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September 13, 2018, 07:20:32 AM
#76
Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?

I guess a good alternative to that would be working and being useful for the society for the rest of their days rather than just killing them, imo.
legendary
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September 08, 2018, 08:19:43 PM
#75
Every country have their own policy against death penalty.
For me if the crime already extreme and can't change anymore, death penalty become the absolute law.

No compromy if we want to see the law changed in the future !

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September 08, 2018, 12:05:54 PM
#74
Every country have their own policy against death penalty.
For me if the crime already extreme and can't change anymore, death penalty become the absolute law.

No compromy if we want to see the law changed in the future !
sr. member
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September 08, 2018, 11:53:50 AM
#73

To me, death penalty is allowed if they'd done a terrible mistakes (example : taking other people's life, such as murder, drugs). But it turns out, a death penalty cause so much trouble for everyone. They disagree about this kind of punishment. They prefered the suspect to get a life sentenced than death penalty. Because death penalty violated human rights. So i guess the best alternative punishment would be life sentenced.
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September 08, 2018, 05:21:29 AM
#72
Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?

In General, many believe that life imprisonment at the expense of taxpayers is not the best option, but it is one of the few humane decisions on the part of the authorities. Every year dissatisfied people are becoming more and may have thought to come up with some other solutions to decrease costs the state to crazy criminals!

As one option is to link to the North or to the tundra, there are hundreds of kilometers of empty space. To survive there is very difficult, no one argues, but it seems to me a much more humane idea than the death penalty. If you arrange the territory, enclose them with the border and arrange something like a desert island, where they can be banished, so you can send criminals there and forget about them without spending huge sums of money on them. To give the opportunity to those who are unhappy with their government, to create their own – albeit small, harsh, but fair, and with such laws as they like. Yes, there will be live Jack the Ripper, the serial killer, but nobody will go and let them decide how to live.
Where and how prisoners will extract resources, food, clothing, with whom – to trade, and generally build their lives to decide only to them. Do you think this punishment is too cruel and inhumane? I don't think so because there are many examples of survival in such conditions.  As a variant example of the first settlers of America, among them were also a few worthy people – mostly criminals, but they wittily in such conditions, organized their society and now as you see rule the world!
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August 23, 2018, 08:53:22 PM
#71
Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?


Death penalty decrease the number of criminals in the world so it's still helpful. I would suggest that people who will commit heinous crimes and  drugs should have an isolated prisoned where they can't talk to anyone and just alone. It would traumatized that they won't want to do any crime ever again.
How about instead of death penalty, we make use of these people? Make them do civil works? Like community service or give them jobs that could serve the public. But they must be closely monitored at all times!!! It’s like using our resources and not having to spend much on allowance. Like they do the work but they don’t get anything in return. Just like Sithara said.
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August 12, 2018, 08:43:28 AM
#70
This is a sad reality.  Instead of helping these people to change for the better, educate them to learn and renew their lives, the community (and even our government) will condemn them and not giving them a second change to grow and mature.

