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Quote from: fortunecrypto on March 20, 2020, 10:17:27 PM

Glad that we now have a poll here, I voted Canelo winning by a unanimous decision, he is now a totally different fighter, he just won the cruiserweight title and with that he proves that he can take a punch from heavier category, the fight will be very exciting to watch the only way that can stop that excitement is the Corona Virus let's pray that the virus will be contain before the fight happens.

This fight still makes you excited? Really? It's your opinion so I respect it Cheesy

. It doesn't make any hype for me at all because their past rematch already gave us a clear conclusion. Imagine, if Canelo able to beat GGG before then what mkre of doing it again? If Golovkin really starve for victory, he must now think of a tactic that Canelo can't read. Well, in all fairness, they had a close fight last time so I understand that promoters are raising for a rematch. I just hope there will be a knockout this time to settle everything once and for all Grin

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Glad that we now have a poll here, I voted Canelo winning by a unanimous decision, he is now a totally different fighter, he just won the cruiserweight title and with that he proves that he can take a punch from heavier category, the fight will be very exciting to watch the only way that can stop that excitement is the Corona Virus let's pray that the virus will be contain before the fight happens.

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Quote from: Theb on March 19, 2020, 10:18:19 AM

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Exactly, remember that Golovkin keeps on chasing Alvarez and wanted a trilogy and says that he is ready?

And Alvarez keeps saying, No and uninterested. However, Golovkin sign a contract with DAZN, a good strategy for him to finally make a third fight with Alvarez and make more money between the two.
As for Alvarez, he is obligated because of the contract, so as much as he didn't want a trilogy, he can't do anything.

If I remembered it correctly DAZN was the one chasing the two stars after their 2nd fight, I don't know how fight contracts works but I think by them joining DAZN it even made their next fight more anticipated therefore more valuable for both of them. With the DAZN contract they both have they really don't have a choice but to fight the next opponent DAZN will pick for them so really it is inevitable for them to fight each other since this will be the biggest payout for the company as well as the two boxers.

Many promoters are chasing Golovkin, but DAZN has the best offer for him, 6 fight deal, good for him till he retire.

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The deal is designed to last throughout the remainder of Golovkin's career. Golovkin will be 37 in April, and it was clear, he was looking to find the best deal to take him to the end of his time as a competitor in the sport. The deal with DAZN will reportedly pay him eight figures for each bout.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/03/08/gennady-golovkins-dazn-deal-ideal-contract-next-fight/#d3b63db524d3

They could pay "step-aside" money to Saunders and Szeremeta so that they can go straight fight each other in September.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on March 20, 2020, 04:37:11 AM

It was his fault that his was robbed. If don't want that happen, don't let the judges decide your destiny. KO your opponent is the only option.
Don't know if it fair, but instead of judges deciding who won, I'd purpose to make extra round/rounds Cheesy

This is the only way to find out who is a better fighter among two.

When you are fighting the elite fighters it is very difficult to knock them out just like that and Alvarez and Golovkin are elite fighters and both are technically rock solid and both are volume strikers and the words you mentioned resembles Dana White as he usually says these words when you see a close fight or a robbery to finish the fight rather than going to the judges which is easily said and done Cheesy

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Quote from: Darker45 on March 17, 2020, 10:17:27 PM

At last! Or is it too late?

While it certainly frustrates me that this long-awaited match will take place just when GGG is not in his prime anymore, I still believe both of them deserves this. Not just them but the boxing fans as well. The past couple of matches were both classics in the history of boxing. Just as they were excellent boxing shows, both were also controversial, perhaps more controversial than any other recent boxing controversies.

The first fight in September 2017 was a very controversial split draw while the second one in September 2018 was as controversial with Canelo winning by way of majority decision.

While I am a huge Canelo fan, it is not the case when he is pitted against Golovkin.

Anyway, finally, this is going to happen with both fighters agreeing for a trilogy.

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Golden Boy Promotions, Alvarez's promoter, are hoping to stage the bout Sept. 12 during Mexican Independence Day weekend inside AT&T Stadium outside of Dallas, although the date, site and weight class have not been finalized at this time.

