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legendary
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January 19, 2024, 05:24:27 PM
#56
ETH is now back working. Still no communication from the Coinomi devs.
If you have not bothered to get your ETH (and tokens out) now would be a good time to to it.

Might work for years, might not make it through the weekend.

-Dave
legendary
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December 30, 2023, 05:27:20 AM
#55
And.....it looks like Dash is dead now too
Considering that no one has been maintaining and updating the software for a long time, it's expected that more and more assets will start becoming useless.

For those who still use Dash, there are native software solutions both for desktop and mobile. Plus a non-custodial web wallet, according to the information on the official website. Ian Coleman's tool can be used in case there is a difference in the derivation path.
legendary
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December 27, 2023, 04:58:19 PM
#54
Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.
There is nobody to run the nodes for all coins anymore, and we can't fork Coinomi wallet because it's not open source anymore.
Few alternative options are available and I mentioned them before, but they are far from perfect.

Sad.

They could open their code, so someone could run it.

The best is to move all your coins somewhere else before it is too late and someone actually loses money with it

Don't think anyone is really going to loose money, just a lot of time and effort moving all their coins someplace else.

And yes Time=Money but it's not like the coins are going to vanish, just going to have to jump through hoops to get them.

I don't *think* they were the only wallet for any coins, but if they are / were it's probably not traded anyplace anyway.

-Dave
legendary
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Non-custodial BTC Wallet
December 27, 2023, 04:23:03 PM
#53
Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.
There is nobody to run the nodes for all coins anymore, and we can't fork Coinomi wallet because it's not open source anymore.
Few alternative options are available and I mentioned them before, but they are far from perfect.

Sad.

They could open their code, so someone could run it.

The best is to move all your coins somewhere else before it is too late and someone actually loses money with it
legendary
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December 27, 2023, 04:17:29 PM
#52
Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.
There is nobody to run the nodes for all coins anymore, and we can't fork Coinomi wallet because it's not open source anymore.
Few alternative options are available and I mentioned them before, but they are far from perfect.
legendary
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December 27, 2023, 12:26:07 PM
#51
And.....it looks like Dash is dead now too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/COINOMI/comments/18r6mhg/dash_not_showing/

Just did a test with my install of Coinomi and getting the red dot on Dash. Will they fix it....who knows.

-Dave
legendary
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December 25, 2023, 04:47:42 AM
#50
OK, good to know. I wanted to mention that I remember reading that MyEtherWallet allows you to select between different derivation paths during the recovery process. So, if you have a standard 24-word Coinomi seed, there shouldn't be any difficulties getting access to your ETH tokens. But you added even more details, confirming that Ledger and Coinomi use the same derivation paths for Ethereum. Unless the seed is 18 words long, there is no need to interact with Ian Coleman's tool for Ethereum account-recovery.
legendary
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Non-custodial BTC Wallet
December 24, 2023, 07:58:26 AM
#49
What caused those problems? Are they using a non-standard derivation path for Ethereum?
Yes, non standard. Just like Ledger.

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Couldn't you import the original Coinomi seed phrase into an Ethereum wallet instead of looking for a specific private key that corresponds to your Ethereum address?  

You can't. It is in a different derivation path.

If you just import into metamask or myethereumwallet you will see another addresses,  no matter how many you generate


There is plenty documentation about it in coinomi website

Another one

https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000016910
legendary
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December 24, 2023, 03:58:04 AM
#48
I recently had a problem to recover some ethereum (from a friend's wallet in coinomi)

You have to use Ian Coleman tool and select client coinomi.
What caused those problems? Are they using a non-standard derivation path for Ethereum? Couldn't you import the original Coinomi seed phrase into an Ethereum wallet instead of looking for a specific private key that corresponds to your Ethereum address? 
legendary
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Non-custodial BTC Wallet
December 23, 2023, 02:28:06 PM
#47
I still have the Coinomi Android wallet installed on one of my phones. I haven't opened it for a long time. I just now opened it to check whether it still works. My old bitcoin address on Coinomi was last synced when BTC was below $25k. It synced quickly, though. I didn't have an Ethereum address there, so I added one now. And I can confirm that it's not syncing at all. There is also a "no connection" notification when I open the Ethereum address in the app.

I recently had a problem to recover some ethereum (from a friend's wallet in coinomi)

You have to use Ian Coleman tool and select client coinomi.

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Coin specific notes:

For Ethereum-based coins (ETH, ETC, EXP, CLO, MUSIC, MIX, POA) specifically, select the "BIP32" option on the "Derivation Path" section and choose "Coinomi" as the client.


https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009717-what-is-the-recovery-tool-and-how-do-i-export-my-private-keys-
legendary
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December 23, 2023, 02:21:20 PM
#46

He's dead Jim, you get his wallet I'll get his phaser.


