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legendary
Activity: 1596
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November 01, 2013, 06:59:23 PM
Just picked up a 290x, going to mess around with it tonight and post results.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
November 01, 2013, 06:18:18 PM
My cards appear to be voltage locked. 7970's run too damn hot to worry about voltage  Cheesy

They dislike anything more than i13 running two threads. Will handle i19 rather well as a single thread, but not optimal. Anything higher than 13 will h/w error like crazy with two threads.

Here's some power consumption, but this is my "best gal" computer doing many things that a miner wouldn't need to do.



newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
November 01, 2013, 06:00:26 PM
RandomQ,

Have you tried to go higher then intensity 13?  Also is the card voltage locked? I'm thinking about ordering a couple myself.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
November 01, 2013, 10:06:55 AM

Thanks for sharing, looks like I will pass until the price of the GPU drop..

I got a 280X and I'm able to get ~740KH/s @ 1100/1500, I love this card and I want to order 10 more!
Running @80C at maybe 30DB, its almost silent.


I really want to get a 270 and see if I can get 700KH/s, because its almost 100 USD cheaper

Which one did you get?

I tried MSI TwinFroz OC Gaming (which failed after a week of mining) and HIS IceQ X2 Boost. Both freshly released 280X.

- MSI was silent and performed around 700KH/s at stock 1000/1500 with temp 80/81 C, really like this card, compact
- IceQ same performance at 1000/1500, silent but at a max of 68/71 C (+1 from me), only thing it's huge at 31cm length, but solid and hopefully long lasting

Haven't overclocked nor undervolted yet but if anyone could post their CGMiner settings for the same kinda cards maybe of help, I'm sure I can squeeze a little more out of them. I use

Code:
-I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --shaders 2048

Looking forward to see price and availability of 290 and 280 non X versions but as per the 290X it's a nono cos of the noise that thing makes!

MSI TwinFroz OC Gaming ( On my 4th day of mining)
~761Kh\s on these settings
-g 2 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 --gpu-engine 1085 --gpu-memclock 1500 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-powertune -10

but it doesn't look like the powertune is working

I'm so tempted to order 2 more this weekend.




sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
November 01, 2013, 08:38:52 AM

Thanks for sharing, looks like I will pass until the price of the GPU drop..

I got a 280X and I'm able to get ~740KH/s @ 1100/1500, I love this card and I want to order 10 more!
Running @80C at maybe 30DB, its almost silent.


I really want to get a 270 and see if I can get 700KH/s, because its almost 100 USD cheaper

Which one did you get?

I tried MSI TwinFroz OC Gaming (which failed after a week of mining) and HIS IceQ X2 Boost. Both freshly released 280X.

- MSI was silent and performed around 700KH/s at stock 1000/1500 with temp 80/81 C, really like this card, compact
- IceQ same performance at 1000/1500, silent but at a max of 68/71 C (+1 from me), only thing it's huge at 31cm length, but solid and hopefully long lasting

Haven't overclocked nor undervolted yet but if anyone could post their CGMiner settings for the same kinda cards maybe of help, I'm sure I can squeeze a little more out of them. I use

Code:
-I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --shaders 2048

Looking forward to see price and availability of 290 and 280 non X versions but as per the 290X it's a nono cos of the noise that thing makes!

I have two sapphire dual-x 280x cards, both manage right around 750kh/s with these settings.

-setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
-setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp:// -u  -p  -I 13 --shaders 2048 --thread-concurrency 8192 --worksize 256 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 1080 --gpu-memclock 1500



Nice, and do you have to have a have a watt tester?

I don't, but I do have a corsair i series PSU with a watt meter built in. I believe it shows around 650-700W load when mining. I'll check more closely tonight.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
November 01, 2013, 08:10:21 AM
I got my R9 290X,  but when hashing scrypt using cgminer, I get lots of HW error. Cgminer 3.3.1 as well as 2.11.2 on windows.
 I have tried almost all reasonable settings of clock speed / memory speed / shader counts, lookup-gap, thread concurrency, etc, but I cannot get rid of HW errrors. It mines SHA256 without any hardware errors at 750MH/s. I am using AMD drivers beta 8, the one released on Oct 30 2013.
Battlefield 4 works great as well.

Look at the overclock.net thread and try to properly uninstall and reinstall drivers.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
November 01, 2013, 07:42:53 AM
I got my R9 290X,  but when hashing scrypt using cgminer, I get lots of HW error. Cgminer 3.3.1 as well as 2.11.2 on windows.
 I have tried almost all reasonable settings of clock speed / memory speed / shader counts, lookup-gap, thread concurrency, etc, but I cannot get rid of HW errrors. It mines SHA256 without any hardware errors at 750MH/s. I am using AMD drivers beta 8, the one released on Oct 30 2013.
Battlefield 4 works great as well.