I do agree also that they should be treated with respect (yes even though they do not give respect at the first place and they committed horrible crimes).  We should start doing things as early as childhood development to prevent them from committing crimes the moment they grow up.
What do you think could be done in childhood to stop people from becoming rapists? I think that this is something that has to be done in the home. As much as many governments seem to try, we can't really control what happens in the home. We shouldn't really. This mean that we can't make people create loving home environments and teach their children to respect others. I think that a lot of people who commit rape have something missing in their lives. Maybe they weren't loved as a child. That's not always true, for sure, but I think it is sometimes.
newbie
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August 12, 2018, 04:49:54 AM
#69
The death penalty is a very controversial and multifaceted subject. There are some who believe that it is justified, and that anyone who dares to take a life deserves to have theirs taken as well. A lot of religious people believe in the Biblical “an eye for an eye”, which is a pretty catchy motto, even if it’s usually taken out of context (it’s supposed to be taken metaphorically, as there are a lot of examples in the Old Testament of criminals who literally pay for their crimes with goods or money). We, on the other hand, like to think of it as a relic of the past which can, and should, be replaced with better alternatives. There is simply no use for it in the 21st century, from both a monetary and humane point of view.
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August 11, 2018, 02:02:57 PM
#68
Basically - life without parole. A lot of death penalty proponents stipulate that convicted criminals will be out on the streets in seven to twenty years, potentially unleashing them back on society. nobody wants a vengeful serial killer or rapist back on the streets and free to track down the people who testified against him - that's a scenario straight out of a nightmare! but in reality,  most people sentenced to life without parole for violent crimes are not released at all, and the ones who are usually released aftet at least 25-30 years in prison, by which point most of them are old men and women anyway. As mentioned above, life without parole also costs a lot less and allows for mistakes to be corrected. Overall, ee feel like the death penalty has a lot of negative sides and no positive ones, and while life without parole is not a perfect solution, it certainly beats the Alternative.
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August 10, 2018, 10:04:52 AM
#67
As I am thinking of an alternative to death penalty, I also think of what are the reasons why people commit crimes. I think the thing is that we luck so much in having a good mentality. As we all know, people who commit crimes are the ones with psychological problems. By having a good mentality even if there are a lot of things that's going on in your life, you can thing straight and right. So for me, why would we think of an alternative if we can prevent ourselves from committing crimes. As the saying goes, "Prevention is better that cure."
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August 10, 2018, 05:14:04 AM
#66
Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?
I think the best alternative to punishment is education and work. Proper socialization of criminals positively affects a persons. I think that if psychologists and teachers work with the prisoners, they can reconsider their views on life and repent. As for the economic aspects, I think that prisoners should make the most money that  spent on their maintenance..
That's what I think too. A big problem with many prison systems is that they make people worse. You gather the worse people in the country and put them all in the one place and treat the horribly. The culture is so toxic. Sometimes people end up in prison for some cyber crime and they are put together with rapists and murderers. They can come out as hardened gang members, when they went in for a crime the commit on their computer. Rehabilitation has to be priority. Prisoners should be treated with respect. The main punishment should just be that they are cut off from the rest of society. Their lives are put on hold for the whole time they are in jail.

This is a sad reality.  Instead of helping these people to change for the better, educate them to learn and renew their lives, the community (and even our government) will condemn them and not giving them a second change to grow and mature.

I do agree also that they should be treated with respect (yes even though they do not give respect at the first place and they committed horrible crimes).  We should start doing things as early as childhood development to prevent them from committing crimes the moment they grow up.
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August 10, 2018, 04:50:04 AM
#65
Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?

I agree to that , Death penalty is such a reducing criminals in the prison.I think the alternative punishment to those who commit crimen is reducing their parts of their body like in saudi arabia.I heard in that country if you steal they cut your hands and what you are using on doing bad things they cut it. I guess all of then people might be scared for that punishment.
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August 09, 2018, 11:42:01 PM
#64
I think that the alternative way to death penalty is through long term inprisonment. Why I say this? It is because it is the hardest, longest, and torturing sentence. You will be locked up in a room for how many years a court sentenced you, spending your whole world on the four sides of the room. You think that it is easy but on the long run, it can torture not only your physical body, but also your mental capacity. It can lead to insanity. The court does not stepped any legal matters regarding human rights since the criminal is found guilty of a crime. So for me, it is the way.
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August 08, 2018, 03:16:51 AM
#63
Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?


Death penalty decrease the number of criminals in the world so it's still helpful. I would suggest that people who will commit heinous crimes and  drugs should have an isolated prisoned where they can't talk to anyone and just alone. It would traumatized that they won't want to do any crime ever again.

All issues related to death penalty have a certain gray area, i.e. what if a person was set up? What if he or she didn't commit whatever they are charged with? Won't death penalty be a crime against an innocent person?
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August 07, 2018, 10:02:16 PM
#62
Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?


