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I would also talk with RockXie and David Fan or any other officials to get the real picture of the situation.

If someone thinks they can get me in touch with them please pm me.


This is complete waste of time unless you are interested in listening to lies or sentimental stories of shattered dreams.
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I just ignored his (Jimmothy) useless crap.

We should get in touch with Rockxie and David Fan to forge some solution.
We should sue them, or at least file a fraud complaint, if that doesn't work.

l3sney, did you get any opinion from the attorney you contacted?

Yeah, I don´t read that way worse than useless crap either. And those who quote it and the rest of the extortionist junk heap go on my ignore list as well. And that´s forever.

Galdur, you keep using the word extortion, but I don't think you understand what it means.

This is what extortion looks like:

Actually i don't buy the friedcat story, i have deal with this kind of people in the past, I sent them a message yesterday giving them 24 hours to pay our shares at IPO price or face The Hunt publicly.
I personally found Airwolf's approach a bit harsh, when he said "Hunt".
Though he's dedicated and has all rights to fight against this crime...

...It's time to take realistic measures in our reach now.
And the best way to handle issues is to organize.
Even small investors should join this movement.

I am with AirWolf.
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I would also talk with RockXie and David Fan or any other officials to get the real picture of the situation.

If someone thinks they can get me in touch with them please pm me.
hero member
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I just ignored his (Jimmothy) useless crap.

We should get in touch with Rockxie and David Fan to forge some solution.
We should sue them, or at least file a fraud complaint, if that doesn't work.

l3sney, did you get any opinion from the attorney you contacted?

At the moment I am discussing the retainer with a couple of them the get the most costs effective offer for an advice.
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I just ignored his (Jimmothy) useless crap.

We should get in touch with Rockxie and David Fan to forge some solution.
We should sue them, or at least file a fraud complaint, if that doesn't work.

l3sney, did you get any opinion from the attorney you contacted?

Yeah, I don´t read that way worse than useless crap either. And those who quote it and the rest of the extortionist junk heap go on my ignore list as well. And that´s forever.
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Activity: 154
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I just ignored his (Jimmothy) useless crap.

We should get in touch with Rockxie and David Fan to forge some solution.
We should sue them, or at least file a fraud complaint, if that doesn't work.

l3sney, did you get any opinion from the attorney you contacted?
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Merit: 1000
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How do yo expect people with 50gh-100ghs shares to do a comprehensive investigation.
Most of them including me, are not large scale professional investors, we are regular people with hope to have some positive financial change in our lifes.

Quote from: flame1012 on March 10, 2015, 09:05:37 AM
I'm not sure how many people is in my situation but,
I've lost all my saving with this incident and it's going to effect my everyday life.

I don't get it, did you invest your life savings or only 50-100 GH/s? Or is ~$35 your life savings?

He is talking about others and about himself. It does not mean that he had only 50-100GHs.
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I know a fortune teller. He uses the Tarot cards and has a very good predictions come true statistic. He said that FriedCat is in the dark, maybe the basement place and is very scared for his life.
He also predicted whether FriedCat revive his business and continue pay dividends or no. If you want know this part of the prediction PM me and send 0.1 BTC to 1E2nSUVdck2R7ogJG1U5ZtgrsNU5sihSyB
For doubting I can attach my AM1 trades screenshot

Please attach pics of that fortune teller. I suspect it's Putin.
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I know a fortune teller. He uses the Tarot cards and has a very good predictions come true statistic. He said that FriedCat is in the dark, maybe the basement place and is very scared for his life.
He also predicted whether FriedCat revive his business and continue pay dividends or no. If you want know this part of the prediction PM me and send 0.1 BTC to 1E2nSUVdck2R7ogJG1U5ZtgrsNU5sihSyB

Finger thyself
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I know a fortune teller. He uses the Tarot cards and has a very good predictions come true statistic. He said that FriedCat is in the dark, maybe the basement place and is very scared for his life.
He also predicted whether FriedCat revive his business and continue pay dividends or no. If you want know this part of the prediction PM me and send 0.1 BTC to 1E2nSUVdck2R7ogJG1U5ZtgrsNU5sihSyB
For doubting I can attach my AM1 trades screenshot
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Those people are really asking for some criminal charges. Shifting blame and lying. Over and over again....

How was the blame shifted and when did they lie? AM was always in control of the hashrate and most people knew this.

It seems you're just one of the handful of wannabe investors who did zero research and knew nothing about the offering you were investing in.

How do yo expect people with 50gh-100ghs shares to do a comprehensive investigation.
Most of them including me, are not large scale professional investors, we are regular people with hope to have some positive financial change in our lifes.

I'm not sure how many people is in my situation but,
I've lost all my saving with this incident and it's going to effect my everyday life.

I don't get it, did you invest your life savings or only 50-100 GH/s? Or is ~$35 your life savings?

