Topic: Am a christian,christ like then why are you still poor. (Read 541 times)

bible did not tell us that all the christians will be rich. money can not fall from the sky to christians or been a Christian you are automatically rich. if you don't do anything hunger will finish you. because its the same bible that told us that, there is no food for a lazy man.

Whatever principles you live by in life, they are your religion. Nobody has exactly the same religion as anybody else. Some religions have better principles than others, principles that only do good to other people, and principles that promote the worship of the One Universal God.

Do we have to buy in to all those religious ideas and start taking responsibilities,  I agree with all that you have said and this is why I mostly don't be religious rather just be a good person,  and understanding the law of existence which os kama fhat deal fairly with everybody in the world,  I have come along a lot lately and with my level of understanding,  religion is man mad and there is no why you can practice it just like education without following the principles.

Without following the principles,  you can't get the results.

Being a Christian does not guarantee immediate success, Christianity is a religion, and the major question is, are you a believer, do you believe in the word of the Father and his son, are you following their footsteps, a portion of the Bible says I will bless the works of thy hands, what are you doing, note you cannot be idle and expect a miracle money, I think that will amount to a high level of unseriousness by the individual involved, as a believer temptation will come, but being steadfast to tackle it makes you a strong believer and a faithful fellow, as a Christian don't expect everything in a platter of the gold, hustle and chase your dreams, pray and believe in what God can do, he must surely do it. Be a doer of his words, and make sure you groom yourself toward success.

I will agree with you that we aren't meant to be poor as Christ like people at the same time permit me to draw our attention to a Bible quote that says "faith without works is dead "
Yes God has indeed promised us that when we seek his kingdom first all other earthly goodies shall me added to our lives but that will not happen by staying idle,  remember our Lord Jesus worked and reaped from it, for  instance as God in human form he understood that there is dignity in labour which was why he joined his earthly father to do his carpentry work. Secondly as divinity he knew his mission on earth wasn't going to be an easy one so he prepared himself in fasting and prayers which yielded results during his stay on earth with miracles.

In Christianity today many people are too lazy to work for daily bread they prioritise everything with believe without works meanwhile God has confirmed it in "duet. 28:12 and psalm 90:17" that he will bless and prosper the works of our hands why, because we are no longer in the era of free "mana" from above so he has asked us to work so that he will see a medium to bless us here on earth.

So in other to avert poverty as Christians we must work and ask in faith for God to bless and prosper our works.

I side with you mate, Christian's now adays don't know that been a Christian doesn't guarantee you to be rich all of a sudden because even the Bible make us to understand that after given your life to Christ you still have more challenges ahead and the worst challenge man/woman may face is poverty, when you are poor, you will face a lot of challenges like insult, humiliation, oppression and all the rest but after all this things then enjoyments ahead.
Sometimes we go through suffering to strengthen our faith in Christ Jesus so when the time of havest comes we will not depart from Christ.

If we worked for our soul and body, we don't know what the work was, or how we did it. So, yes. We can work for some things in life, and get them through work. But the best and most important things were given to us by God... and our parents... even though the parents didn't know the operations of the physics that brought their children into being.

Mark 4: 26-29:
So we see that we work right along with the things that God set in place. We gain through our work. But the most important things have been made by God. Without God and what He made, there would be no working and gaining on our part.

Note that the unbelievers are using the things of God in the work that they do, just like the Christians are. Unbelievers simply don't understand where their ability to work successfully comes from. However, Christians who focus on the idea of God bringing them wealth, without doing anything for it, are going to remain poor (except by accident or inheritance). Consider Luke 16:8:

Even though He was wealthy, according to the Bible, Jesus "became poor for your sakes, that you might become rich through His poverty" (2 Corinthians 8:9). As a result of Christ's poverty, faithful Christians will receive a wealth of spiritual rewards. It does not necessarily follow that Christians will enjoy material wealth in this day and age.

Every Christian has a duty to prioritize God's will over all else in their lives, regardless of wealth or poverty in this world.Riches is part of God's blessing and we can only get this things when we work for them in life but sitting down and waiting for God to bring all this things may not be possible.

Matthew 19:23-26:So, why tempt things by trying to get rich?

