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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 07:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

I think most strategies are just varioutions of the same thing more or less. I looked on wiki, there is no special strategy that gives up better odds. Just gamblers fallacy.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 07:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

I think there are many dice strategy out there, but only martingale is the popular one. I have my own strategy on dice sites but i don't know what is the name for it.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on June 03, 2016, 02:03:05 AM

Why are we looking for strategies and asking about it online? If ever there is a strategy to beat a gambling site that would be discovered by the site owner since it is being asked publicly making that strategy useless because of course the site owner will do some updates on the gambling site to avoid further loss isn't it?

Actually you are right but there are certain strategy by which we can lower house edge effect and make some decent profit. There is no harm in asking from a community like this where the best of bitcoin gamblers share their views.

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Quote from: Fatanut on June 03, 2016, 08:49:55 AM

You could try reverse martingale (this is what I think it's called). Instead of doubling your bet whenever you lose, you double your bet whenever you win. On lose, you'll go back to your base bet.

Let's assume that you've won 8 times in a row and the base bet was 1000 bits.

1000 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 256,000 bits. Your profit grows exponentially. It's not necessary that you stop when you've won 8 times straight, you can stop whenever you want. The more streaks, the more profit you'll get. I used to do this in BustaBit but I usually do it in a lower multiplier so the chances of having a winning streak is more than when the multiplier is at 2x. I don't actually advice this to gambling sites in which you can get a lot of loss. If you don't think the site you're playing in doesn't make you win in streak, then don't do this method.

This may be the only strategy I've heard of dumber than regular martingale.

So you double your bet on every win, how do you take a profit?

Start with 10 bets

Bet 1 win, next round bet 2, lose you have 9 left.

Bet 1 win, bet 2, win bet 4, lose, you have 9 left

So now instead you end up -1 unless you win enough in a row to hit the max bet?

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Quote from: Fatanut on June 03, 2016, 08:49:55 AM

You could try reverse martingale (this is what I think it's called). Instead of doubling your bet whenever you lose, you double your bet whenever you win. On lose, you'll go back to your base bet.

Let's assume that you've won 8 times in a row and the base bet was 1000 bits.

1000 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 256,000 bits. Your profit grows exponentially. It's not necessary that you stop when you've won 8 times straight, you can stop whenever you want. The more streaks, the more profit you'll get. I used to do this in BustaBit but I usually do it in a lower multiplier so the chances of having a winning streak is more than when the multiplier is at 2x. I don't actually advice this to gambling sites in which you can get a lot of loss. If you don't think the site you're playing in doesn't make you win in streak, then don't do this method.

Looks like interesting method i will try this in bitvest maybe it will work.. if i use this strategy in dice game i think it will not work because only to you can choose high or low. maybe in bitvest this strategy will work...

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I used martingale and won more than 1000 euros in fiat casino Grin

Btw next time I deposited 30 euros and lost them all Cry

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Quote from: ebookscreator on June 03, 2016, 04:19:28 PM

As of now never heard theres good alternative to martingale but honestly martingale for me is the best in other games not in online games.. it will work in live games.. honestly i can not trust any online casino just program not a real human play..

Yeah ,that's the entire point of this thread.Suggesting an alternative to martingle.The only possible solution I could think of right now is a clever bot.Not programmed with the heuristic behavior of the game but sort of an AI touch to the gambling environment.Resetting of the client seed should be done before every 3 rolls.

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As of now never heard theres good alternative to martingale but honestly martingale for me is the best in other games not in online games.. it will work in live games.. honestly i can not trust any online casino just program not a real human play..

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Quote from: Vongola on June 02, 2016, 07:35:41 PM

Just do martingale in short run, dont run it for long run because it will bust. And remember the best startegy is know when to stop if you already have enough profit.