I guess the question for a lot of people like me who just have some dust sitting in it is do you move everything or just each coin as they die.
For probably $40 in ETH I'll move it. But if / when LTC dies is it worth it for $5? I don't need a mobile LTC wallet it was just handy, my last TX was....Sept of 2022....

-Dave
legendary
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December 23, 2023, 10:11:43 AM
#45
I still have the Coinomi Android wallet installed on one of my phones. I haven't opened it for a long time. I just now opened it to check whether it still works. My old bitcoin address on Coinomi was last synced when BTC was below $25k. It synced quickly, though. I didn't have an Ethereum address there, so I added one now. And I can confirm that it's not syncing at all. There is also a "no connection" notification when I open the Ethereum address in the app.
legendary
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December 23, 2023, 08:46:52 AM
#44
And ETH along with it's associated tokens has not been working on Coinomi for a few days now.
So I guess I (and others) now have to really start moving away from here.
It's a shame, it was fairly good while it lasted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/COINOMI/comments/18mrq6w/etherium_wallet_no_connection/

-Dave
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 10:36:51 AM
#43
Once again I use coinomi but the value of the coins there is worth less then the phone they are on so it's an acceptable risk for me at the moment.
For higher amounts, I still like keeping a BIP38 encrypted (cold) paper wallet in my (physical) wallet. I have a backup, nobody can decrypt it if I lose it, but if I ever need it, I'll be glad I have some.
legendary
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Non-custodial BTC Wallet
December 11, 2023, 10:05:47 AM
#42
Once again I use coinomi but the value of the coins there is worth less then the phone they are on so it's an acceptable risk for me at the moment.

Yeah, that is my situation as well.

And if I do need to receive some different coins, it still works most of the time (except for XMR which I am using Moneruju for now)
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 09:16:56 AM
#41
True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

Actually, you can't.

You need to put your bip39 seed in coinomi bip 39, and then you will get the xmr seed

https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/

So you need to use this XMR seed. You can't import the bip39 seed into moneruju or cake wallet.

OK, that's on me for not being clear.

BUT I was going with the *assumption* that if you put your seed in X to get seed Y that someone can run it backwards and if you put seed Y into something you get seed X

I could be 100% wrong on that but I can't see it not working.

But either way we are still just talking about XMR, as other coins have stopped working you are still going to have to move them someplace else. So wither you export the keys one at a time and import them into another wallet OR you move your seed.

Would be better just to move what you can by just sending the coins that still work with a normal transaction and then getting out the other ones however you like and just assuming all seeds / addresses are compromised.

Once again I use coinomi but the value of the coins there is worth less then the phone they are on so it's an acceptable risk for me at the moment.

-Dave
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 01:02:55 PM
#40
True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

Actually, you can't.

You need to put your bip39 seed in coinomi bip 39, and then you will get the xmr seed

https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/

So you need to use this XMR seed. You can't import the bip39 seed into moneruju or cake wallet.
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 10:37:10 AM
#39
And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave


I found out that iancoleman.io tool removed monero from the supported coins.

However,  coinomi has its own bip39 tool with monero support.  I linked it above.

True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

I was responding to the comment about there not being a lot of complaints about them.

There have been so many wallets that just faded away leaving people trying to figure out how to get their coins because they did something that was so non-standard as to make it just about impossible to get your coins.

Makes you wonder if we will ever know what happened to coinomi and why.

-Dave
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 09:14:34 AM
#38
And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave


I found out that iancoleman.io tool removed monero from the supported coins.

However,  coinomi has its own bip39 tool with monero support.  I linked it above.
legendary
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December 08, 2023, 08:32:07 AM
#37
There have been responses from the support team over the past year. It is funny that the support team works without an update from the technical team. https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009675-how-much-do-i-have-to-pay-to-use-coinomi-how-do-i-set-fees-
I haven't read many articles, but some of the advice in the above article needs updating.

The article hasn't been updated for a long time, and it's around the same time they started being inactive on their other social media accounts.

I think someone here asked about them not a very long time ago, and I tried to reach out to the support through Telegram IIRC, but there wasn't so much help. It does look abandoned but I'm surprised there are not many complaints about them online.

Probably because for the 'basic' popular coins it does work.
BTC - LTC - ETH - Doge - any many others are still working.
Others like XMR have been dead for a while.

With no discussion or support how many NEW users are they getting.
And as old users slowly stop using it, and people here telling people not to use it even fewer new users will come onboard.
So IMO it's just going to slowly fade away.

And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave
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