Mind sharing your settings?
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1006
Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
November 01, 2013, 05:31:33 AM
I got my R9 290X,  but when hashing scrypt using cgminer, I get lots of HW error. Cgminer 3.3.1 as well as 2.11.2 on windows.
 I have tried almost all reasonable settings of clock speed / memory speed / shader counts, lookup-gap, thread concurrency, etc, but I cannot get rid of HW errrors. It mines SHA256 without any hardware errors at 750MH/s. I am using AMD drivers beta 8, the one released on Oct 30 2013.
Battlefield 4 works great as well.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
October 31, 2013, 11:33:41 PM

I have two sapphire dual-x 280x cards, both manage right around 750kh/s with these settings.

-setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
-setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp:// -u  -p  -I 13 --shaders 2048 --thread-concurrency 8192 --worksize 256 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 1080 --gpu-memclock 1500


Thanks for sharing! I'll give your settings a shot.  Wink
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
October 31, 2013, 11:24:14 PM
Who said it's bad that it runs at 95c? It's a safe temp for those chips...
otoh, who said it is safe? The company releasing a card with crappy cooler and wants to sell hardware? It's up to the end user to determine if he wants to keep at 95ºC a piece of hardware that costs him $550.
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As far as power draw, the guy who posted results reported 270w+- for 900kh/s, which is pretty decent imho.
900 Kh/s at 270w is indeed decent. What is not is getting 900 Kh/s at 270W after paying $550. Compare with getting 750 Kh/s at $275 and ~180W out of the 280x or 650 Kh/s for $200 out of the 7950.


AMD wants people to buy their new cards so they are jacking up 7950 and 7970 prices, hard to find a good deal (at least new).

There is a new R9 290 non x version coming soon, in 3 or 4 days, and it'll cost 400 to 450usd for very similar performance with lower consumption. Similar to the 7950 vs 7970 scenario you mentioned. I agree with the $550 is too much though.

As for temp headroom, what you say is not correct...95c is the max safe temp the manufacturer determined. It's like an intel cpu, the new ones load at say 90c temps, vs the 50c an AMD cpu runs at full load. You'd think 90c is outrageous compared to the AMD cpu, but it's not. Temperature is not the same thing as heat, and not all architectures work the same way, so your statement makes no sense.
If you keep the card cool it won't throttle, but you can also achieve that with a modded bios. (google 290x pt3 modded bios)
full member
Activity: 153
Merit: 100
October 31, 2013, 10:53:03 PM

Thanks for sharing, looks like I will pass until the price of the GPU drop..

I got a 280X and I'm able to get ~740KH/s @ 1100/1500, I love this card and I want to order 10 more!
Running @80C at maybe 30DB, its almost silent.


I really want to get a 270 and see if I can get 700KH/s, because its almost 100 USD cheaper

Which one did you get?

I tried MSI TwinFroz OC Gaming (which failed after a week of mining) and HIS IceQ X2 Boost. Both freshly released 280X.

- MSI was silent and performed around 700KH/s at stock 1000/1500 with temp 80/81 C, really like this card, compact
- IceQ same performance at 1000/1500, silent but at a max of 68/71 C (+1 from me), only thing it's huge at 31cm length, but solid and hopefully long lasting

Haven't overclocked nor undervolted yet but if anyone could post their CGMiner settings for the same kinda cards maybe of help, I'm sure I can squeeze a little more out of them. I use

Code:
-I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --shaders 2048

Looking forward to see price and availability of 290 and 280 non X versions but as per the 290X it's a nono cos of the noise that thing makes!

I have two sapphire dual-x 280x cards, both manage right around 750kh/s with these settings.

-setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
-setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp:// -u  -p  -I 13 --shaders 2048 --thread-concurrency 8192 --worksize 256 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 1080 --gpu-memclock 1500



Nice, and do you have to have a have a watt tester?
sr. member
Activity: 840
Merit: 255
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October 31, 2013, 10:22:47 PM
Who said it's bad that it runs at 95c? It's a safe temp for those chips...
otoh, who said it is safe? The company releasing a card with crappy cooler and wants to sell hardware? It's up to the end user to determine if he wants to keep at 95ºC a piece of hardware that costs him $550.
Quote
As far as power draw, the guy who posted results reported 270w+- for 900kh/s, which is pretty decent imho.
900 Kh/s at 270w is indeed decent. What is not is getting 900 Kh/s at 270W after paying $550. Compare with getting 750 Kh/s at $275 and ~180W out of the 280x or 650 Kh/s for $200 out of the 7950.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
October 31, 2013, 08:59:15 PM

Thanks for sharing, looks like I will pass until the price of the GPU drop..