Yes but this is not alternate of martingale. Though you have a point, we all loose when we run martingale too long, so if we stop after some certain bets we can make some profit I think. The question is when to stop Cheesy

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Quote from: Vhern on June 03, 2016, 08:51:11 AM

Martingale is a nice method and style of your roll, however If you only have a large sum of capital you can always start at 0.0005 and everytime you earn a profit of let's say 0.01 withdraw it. just an opinion.

While thats not what the thread is about, but that is essentially what martingale is. And a base bet of 0.0005 isn't considered good specially because you will probably bust much sooner. People who start with even 0.00005 BTC usually bust bank rolls as large as 0.5-1BTC really fast.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 07:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

My only advice to you is that, do not spend your time in searching strategies on any purely random games such as dice, roulette, slots etc, as you will just waste your time.

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Martingale is a nice method and style of your roll, however If you only have a large sum of capital you can always start at 0.0005 and everytime you earn a profit of let's say 0.01 withdraw it. just an opinion.

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You could try reverse martingale (this is what I think it's called). Instead of doubling your bet whenever you lose, you double your bet whenever you win. On lose, you'll go back to your base bet.

Let's assume that you've won 8 times in a row and the base bet was 1000 bits.

1000 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 256,000 bits. Your profit grows exponentially. It's not necessary that you stop when you've won 8 times straight, you can stop whenever you want. The more streaks, the more profit you'll get. I used to do this in BustaBit but I usually do it in a lower multiplier so the chances of having a winning streak is more than when the multiplier is at 2x. I don't actually advice this to gambling sites in which you can get a lot of loss. If you don't think the site you're playing in doesn't make you win in streak, then don't do this method.

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Although no strategy works in dice but some of the working ones include strategies like
Amount : 0.001% on bankroll
Bet odds : 90%
multiplier : 1.1
on win : reset
on loose : 11x
and just do not get greedy and stop after fine profits.

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There is not yet invented something called a strategy to win in gambling, with Martingale being the most known one in the gambling history but also as the one who can destroy a gambler in the shortest amount of time. I have seen people playing roulette in my country in live offline casino roulette and they have lost it all in a matter of minutes, their bankroll was high, maybe was cheating from the dealer this I don't know, but the guy was always hitting on red it ended 29 times black. Since that day no other game expect soccer games can make you some profit in short to medium term but in the long run even soccer games can make you lose.

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Quote from: Gwapo on June 03, 2016, 07:33:13 AM

Martingale is one of the safest strategy of any betting games possible.

Although there is something called 'reverse martingale' but it is quite riskier than the former one. But if you can bet using both the strategies at quick succession, you can eventually succeed in the long run.

i agree. but i just want to add that martingale being a safe method doesn't mean it is a good method. because it is only safe in a sense that you are sure that ONLY if your bankroll can handle a lot of losses then you will be in profit after the last win after the losing streak.

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Martingale is one of the safest strategy of any betting games possible.

Although there is something called 'reverse martingale' but it is quite riskier than the former one. But if you can bet using both the strategies at quick succession, you can eventually succeed in the long run.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 07:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

All In is an alternative method

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Quote from: BitMaxz on June 02, 2016, 07:48:06 AM

Guys do you think there's alternative for martingale?
I found some strategy anti-martingale and reverse martingale do you think guys it will work in dice game or other gambling games?

Well, martingale is not really a good strategy. Because you are assuming that you have infinite bankroll and you are going to follow the strategy till the end, which takes a lot of bankroll, a lot of patience and a site that accepts those extremely high bets.

There is no working strategy with a limited amount of money with gambling. Simply none.

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Quote from: Karat on June 03, 2016, 01:58:27 AM

Choose whiever strategy you want try whatever you can but you will end up loosing in long run best thing is to try your luck by manually betting and stop betting at the right time . the right time may be after winning some amount or after loosing some

I do agree on that manual betting suggestion. I don't believe in any of those automated betting strategies because in manual betting I can control myself when to stop. But there is not full proof strategy which can work for everybody so just use all these tricks and put some twists and try yourself for short period and keeping changing things.

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