Alts with no liquidity on exchanges - page 2.

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Quote from: Rodeo02 on December 07, 2019, 09:05:15 AM

Quote from: ajiz138 on December 07, 2019, 08:14:23 AM

Don't believe in large volumes before you check directly. Volume can be manipulated very easily. Many altcoins have large volumes, but when they want to make transactions it will be very difficult.
I have come across a lot of fake volumes of altcoin which only aims to attract investors to buy their coins.

And many exchange doing that fake volume right now and a chance that there will be traders that will stuck at that coins. The better solution if this project has real liquidity is check every social media channel of that coins and look if there are really a community supporting it.

But scammers also have a large community to manipulate everything on the telegram channel. They have a paid community with a channel group that has tens of thousands of members. They will delete every comment that always asks "when exchange" "when distribution" is a question they cannot explain.

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

You know bitcoin does not have liquidity but look that coin lots of volumes, its always depending on the technologies, progress, exposure, use cases, long term plan it is always basic and do not think always easy thing that turns into hard thing.

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if the coins do not have liquidity I think is not feasible to be made an investment tool. some people recommend investing in coins that have a high trading volume. trading volume does not guarantee that the coin is worth the investment because trading volume can be manipulated by bots. so if we are going to invest in crypto then choose coins that have liquidity and a large community

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Just ignore those coins with fake volume, i think that is already manipulated, how can many transaction without exchange to liquidity. Let focus on real project that stil running and have the futures in it. Many tokens in exchange with big potential, just choose one of them to invest.

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

I don't think it's worth investing in coins or tokens that don't have liquidity because too many fake transactions are made to fool investors so don't get fooled and if you choose to invest, choose tokens that already have big names and are in large exchanges.

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

Yes, transaction volume affects liquidity, in addition to that trading frequency and transaction value also affect. So it can be ascertained if the trading volume is high while the liquidity is low then it could be that the volume is fake. Current prices can also be manipulated, it seems like bots play a role here. This is very uncomfortable if used for trading, maybe only for hit and run.

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Most likely, the investment in such coins is a failure. Mike Novogratz very much lost his assets after believing in such coins. That is, his fund is almost completely ruined. Today it is very easy to create fictitious volumes and for cryptocurrency exchanges this is not a problem. And once the Novogratz failed to make a profit with these coins I think you have no chance.

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Quote from: tenakha on December 08, 2019, 04:39:34 PM

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

Personally, I use another service to determine the real liquidity.If you want You can test this service and compare with CMC: https://messari.io/screener

We all used to look for other alternatives, but after CMC's last update, it did not need to. Even if the volume is fake, it is possible to understand this by looking at the liquidity.

The site you suggest displays that the BTC's "real volume" is only 134 million, while this figure is 15 billion in CMC. Perhaps, the figures in CMC are exaggerated, but it can not be that much difference. How is "real volume" calculated in Messari?

when talking with data manipulation may always be there, but at least we have a place that can be trusted that the data is really real there. CMC is currently a lot of doubt in terms of volume, but what about the site that he provides to do data collection. now we have to be really careful for many things that can be manipulated if possible

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Quote from: alrose on December 08, 2019, 04:18:29 PM

Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

Personally, I use another service to determine the real liquidity.If you want You can test this service and compare with CMC: https://messari.io/screener

We all used to look for other alternatives, but after CMC's last update, it did not need to. Even if the volume is fake, it is possible to understand this by looking at the liquidity.

The site you suggest displays that the BTC's "real volume" is only 134 million, while this figure is 15 billion in CMC. Perhaps, the figures in CMC are exaggerated, but it can not be that much difference. How is "real volume" calculated in Messari?

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

Personally, I use another service to determine the real liquidity.If you want You can test this service and compare with CMC: https://messari.io/screener

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

Most if not all newer tokens/coins have no use-ability. They are un-spendable. Even if the toke/coin is tied to a project that actually has a product that has a use case.

I will be so bold as to make another statement. Most if not all crypto assets from the start of bitcoin itself have ZERO demand or are able to be spent on anything other than trading out for BTC.

More and more. I am seeing bitcoin as a sort of stablecoin. I know crazy to put the word stable in the same sentence as BTC. Hear me out. I truly think a day will arrive sometime in the future where Bitcoin is so stable. It will be the stablecoin like we are seeing today. In the vision of the future i see. BITCOIN will be the only factor every other crypto token/coin will be priced by. Fiats or their value will have no input any crypto value.

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

In 90% of cases, the answer is yes. CMC only shows the analyzed data from the API of exchanges for specific pairs. If the exchange uses the trading bot which buys/sells and adds fake order to the order book, the average daily volume will be above the other listed exchanges. In order to avoid, the trader should do own research before thinking about the trading there.

yes because if they ask for transaction data manually it will be more difficult but can see the original transaction or only bot. in addition, the exchanges have their own systems and they are sure to maintain their data, for integration only uses the API

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Quote from: Zdraste16 on December 08, 2019, 08:56:51 AM

Choosing an altcoin for investment. You look at how a given asset behaves in what period. If everything is really as you noticed, there is volume and there is no liquidity, that is, concerns for investing in such a coin or token. Such moments in behavior may not be noticed by everyone and for this reason they will lose money at the place of profit.

It will lose value in the long run, if there's no one who will support and invest the coin for their trading activities. There's a need for everyone
to be careful with coins that is not moving as the chance that it will be dumped when you invest is always possible to happen. Pumped group
or the scam developers are waiting to runaway your money.

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I wonder why Digifinex can be in 7th position based on liquidity? whereas most transactions that occur in this exchange are carried out by bots. Can anyone explain here?

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

If you are taking the volumes showed by coinmarketcap then good luck to you as you might not even see any liquidity if you are planning to trade in the exchange and it is a fact that all of the exchanges in the market gives out fake volumes and if you are investing in those shitcoins then you will be a bag holder, my advice is to not waste your time and money taking your chance by investing in shit coins.

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Investing in new projects that are listed on Hitbtc, binance and Kucoin as I found out they are the most stable as in liquidity on the exchange. Lets see whats turns out.

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Choosing an altcoin for investment. You look at how a given asset behaves in what period. If everything is really as you noticed, there is volume and there is no liquidity, that is, concerns for investing in such a coin or token. Such moments in behavior may not be noticed by everyone and for this reason they will lose money at the place of profit.

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Quote from: Nalbo on December 06, 2019, 10:45:13 AM

But it would be difficult to be sure about it as people might be withdrawing it. For example no one would put a stacking coin in an exchange that does not provide the staking reward. But mostly they are the fake volume coins being bought and sold just to increase the trading volume so that they could come in spotlight.

It is not difficult to figure it out, check the spread on the exchanges and comparing it with its total volume.
A project that has a good volume usually will not have a big gap between the orders.

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

It depends on the project itself. In fact, although this is not the case we face every day, liquidity may drop due to some unexpected problems. It is worth a try if you come across a project like this. But usually liquidity is the best indicator of demand and supply, and when it is low, there is no demand. Always be careful with undesirable projects, as you are more likely to lose.

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Quote from: Paulinerims on December 06, 2019, 10:12:25 AM

Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.

most exchanges do have fake volumes, it is clear, even though they have 24-hour volumes but there is no liquidity,
you must be careful when trading because manipulation is easy to do

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