Death penalty decrease the number of criminals in the world so it's still helpful. I would suggest that people who will commit heinous crimes and  drugs should have an isolated prisoned where they can't talk to anyone and just alone. It would traumatized that they won't want to do any crime ever again.
newbie
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August 07, 2018, 02:05:37 PM
#61
There are quiet a number of alternatives to death penalty through  Preventive and Restorative Alternatives:
- Counseling and compensation for the surviving family members of homicide victims.
- Cold case units to investigate and bring to justice the perpetrators of unsolved murder cases.
- Counseling and support groups to reduce child abuse and enhance parenting skills.
- Domestic violence prevention and protection programs.
- Drug courts and substance abuse treatment programs.
- Mental health courts and community-based mental health treatment programs.
- Restorative justice programs such as victim-offender mediation and facilitated dialogue.
- Early childhood education programs.
- Offender re-entry support programs.
newbie
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August 03, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
#60
A case of murder cannot be justified by another killing, it only worsen the situation of living with the good. An alternative to death penalty for me is a sentence of forever in jail. This might be more effective than killing because we all know at the first place, we have no rights to kill a life. Every life is a gift of God. Even though others might actually kill, we ourselves know better what to do.
newbie
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August 03, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
#59
Sometimes I have doubts as to whether death penalty really promotes good behavior and prevents crime.

For example,
"Capital punishment remained a legal military option until 1983 when it was explicitly forbidden in the Constitution of the Netherlands. In 1991, all references to the death penalty were removed from Dutch law."


OR:

"Dates for abolition of the death penalty. Capital punishment was abolished for all crimes committed in peacetime on 30 June 1921. Capital punishment was abolished for all crimes, including those committed in time of war, on 1 January 1973."

At the same time Sweden and Holland have crime rates that are lower than those of the countries where capital punishment remains....

Just some food for thought before bedtime Wink
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August 03, 2018, 11:21:12 AM
#58
I think instead of death penalty they should work for factories without pay and that's their penalty.


instead of dying without doing anything why don't they just work for something that could help others lives

I agree. Totally. The best way to punish them is to make them work for the benefit of the society.

For example, they could have been involved in the recovery and clean-up of the Fukushima or Chernobyl Accidents instead of innocent people who lost their lives to save the mankind.

"The next task was cleaning up the radioactivity at the site so that the remaining three reactors could be restarted, and the damaged reactor shielded more permanently. About 200,000 people ('liquidators') from all over the Soviet Union were involved in the recovery and clean-up during 1986 and 1987. They received high doses of radiation, averaging around 100 millisieverts. Some 20,000 of them received about 250 mSv and a few received 500 mSv. Later, the number of liquidators swelled to over 600,000 but most of these received only low radiation doses. The highest doses were received by about 1000 emergency workers and on-site personnel during the first day of the accident."

As regards death penalty, I believe it's a waste of money. There are better ways to use those guys...
That is quite a novel idea. Well, I guess that is something that already happens to some extent isn't it? The constitution of the US states, “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” I guess this means that slavery can be okay if one is convicted of a crime. I'm pretty sure this happens. Unfortunately, it seems to be quite a corrupt arrangement usually. Prisons and big companies benefit from it. It would be nice is regular people could benefit from their labor.
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August 01, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
#57
I think instead of death penalty they should work for factories without pay and that's their penalty.


instead of dying without doing anything why don't they just work for something that could help others lives

I agree. Totally. The best way to punish them is to make them work for the benefit of the society.

For example, they could have been involved in the recovery and clean-up of the Fukushima or Chernobyl Accidents instead of innocent people who lost their lives to save the mankind.

"The next task was cleaning up the radioactivity at the site so that the remaining three reactors could be restarted, and the damaged reactor shielded more permanently. About 200,000 people ('liquidators') from all over the Soviet Union were involved in the recovery and clean-up during 1986 and 1987. They received high doses of radiation, averaging around 100 millisieverts. Some 20,000 of them received about 250 mSv and a few received 500 mSv. Later, the number of liquidators swelled to over 600,000 but most of these received only low radiation doses. The highest doses were received by about 1000 emergency workers and on-site personnel during the first day of the accident."

As regards death penalty, I believe it's a waste of money. There are better ways to use those guys...
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