Do you guys think this third match will be as exciting and explosive as the past couple of fights? And the betting odds would probably be in huge favor of Canelo?

[1] https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/canelo-alvarez-gennadiy-golovkin-agree-to-meet-in-blockbuster-third-fight-per-report/
[2] https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28917525/sources-canelo-alvarez-gennadiy-golovkin-agree-3rd-fight-fall-interim-bouts

I am not so sure this is the fight fans have been waiting for, it could be argued that the first fight was in fact a draw but the second fight in my opinion was won clearly by GGG and yet the win was awarded to Canelo, so it is obvious that unless GGG wins by KO most likely the fight will be given to Canelo, however I cannot deny the fights were entertaining and most likely it will bring a lot of money to both fighters so as an spectacle and as a way to make money it makes sense to both fighters to have the fight now rather than later.

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Wtf?

Didn't Golden Boy just agree a deal for Canelo to fight Billy Joe Saunders? Or was that scrapped for some reason?

I am not interested in seeing a trilogy fight with GGG and Canelo, GGG is past his prime now and Canelo is probably about to peak—not a fair fight by any measure.

Golovkin only beat Sergiy Derevyanchenko by decision in a not so great performance, when a younger version of himself would have stopped him COLD.

NOT INTERESTED IN THE DAMN TRILOGY.

Not saying it wont be an interesting fight, GGG certainly won't get destroyed. But I expect a UD for Canelo in this one, though GGG still has a 30-40% chance of winning.

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Quote from: Questat on March 20, 2020, 06:25:27 AM

Just like other boxing threads here, what about we make a voting here, can you add a poll OP?

Added as requested. I made the options more specific to make the predictions of poll participants clearer to others.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2020, 04:35:56 PM

Lest we forgot guys, before they can face each other, they have to win their interim bouts:

Alvarez vs Saunders on May 2 at T-Mobile Arena
Golovkin vs Szeremeta on June 6 at The Forum in Inglewood, California.

Lol, they have fights before facing each other? WTF, so this means that they consider that fight already as a win which for me not a good idea as there are things that might happen not on the promoters plan that will somehow derail their proposed match.

Anyways, i have read somewhere that the third fight might happen on September 12, 2020.

Hahaha, that's really odd mate, why not announce this fight if they both beat their mandatory challengers. No need to hype the fight at this point because we all know that boxing fans are waiting for their trilogy.

And yes, what if either of their opponents jinx the supposedly superfight? Are the two that confident that they will beat Saunders and Szeremeta respectively?

It is indeed odd but perhaps because this match is long overdue and in demand and the anticipation is very high among boxing fans, the trilogy has been continuously negotiated until it was finally sealed a few days ago. And it made the news.

But the excitement of this scheduled match will certainly subside if either of them will lose in his fight prior to this one. But then, according to CBS Sports:

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...Alvarez could bypass the bout altogether and head straight towards the GGG trilogy fight in the fall.

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Quote from: Jating on March 20, 2020, 04:22:59 AM

Quote from: Questat on March 20, 2020, 02:10:20 AM

Canelo is the favorites here, that is expected and it's fair line that most sports bettors would agree.
I believe that Canelo has the edge here, well majority believed as we can see on the odds provided above, but I would go for Golovkin and hoping for an upset.

Yes, I believed that Canelo should be the favourite based on his last performance against a LHW Kovalev.
Although GGG also won his fight after a lost to Canelo, in Derevyanchenko and Rolls, it looks lke he is not the same GGG that we are hoping to see. It seems that he had struggled on those both fights. And there could be others arguing that Derevyanchenko was very closed and he was hit more than he should get.

At +200 for GGG, that is very tempting as a bettor, both are good fighters and one mistake by either boxer could change the outcome of the game.
Therefore, I would still favor on the underdog here although Canelo Alvarez has been so consistent lately.