The saying of Agur in Proverbs, Proverbs 30:7-9:
The point is, ask for wealth, and work to get it, but remain within God's will and faith at the same time.

After the Pentecost, the new Christian Church people gave their wealth to the Apostles. When the wealth and the management of it grew large, the Apostles turned it all over in trust to the Seven. The Apostles continued in prayer and the ministry of the Word. They understood where true riches lie.

At the same time, God doesn't want you living in poverty. Saint Paul says in 1 Corinthians 7:21:
It's a balance thing, with the idea of keeping your eyes on true wealth; Matthew 6:20:

^^^ Terms like 'scriptural' and 'spiritual' are very vague. God isn't some kind of mystical being in the sky. He's a 'Guy' who is looking for a relationship with people. And He is extremely happy when people really try to find/make such a relationship with Him. Such a relationship comes about through the Holy Spirit working the desires of Jesus and the Father in the whole world. It comes about more and more for you and me when we request it by being obedient to Jesus Christ.

Aside from having the knowledge of the scripture or being highly spiritual,  it still balls down to what the individuals engage their time in,  because even though you are highly scripted and spiritual but without application of what really generates income and making someone rich will still amount to poverty.

The problem with most religious forks is that there tend to use scriptures and prayers to sort everything and this have limited their chances of taking risks.

^^^ We need to think about this and find a balance.

Jesus recognized hard work. He did hard work. Dying on the cross, thereby receiving the punishment for ALL the sins of ALL people for ALL time ("My God, My God! Why have you forsaken me?!") wasn't an easy task. Nobody can work hard enough to save himself/herself. It is a free gift from God, through and because of Jesus.

Definitely work for wealth, whichever kind you want. But remember this, Colossians 2:3, "... in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." So, look to Him in everything, both for the wisdom and knowledge, and also for the strength to do what you can't do alone... which essentially is anything, because you use the physics of God's universe (including Jesus-power) to do everything you do.

Wealth no not Religion be you Christ like or Muslim, if your are not giving services or applying natural law, ypu will be poor till you die. Christ said he will bless the work of thy hands, meaning that you must have something doing for your blessing to come, you don't have to go church everyday for God to make you rich, blessings of they Lord is for all humans, so Christians should not feel special and wait on God for everything.

If you want to be Rich you must, be really to serve the world, by rending services or your talent, you must do something to hold something. there's no free manner again, Jesus recognised hard work.

^^^ And...
5. How many miracles do you do?

Note that Jesus's disciples - the Twelve - did a bunch of miracles. But were they as many as Jesus, Himself, did?

Jesus said wording to the effect of, "If you have faith, you can move mountains and trees, and nothing will be impossible for you." He, also, said wording to the effect of, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes out of the mouth of God (physics of the universe)." Jesus also says, "Ask and it will be given to you..." and the words that follow it, starting Matthew 7:7. Scripture also says, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of Christ."

Put these things together and realize that if you can't do it, it's because you don't have faith. If you don't have faith, it's because you aren't into ALL of the Bible the right way. And the right way is by understanding that God exists right along with His universe physics, and that He has given authority over everything to Christ.  And then by not understanding that Christ has given you authority to receive everything you ask for.

Are you really sure you want riches? If you do, ask for them with the above understanding. But when you get them, and the trouble that comes along with them, REMAIN FOCUSED ON JESUS, so that you can ask and receive the way out of the misery that wealth might bring. (Realize that the worst misery that wealth can bring is dependence on it... and loss of salvation thereby.)


There are many places in the world where wild fruit grows, and that have a good climate so that you don't need much clothing or shelter. Do you have enough faith to get Jesus and His God-authority to take you there when you are starving? But what else do you need riches for?, except to build yourself up in pride.

If Christians are Christ like and people saw Christ while on earth.  I have these questions to ask you.
1. How many houses had Christ?
2. How many Oxes had Christ?
3. How many Wives had Christ?
4. How many Children had Christ.
It was that same Christ that told the rich to sell all he has and donate to the poor?
You see that you shouldn't just interpret the scripture literally. Chirst said, "Use your hands in working, don't be lazy because lazy people are the enemies of God"
If you want to be rich, work for it.

