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hero member
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@Naamandror, maybe it's time you tell us if what has happen to your concern. Was it solve already or not yet?
People are discussing here based on your concern and they tried to help but you also need to inform us on what's the real score, if the problem has been solve then better update here or maybe lock the thread.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1191
~snip~
But if the rule is from the site, and the OP make a mistake by himself, we can not do anything to help him.
^ This could be the first thing that we know by reading the FAQ or the TOS in a particular gambling platform because we don't know that we prohibit the rules without knowing us. So, in the first steps, we should read first everything on the first page of the gambling site to avoid possible trouble in the future like just what happened to OP now.
Nevertheless, we can't help the OP if we don't know the name of the gambling site. But instead, OP must contact the customer support of the gambling site if OP thinks the owner is a good guy.

And how many people read the FAQ or TOS? I don't do that, and in 5 years of crypto gambling I had only one issue with casino orrientexpress, I don't know how I got there but I deposited around $50, after few hours of playing slots I had luck to go over $200 and when I tried to withdraw they said you can't withdraw in btc, it has to be skrill or paypal or some visa, I can't remember now, it was a year ago, maybe more. I had a long argue with them, without any success of course, they keep repeating I should read FAQ, but for me it was crazy for site to allow btc deposits and to not have btc withdraws.
If FAQ says one, and OP tries to argue with that, he will just lose his energy. There's no help for him here. I had luck and I used my friends skrill to get my money, of course with some tricks, I had to make at least one deposit from that skrill and only after I was able to withdraw.
hero member
Activity: 2590
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~snip~
But if the rule is from the site, and the OP make a mistake by himself, we can not do anything to help him.
^ This could be the first thing that we know by reading the FAQ or the TOS in a particular gambling platform because we don't know that we prohibit the rules without knowing us. So, in the first steps, we should read first everything on the first page of the gambling site to avoid possible trouble in the future like just what happened to OP now.
Nevertheless, we can't help the OP if we don't know the name of the gambling site. But instead, OP must contact the customer support of the gambling site if OP thinks the owner is a good guy.
hero member
Activity: 1708
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SmartFi - EARN, LEND & TRADE
I do not see anything criminal in revealing the name of the site and also translating this case into a more transparent discussion.
Half of us have to wonder what really happened. It is difficult to analyze the situation and give advice at a time when we do not see the full picture of what is happening. It turns out a guessing game.

We can only suggest based on what he said, but that will not give the right answer to him as we don't know what is the truth behind the story. Yes, we are guessing on the OP problem, and OP itself does not answer for what we need.

This is not uncommon on the forum. Most often, this behavior occurs in new accounts that ask a question without specifying specific details and disappear, and the discussion continues at that time.

I hope most of these people get answers to their questions, and laziness prevents them from returning to the forum and thanking for their help.
In any case, any errors on any platform should be resolved through the support of the platform itself, otherwise you should always write as detailed and detailed a review as possible about their work on as many resources as possible.

It always helps to improve the service.
hero member
Activity: 2912
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I do not see anything criminal in revealing the name of the site and also translating this case into a more transparent discussion.
Half of us have to wonder what really happened. It is difficult to analyze the situation and give advice at a time when we do not see the full picture of what is happening. It turns out a guessing game.

We can only suggest based on what he said, but that will not give the right answer to him as we don't know what is the truth behind the story. Yes, we are guessing on the OP problem, and OP itself does not answer for what we need.

he said the site got the erorr but site already explain the outcome . if the match win the guy could also double or triple his bets but sadly that didnt happen because his last match lost  .   its the site rules so the site cant do anything about it plus the guy gambles with that kind of money at the first place  .

But if the rule is from the site, and the OP make a mistake by himself, we can not do anything to help him.