Just like other boxing threads here, what about we make a voting here, can you add a poll OP?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 19, 2020, 04:47:31 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2020, 04:35:56 PM

Lest we forgot guys, before they can face each other, they have to win their interim bouts:

Alvarez vs Saunders on May 2 at T-Mobile Arena
Golovkin vs Szeremeta on June 6 at The Forum in Inglewood, California.

Lol, they have fights before facing each other? WTF, so this means that they consider that fight already as a win which for me not a good idea as there are things that might happen not on the promoters plan that will somehow derail their proposed match.

Anyways, i have read somewhere that the third fight might happen on September 12, 2020.

Hahaha, that's really odd mate, why not announce this fight if they both beat their mandatory challengers. No need to hype the fight at this point because we all know that boxing fans are waiting for their trilogy.

And yes, what if either of their opponents jinx the supposedly superfight? Are the two that confident that they will beat Saunders and Szeremeta respectively?

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on March 19, 2020, 06:51:44 PM

Golovkin was robbed of his win in the first fight

It was his fault that his was robbed. If don't want that happen, don't let the judges decide your destiny. KO your opponent is the only option.
Don't know if it fair, but instead of judges deciding who won, I'd purpose to make extra round/rounds Cheesy

This is the only way to find out who is a better fighter among two.

Quote from: Kemarit on March 20, 2020, 02:46:49 AM

Canelo and Golovkin to meet in September after interim fights

What if one of them loses their interim fight? Will they meet anyway or they'll have to do extra fight because of that ?

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Quote from: Questat on March 20, 2020, 02:10:20 AM

Canelo is the favorites here, that is expected and it's fair line that most sports bettors would agree.
I believe that Canelo has the edge here, well majority believed as we can see on the odds provided above, but I would go for Golovkin and hoping for an upset.

Yes, I believed that Canelo should be the favourite based on his last performance against a LHW Kovalev.
Although GGG also won his fight after a lost to Canelo, in Derevyanchenko and Rolls, it looks lke he is not the same GGG that we are hoping to see. It seems that he had struggled on those both fights. And there could be others arguing that Derevyanchenko was very closed and he was hit more than he should get.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 19, 2020, 04:47:31 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2020, 04:35:56 PM

Lest we forgot guys, before they can face each other, they have to win their interim bouts:

Alvarez vs Saunders on May 2 at T-Mobile Arena
Golovkin vs Szeremeta on June 6 at The Forum in Inglewood, California.

Lol, they have fights before facing each other? WTF, so this means that they consider that fight already as a win which for me not a good idea as there are things that might happen not on the promoters plan that will somehow derail their proposed match.

Anyways, i have read somewhere that the third fight might happen on September 12, 2020.

Yes,

Canelo and Golovkin to meet in September after interim fights

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Enemies Gennadiy ‘GGG’ Golovkin and Saul Canelo Alvarez have a deal in place to meet in a trilogy fight on September 12 at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas after the two take interim fights first in June, according to ESPN.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/03/canelo-and-golovkin-to-meet-in-september-after-interim-fights/

Alvarez vs Saunders might be push thru June 1 though. I guess the promoters are sure that the two boxers are going to win their respective fights that's why the trilogy has been set up already. Not unless either Saunders or Szeremeta derail the much anticipated third fight between Alvarez and Golovkin.

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Canelo is the favorites here, that is expected and it's fair line that most sports bettors would agree.
I believe that Canelo has the edge here, well majority believed as we can see on the odds provided above, but I would go for Golovkin and hoping for an upset.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 18, 2020, 11:11:17 PM

Exactly, remember that Golovkin keeps on chasing Alvarez and wanted a trilogy and says that he is ready?

And Alvarez keeps saying, No and uninterested. However, Golovkin sign a contract with DAZN, a good strategy for him to finally make a third fight with Alvarez and make more money between the two.
As for Alvarez, he is obligated because of the contract, so as much as he didn't want a trilogy, he can't do anything.