I got a 280X and I'm able to get ~740KH/s @ 1100/1500, I love this card and I want to order 10 more!
Running @80C at maybe 30DB, its almost silent.


I really want to get a 270 and see if I can get 700KH/s, because its almost 100 USD cheaper

Which one did you get?

I tried MSI TwinFroz OC Gaming (which failed after a week of mining) and HIS IceQ X2 Boost. Both freshly released 280X.

- MSI was silent and performed around 700KH/s at stock 1000/1500 with temp 80/81 C, really like this card, compact
- IceQ same performance at 1000/1500, silent but at a max of 68/71 C (+1 from me), only thing it's huge at 31cm length, but solid and hopefully long lasting

Haven't overclocked nor undervolted yet but if anyone could post their CGMiner settings for the same kinda cards maybe of help, I'm sure I can squeeze a little more out of them. I use

Code:
-I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --shaders 2048

Looking forward to see price and availability of 290 and 280 non X versions but as per the 290X it's a nono cos of the noise that thing makes!

I have two sapphire dual-x 280x cards, both manage right around 750kh/s with these settings.

-setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
-setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp:// -u  -p  -I 13 --shaders 2048 --thread-concurrency 8192 --worksize 256 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --gpu-engine 1080 --gpu-memclock 1500

legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
October 31, 2013, 08:52:28 PM
The card as it is now ($550, 300W, 95ºC, stock cooler) is a bad deal for mining. Better get 7990, 7950 or 280x

Where did you see 95C? I don't think with nice settings it would go that high right?
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
October 31, 2013, 08:42:55 PM

Thanks for sharing, looks like I will pass until the price of the GPU drop..

I got a 280X and I'm able to get ~740KH/s @ 1100/1500, I love this card and I want to order 10 more!
Running @80C at maybe 30DB, its almost silent.


I really want to get a 270 and see if I can get 700KH/s, because its almost 100 USD cheaper

Which one did you get?

I tried MSI TwinFroz OC Gaming (which failed after a week of mining) and HIS IceQ X2 Boost. Both freshly released 280X.

- MSI was silent and performed around 700KH/s at stock 1000/1500 with temp 80/81 C, really like this card, compact
- IceQ same performance at 1000/1500, silent but at a max of 68/71 C (+1 from me), only thing it's huge at 31cm length, but solid and hopefully long lasting

Haven't overclocked nor undervolted yet but if anyone could post their CGMiner settings for the same kinda cards maybe of help, I'm sure I can squeeze a little more out of them. I use

Code:
-I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --shaders 2048

Looking forward to see price and availability of 290 and 280 non X versions but as per the 290X it's a nono cos of the noise that thing makes!
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
October 31, 2013, 08:17:53 PM
I read somewhere about flashing 290 with 290X bios, that could be interesting if it's possible...

Are they using the same chips?

Not the same chip, laser cut probably...AMD won't make the same mistake again.
full member
Activity: 202
Merit: 100
October 31, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
I read somewhere about flashing 290 with 290X bios, that could be interesting if it's possible...

Are they using the same chips?
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 250
October 31, 2013, 07:29:40 AM
The card as it is now ($550, 300W, 95ºC, stock cooler) is a bad deal for mining. Better get 7990, 7950 or 280x

Who said it's bad that it runs at 95c? It's a safe temp for those chips...
As far as power draw, the guy who posted results reported 270w+- for 900kh/s, which is pretty decent imho.
The 290 non x should draw even less power and run cooler since it sports less SPs, and will probably overclock more. If you undervolt a bit you should be set with a par of em, at 400usd.

Wow, 270w is really good for that hash. Might get few if Alt-coin price go up...
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
October 31, 2013, 05:52:27 AM
I read somewhere about flashing 290 with 290X bios, that could be interesting if it's possible...
That's probably just pure speculation...how can someone know that already Cheesy It could happen tho, we have seen it in the past. R9800->R9800 pro or 6950->6970 comes to mind.

I guess AMD learned from those mistakes...
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
October 31, 2013, 05:43:59 AM
I read somewhere about flashing 290 with 290X bios, that could be interesting if it's possible...
That's probably just pure speculation...how can someone know that already Cheesy It could happen tho, we have seen it in the past. R9800->R9800 pro or 6950->6970 comes to mind.
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