We need to know that when we make a mistake while playing gambling, we can not reverse the money that we lose because that money will belong to the casino. It is hard to admit, but that is the consequence of playing gambling.
full member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 122
You should be able to be able to withdraw your money.
The reason why you lost your money was because you couldn't withdraw.
This case you were forced to place another bet and continue betting which led to loosing your money.
he didnt place another bet but its a contious match  .  the site is legit and he can withdrew at all times but he only talks about the cash out in his sports betting game   .

he said the site got the erorr but site already explain the outcome . if the match win the guy could also double or triple his bets but sadly that didnt happen because his last match lost  .   its the site rules so the site cant do anything about it plus the guy gambles with that kind of money at the first place  .
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I had parlay with big amount and in my bookie I can cash out before game start, the provider of the site made mistake and admitt of that, he put me loss bet instead of void the main problem that they can't change it only manually and support tell me only if I win the rest I will get paid, but now I can't cash out In the end my last game was lost and I know my self I probably do cash out if I could beacose it's big money, I be happy to hear your opinion on that, I will not mention the site yet beacose it's fair site and the owner it's good man so for now I just want your opinion,

You should be able to be able to withdraw your money.
The reason why you lost your money was because you couldn't withdraw.
This case you were forced to place another bet and continue betting which led to loosing your money.
sr. member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 377
It does not matter much if the OP has not told the site where this event happened. Also he intentionally does not want the site name to be disclosed as it is a legal site in his point of view. Whatever was happened was a mistake and the owner of the site also admits so. So there is nothing right or wrong here because its not done intentionally.

I do not see anything criminal in revealing the name of the site and also translating this case into a more transparent discussion.
Half of us have to wonder what really happened. It is difficult to analyze the situation and give advice at a time when we do not see the full picture of what is happening. It turns out a guessing game.
sr. member
Activity: 2030
Merit: 356
I think if they made a mistake in a parlay bet they should have voided the bet. Manually or automatically it doesn't matter
But you made a mistake waiting untill the games is over then you start saying" IF " probably if the last game won you wouldn't have asked for a void.


We can't really tell at this point because OP hasn't provided conclusive evidence proof to an abused by a gambling site and he haven't even mentioned the name of the betting site. We're in the dark here, we must verify things first to know which side had lapses so we can properly decide who is mistaken here.


It does not matter much if the OP has not told the site where this event happened. Also he intentionally does not want the site name to be disclosed as it is a legal site in his point of view. Whatever was happened was a mistake and the owner of the site also admits so. So there is nothing right or wrong here because its not done intentionally.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1922
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You should have asked the gambling ite to cancel the bet no matter either you won or lost that because you didn't actually made that bet right?

Then its simple, once they refund your previous balance you can withdraw them if you want to keep betting as if you wish for, there is nothing wrong with sharing the name of that site because it will help others who uses the platform to find the issue.
He was the one who made the bet as he mentioned it's included in the parlay. I guess their support only had limited options like settling bets as a loss or win that's why they couldn't revert the mistake in time.

We can't really tell at this point because OP hasn't provided conclusive evidence proof to an abused by a gambling site and he haven't even mentioned the name of the betting site. We're in the dark here, we must verify things first to know which side had lapses so we can properly decide who is mistaken here.
OP is only asking for the opinion of the majority anyway it's most likely the sportsbook that's in the wrong but then again it's hard to argue because if the same case happens on other sportsbook you'd probably end up with the same outcome since the cashout feature is still limited to a few sportsbook.
hero member
Activity: 2940
Merit: 613
Winding down.
I hope OP is serious.. I would like to know about the update of the situation, he was last active on June 22, 2020 so we are again left hanging here.
I don't want to call it as another newbie who complained then just left when the problem is solve.
sr. member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 269
I think if they made a mistake in a parlay bet they should have voided the bet. Manually or automatically it doesn't matter
But you made a mistake waiting untill the games is over then you start saying" IF " probably if the last game won you wouldn't have asked for a void.


We can't really tell at this point because OP hasn't provided conclusive evidence proof to an abused by a gambling site and he haven't even mentioned the name of the betting site. We're in the dark here, we must verify things first to know which side had lapses so we can properly decide who is mistaken here.
full member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 146
You should have asked the gambling ite to cancel the bet no matter either you won or lost that because you didn't actually made that bet right?