Golovkin was robbed of his win in the first fight and the second fight was another classic and when you have biased judges scoring the bout you cannot expect them to score properly and this is not the first time we have seen robbery in boxing and the third fight will bring in the revenue for both the fighters as well as the athletic commission, both are extraordinary boxers and i am going with Alvarez because of his young age and his skills and where they will be conducting the fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2020, 04:35:56 PM

Lest we forgot guys, before they can face each other, they have to win their interim bouts:

Alvarez vs Saunders on May 2 at T-Mobile Arena
Golovkin vs Szeremeta on June 6 at The Forum in Inglewood, California.

Lol, they have fights before facing each other? WTF, so this means that they consider that fight already as a win which for me not a good idea as there are things that might happen not on the promoters plan that will somehow derail their proposed match.

Anyways, i have read somewhere that the third fight might happen on September 12, 2020.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on March 19, 2020, 08:12:33 AM

Come on GGG, you should have pushed Alvarez day and night for this first fight since 2018. Time is not GGG best friend.

He really did, but Alvarez refuses,

https://bigfightweekend.com/news/canelo-alvarez-not-interested-in-third-ggg-fight/
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/canelo-alvarez-shoots-down-trilogy-talk-says-ggg-needs-to-accept-loss-like-a-man/

Quote from: TopTort777 on March 19, 2020, 08:12:33 AM

What GGG had after their second fight ? Decent boxer from Ukrain and, lets be fair, low level class boxer from Canada Steve Rolls ? Not the best warm-up fights before the boxer GGG probably lost two fights

Alvarez - easy fight against Felding, UD against Jackobs and bought a belt from Kovalev Cheesy

It will be a UD by Alvarez in their trilogy.

Lest we forgot guys, before they can face each other, they have to win their interim bouts:

Alvarez vs Saunders on May 2 at T-Mobile Arena
Golovkin vs Szeremeta on June 6 at The Forum in Inglewood, California.

Early odds at https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/boxing/bouts

Alvarez is the favorite:

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^ Probably we the boxing fans deserve to watch Alvarez and Golovkin in the ring once again. I will personally be grateful to see the two legends in the ring. Both of them are deserving icons that are the best example of discipline, spirit and being champion. Nevertheless, what I worry about is the coronavirus. It would affect the schedule of the game but I am really hoping and looking forward to both to have a rematch.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 18, 2020, 11:11:17 PM

Quote from: Theb on March 18, 2020, 05:22:48 PM

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Exactly, remember that Golovkin keeps on chasing Alvarez and wanted a trilogy and says that he is ready?

And Alvarez keeps saying, No and uninterested. However, Golovkin sign a contract with DAZN, a good strategy for him to finally make a third fight with Alvarez and make more money between the two.
As for Alvarez, he is obligated because of the contract, so as much as he didn't want a trilogy, he can't do anything.

If I remembered it correctly DAZN was the one chasing the two stars after their 2nd fight, I don't know how fight contracts works but I think by them joining DAZN it even made their next fight more anticipated therefore more valuable for both of them. With the DAZN contract they both have they really don't have a choice but to fight the next opponent DAZN will pick for them so really it is inevitable for them to fight each other since this will be the biggest payout for the company as well as the two boxers.

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Come on GGG, you should have pushed Alvarez day and night for this first fight since 2018. Time is not GGG best friend.

What GGG had after their second fight ? Decent boxer from Ukrain and, lets be fair, low level class boxer from Canada Steve Rolls ? Not the best warm-up fights before the boxer GGG probably lost two fights

Alvarez - easy fight against Felding, UD against Jackobs and bought a belt from Kovalev Cheesy

It will be a UD by Alvarez in their trilogy.

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Quote from: Theb on March 18, 2020, 05:22:48 PM

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Exactly, remember that Golovkin keeps on chasing Alvarez and wanted a trilogy and says that he is ready?

And Alvarez keeps saying, No and uninterested. However, Golovkin sign a contract with DAZN, a good strategy for him to finally make a third fight with Alvarez and make more money between the two.
As for Alvarez, he is obligated because of the contract, so as much as he didn't want a trilogy, he can't do anything.

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