingale.
(Not 100% guaranteed anyway).

I dont think it is a good method. Although 90% is quite a good chance to win most of the time, when you happen to lose one round, you will need to play a lot of rounds to cover back the loss and the chance of it happening to be a lose is quite high with so many bets.

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I sometimes use this one: 90% chance, no increase bet on loss. Count each loss, after some time, change strategy to 52% chance, 72% or any other strategy and try to get back the red losses with the first strategy.

Example: bet 1000 (90%):
+100
+100
-1000
+100
-1000
-1000 So, you need to earn 3000 sat with another strategy. After you do it, back to the 90% again.

This way you don't need to expose yourself all the time with Martingale.
(Not 100% guaranteed anyway).

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 05, 2016, 09:38:31 AM

The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.

Honestly its hard to make a profit in dice game even you are starting small odds it will still ended to lose.. i am experience of any other methods but never succes to make a profit..

yes it's true there is always be a chance to lost your money because i have been trying betting several ago with small odds but i was lost 6 times in a row and i guess for gambling online games if house didn't let you win and you will never get it and always be lost as many people has says the house always be win

The house always win this is a fact we can't reject the statement and the house never let you win, sorry especially in dice game its same like you threw your money to the road. i think hit and run the only way can beat dice game site after you win some money just withdraw it and back it again tomorow with new id and new ip, sometimes my way working good.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 06:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

It wont work as such basically the math will tell you so, you dont need our opinion. I do like using various martingale mash ups though like setting the dice to 90% win chance and then x10 the bet size if you lose. If you can get a bankroll that can take 3 losses on that system its pretty solid to keep playing for a while usually. Its all luck though.

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Quote from: Phildo on June 03, 2016, 05:41:33 PM

Quote from: Fatanut on June 03, 2016, 07:49:55 AM

You could try reverse martingale (this is what I think it's called). Instead of doubling your bet whenever you lose, you double your bet whenever you win. On lose, you'll go back to your base bet.

Let's assume that you've won 8 times in a row and the base bet was 1000 bits.

1000 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 256,000 bits. Your profit grows exponentially. It's not necessary that you stop when you've won 8 times straight, you can stop whenever you want. The more streaks, the more profit you'll get. I used to do this in BustaBit but I usually do it in a lower multiplier so the chances of having a winning streak is more than when the multiplier is at 2x. I don't actually advice this to gambling sites in which you can get a lot of loss. If you don't think the site you're playing in doesn't make you win in streak, then don't do this method.

This may be the only strategy I've heard of dumber than regular martingale.

So you double your bet on every win, how do you take a profit?

Start with 10 bets

Bet 1 win, next round bet 2, lose you have 9 left.

Bet 1 win, bet 2, win bet 4, lose, you have 9 left

So now instead you end up -1 unless you win enough in a row to hit the max bet?

The player is supposed to stop after getting X wins in a row. So the player will lose 1 unit again and again, until he hits a long enough winning streak that gives him a huge profit and he stops. It is the reason why the method is called reverse martingale. In comparison, for martingale, the player will win 1 unit again and again, until he hits a long enough losing streak that gives him a huge loss and he has to stop.
But of course, both martingale and reverse martingale do not work in the long run and the EV is always negative.

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Quote from: socks435 on June 05, 2016, 10:06:36 AM

Quote from: el kaka22 on June 05, 2016, 09:38:31 AM

The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.

Honestly its hard to make a profit in dice game even you are starting small odds it will still ended to lose.. i am experience of any other methods but never succes to make a profit..

yes it's true there is always be a chance to lost your money because i have been trying betting several ago with small odds but i was lost 6 times in a row and i guess for gambling online games if house didn't let you win and you will never get it and always be lost as many people has says the house always be win

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 06:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

Yeah, I love reverse martingale. At least you are not hoping to win playing like that, so you won't invest a lot of money in the game. You might win also once in a while. I've won with reverse martingale couple if times, but of course I lost much more.

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 04, 2016, 04:23:55 PM

another good money management alternative is called masaniello method.
https://www.betplanning.it/metodi/money-management/metodo-masaniello-online-strategia-di-money-management
here an explanation (but it's in italian language so sorry for who couldn't understand)

Hi, my name is Luigi and I'm new on this forum.
I know they are working on English version of the software and will be online soon. I long time use their method because I won one of their contests. Now in their facebook page are offering the "masaniello" free on the occasion of Euro 2016 championship. Certainly the prediction is important, but having a moneymanagement strategy is essential in betting.

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Quote from: bitcoinprofit on June 03, 2016, 06:20:08 AM

Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 06:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

All In is an alternative method

Sure, you could try all in, but it is risky, and will not last as long as martingale. This strategy can possibly pay off well, but you could lose everything. I wouldn't say that this is a good alternative.

Quote from: el kaka22 on June 05, 2016, 09:38:31 AM

The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning./quote]I have tried this before but unfortunately it doesnt work on me. We had opposite way of betting. I love betting on a higher multiplier with low bet.

This could possibly work in the short term, but in the long term all strategies used on sites with a house edge will just turn to luck. You may be lucky now, but the odds might change later; try playing a game without a house edge.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 05, 2016, 09:38:31 AM

The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.

I have tried this before but unfortunately it doesnt work on me. We had opposite way of betting. I love betting on a higher multiplier with low bet.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 06:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

You can't beat the house. These kind of strategies can be fun to try out but they do not give an advantage. IN the long term house always win, though you could profit in the short term.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 05, 2016, 09:38:31 AM

The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.

Honestly its hard to make a profit in dice game even you are starting small odds it will still ended to lose.. i am experience of any other methods but never succes to make a profit..

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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 05, 2016, 09:38:31 AM

The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.

good job for you mate if you are winning for small amount of bet but i think you
needed also to know when to stop and keep your profit, martingale always fail'
you in the long run so better keep away from this method.

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The best strategy or way to win in dice is play at very low odds and keep on playing you win just 1 bet and all the previous losses get covered ! I have tried and won some nice amount with this just from faucet earning.

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