Then its simple, once they refund your previous balance you can withdraw them if you want to keep betting as if you wish for, there is nothing wrong with sharing the name of that site because it will help others who uses the platform to find the issue.
full member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 118
Hi Naamandror, I have seen you at stake a couple of times if you are that guy. I have seen you in sports chat often talking around so I believe if the problem was related to stake you can easily discuss with the support and sort it.

Now coming back to your problem, basically you are complaining that you are now allowed to cashout which actually is a problem often we gamblers face and actually once I had such a case where I made a bet on bet365 and they did not allowed to cashout as markets expired for a event and even though the game didn't start. I reached them and they told me that cashout is a limited feature and cannot be guaranteed at all times so I believe while its unfortunate what happened with you, but I would say the bookie has the rights to make the call.

Also, that judgment is based on what I could understand so far maybe if you could tell more clearly what exactly happened my view would change.

i think i have seen this guy already , the one that have a platinum level account  . his name is familiar now to me  as im also  lurking there on stake .  the site is reputed enough to scam people  and they already have alot of costumer support which is also active at all times  . he can message on the site to resolve his concern   .  other times i also see a user complain about primedice   , saying the site is scam just because he cant verify his bet  .  i dont think such site will do that  .
full member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 168
Hi Naamandror, I have seen you at stake a couple of times if you are that guy. I have seen you in sports chat often talking around so I believe if the problem was related to stake you can easily discuss with the support and sort it.

Now coming back to your problem, basically you are complaining that you are now allowed to cashout which actually is a problem often we gamblers face and actually once I had such a case where I made a bet on bet365 and they did not allowed to cashout as markets expired for a event and even though the game didn't start. I reached them and they told me that cashout is a limited feature and cannot be guaranteed at all times so I believe while its unfortunate what happened with you, but I would say the bookie has the rights to make the call.

Also, that judgment is based on what I could understand so far maybe if you could tell more clearly what exactly happened my view would change.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1131
As explained by the majority of members, you can share the site so that we can understand the event and evaluate the site, so that we all know whether the site is reliable? If so, we can place a red mark on the site.
In the event that you accidentally placed the bet you cannot blame the site.
copper member
Activity: 2968
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A little bit hard to understand what you are saying, but from the gist of what you are trying to say, I think the operator is at fault.
They should have voided the bet and refund you completely since it has been a mistake made by them (according to you). But, i think you probably had some misunderstanding with them so they ended up setting the bet. Once a bet gets placed, there is no way you can take away the bet.
Are you sure you completely understood what they said? We can't judge them unless we hear their side of the story. And what was the problem before?
sr. member
Activity: 2660
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I would like to see more specifics. If a mistake was made, then in the interests of the platform in its correction and satisfaction of your needs. After all, this is an accident, which means, ceteris paribus, you could easily cash out funds. Any self-respecting casino will do so that it would be good for the client, regardless of the situation, except for those where the client was caught cheating.
I agree because I could not understand what he is actually trying to explain, maybe a bet slip with hidden website name would help and I would also like to see the conversation he had with the casino/sportsbook to further understand the case. I believe cash-outs are offered before event starts and maybe the event had started and he missed cashout while if the sportsbook made the mistake and offered something wrong then they should rather void the bets because that's the gambling standards where if odds are offered wrong or something they usually void bets.

I respect the fact that you want to keep the website name hidden but providing a few more details might help others understand better and suggest a way out to solve it and remember bitcointalk community has great power so if you felt cheated just open a scam report in the correct section.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1055
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I don't understand the exact problem you are experiencing there, is it about canceling bets or maybe about payments that you don't receive when bets are finished? while your parlay bet has a losing match, if that is the case then I only assume if you might not really understand the parlay betting system, basically parlay bets do have to win all the matches in one parlay if there is only one match you lose, then your parlay loses and you won't get any payment.
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
Mistakes were made by the provider and not you because for most bookies, 5> minutes before the first game starts, lines are locked and you can't change the selection any more. On that window you can still cancel your bet or do some changes in the legs however based on what I understand on what you're saying, this is not followed. If they are the ones who graded it wrongly, then they are the ones responsible for any outcome that it may give. A compensation would suffice IMO, but outright imposing the rules while the platform itself made the mistake is somewhat untrustworthy in my books.
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