When you live in a miracle for years and years, you forget that it is a miracle. Try making a grain of sand out of nothing. Try growing another set of arms from the sides of your torso, or re-growing one you lost.

So far we are barely finding out how to use the miracles of the universe. We don't really have any start of an idea about how to make a miracle happen. Only God knows that.

Even Satan, when he invented destruction, was only using the things of the universe to make destruction happen. Try Revelation 9:11 - https://biblehub.com/revelation/9-11.htm.

If we so study the word very well, we will also discover that many things have been given and supplied to us through it to make wealth as for those always seeking for means to make riches but couldn't arrived on any, everyone has his own time and season, it's always good to wait on ones appointed time to manifest, we can also get ourselves busy doing something qualitative enough to keep us positioned to this time prior it arrival, an idle man is a devil's advocate and workshop.

I would say you should read the book titled "The Richest Man in Babylon." Then you will understand what is meant by the quote below.


Some so-called Christians are becoming lazy day after day, all in the name of having faith in God to make them rich, but they have forgotten that God cannot come down from heaven to help them. From what I understand of the teachings of the Bible, Christians are supposed to work hard to make wealth, while God will shower blessings on the work they are doing, and they will experience an abundance of success.

If you read Proverbs 24:33-34 King James Version (KJV) then you will understand something. It says
"Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, A little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth."

From that perspective, I understand that if a Christian folds his arms and sleeps every time without doing anything that can get them money, then they will not really become rich, and poverty will settle in. The fact is that some people only have faith that God will provide, but I bet things don't work that way. We Christians must know that our God is a practical God. He commands us to do something, and we shall see good results if we do those things, but when we do nothing, there shall be no results.

If you read Ecclesiastes 11:6 New International Version (NIV), which reads,
"Sow your seed in the morning, and at evening let your hands not be idle, for you do not know which will succeed, whether this or that, or whether both will do equally well."

If I understand this part of the Bible very well, it says that we should try many things that can earn us a living. It further means that we should not just rely on one thing; we should try other things because we don't know which one will make us successful. and my question is: Are many Christians practicing it?

The laws of economics say that we should diversify our investments so that if one fails, we still have the other to back us up. Then there is also this popular phrase that says, "Never put all your eggs in one basket." While some Christians are very ignorant, they will carry all their eggs in one basket, hoping that God will come down from heaven to hold the basket when it wants to scatter.

if we still read Ecclesiastes 11:4 Amplified Bible (AMP), it says,
"He who watches the wind [waiting for all conditions to be perfect] will not sow [seed], and he who looks at the clouds will not reap [a harvest]."

Some people don't read the most practical pages of the Bible, yet they are Christians, and they just hope and believe in miracles; faith doesn't work like that. Faith works for those who work for it.

Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

^^^ Sometimes it is difficult getting an understanding of the things Jesus really meant.

Jesus said that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into Heaven. Which should a person want? Earthly riches that last for a hundred years (maybe)? Or Heavenly riches that last forever?

However, Jesus also said to His disciples when they asked what they were going to get, that everybody who left their earthly 'riches' to follow Him, would receive a hundred times the former earthly things they had in this life, along with persecutions, and in the end eternal life.

What happened to the disciples who left everything for Jesus? At the Pentecost, they received the Spirit of God in a powerful way. Then, after the Pentecost they received all kinds of wealth from the thousands of people who converted to Christianity in Jerusalem. Read "The Acts of the Apostles" in the Bible to see this.

We aren't told exactly, but it seems that the Twelve disciples forgot about serving a little. They appointed 'the seven' to oversee the distribution of food and clothing among the members of the first church in Jerusalem. If you read between the lines in Acts, it seems that the seven (even though Stephen was stoned) received at least as much power from God (for a time) as the disciples had. Why? Jesus showed the disciples the way of the servant when He washed the disciples' feet. And servants were what the seven became.

Think about it.

Riches doesn't select religion, every religion in the world has rich and poor people. those that are rich are those practicing the nature law of wealth creation.

be you Christ lie, and you don't have any services you're offering to the world you be poor and still be performing miracles. our lord Jesus never supported lazy Christian, he said he will bless the work of our hands. as Christian we must be rich if only we work and allow God to favour us in our works.