If you invest/gamble any significant portion of your money, I expect you to do a comprehensive investigation before investing. (not after like many of here seem to be doing)

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How is even a serious investor supposed to know that FriedCat was the only one in charge and had 100% control over the income/money.

The Amhash option was not the most attractive one (LTC gear was) but it was operated by a well known ASIC manufacturer.
They could prove the hashrate etc. so we trusted them and invested our tiny capitals, not suitable for real investment in another world.

Don't get me wrong, there's practically no amount of due diligence you could have done to know that AM would self destruct. Only 2 weeks ago any seasoned bitcoiner would have told you AM is one of the most trustworthy manufacturers left.

I personally don't think FC is pulling a fast one. I think we are missing parts of the story and there is a legitimate reason for AM's collapse. I just hate seeing so much misinformation spread by those who did little/no research prior to investing, and now it seems those people are the most vocal about taking legal/illegal action.

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The only thing we could do is being a paranoid and not investing in anything ever.
We are wannabee investors, do we deserve to be scammed?

I don't know what makes you think I think anyone deserves to be scammed.

If you really hate doing due diligence, I'd suggest not investing in anything ever. If you want less risk, invest in regulated stocks. (But even then you'll find that sometimes "legit" companies go bust)
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Real identity behind ASICMINER: 深圳市比特泉信息科技有限公司 and David Fan: 范大威 (Co founder of ASICMINER)

Do a Google search for:  深圳市比特泉信息科技有限公司 , and you will find a lot information to take a legal and/or illegal action against this gang of thieves.

Original Chinese:    http://www.idigest.com.cn/cn/2013-12/25/content_6567070.htm

Google Translate:   https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idigest.com.cn%2Fcn%2F2013-12%2F25%2Fcontent_6567070.htm&edit-text=&authuser=0

http://i.imgur.com/UbzjFqs.jpg

 

Original Chinese: http://www.ganji.com/gongsi/28275301/

http://i.imgur.com/LNbK2oZ.jpg


Warning to: AMHash, ASICMINER, ROCKMINER.
Is better to make a settlement to buy back the hashes  .

NEED I SAY MORE ?

You make it seem like this was all not public knowledge.
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Real identity behind ASICMINER: 深圳市比特泉信息科技有限公司 and David Fan: 范大威 (Co founder of ASICMINER)

Do a Google search for:  深圳市比特泉信息科技有限公司 , and you will find a lot information to take a legal and/or illegal action against this gang of thieves.

Original Chinese:    http://www.idigest.com.cn/cn/2013-12/25/content_6567070.htm

Google Translate:   https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idigest.com.cn%2Fcn%2F2013-12%2F25%2Fcontent_6567070.htm&edit-text=&authuser=0



 

Original Chinese: http://www.ganji.com/gongsi/28275301/




Warning to: AMHash, ASICMINER, ROCKMINER.
Is better to make a settlement to buy back the hashes  .

NEED I SAY MORE ?
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I guess some of those wannabe investors took seriously the "research" of some random anon wannabe saviors of people from themselves.
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First part of translation:

Tips are appreciated: 1Cb2JZxh2R8UxLCuQofdNFm4qnSkga2YyU

Thank you very much for the translation bro.

PPL please donate him some if u can.
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Those people are really asking for some criminal charges. Shifting blame and lying. Over and over again....

How was the blame shifted and when did they lie? AM was always in control of the hashrate and most people knew this.

It seems you're just one of the handful of wannabe investors who did zero research and knew nothing about the offering you were investing in.

How do yo expect people with 50gh-100ghs shares to do a comprehensive investigation.
Most of them including me, are not large scale professional investors, we are regular people with hope to have some positive financial change in our lifes.

How is even a serious investor supposed to know that FriedCat was the only one in charge and had 100% control over the income/money.

The Amhash option was not the most attractive one (LTC gear was) but it was operated by a well known ASIC manufacturer.
They could prove the hashrate etc. so we trusted them and invested our tiny capitals, not suitable for real investment in another world.

The only thing we could do is being a paranoid and not investing in anything ever.
We are wannabee investors, do we deserve to be scammed?
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 509
Those people are really asking for some criminal charges. Shifting blame and lying. Over and over again....

How was the blame shifted and when did they lie? AM was always in control of the hashrate and most people knew this.

It seems you're just one of the handful of wannabe investors who did zero research and knew nothing about the offering you were investing in.
hero member
Activity: 859
Merit: 1000
Those people are really asking for some criminal charges. Shifting blame and lying. Over and over again....
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First part of translation:

After so much time, we finally have an announcement. However, the disappointing part is that there is no good information, especially about AMHash, since a lot of information was misleading, making people believe that this project was RockMiner's. I am disappointed, and I am going to clarify for the last time.

The following truth is told at a stranger/spectator/3rd party's point of view. If there is anything fake, I will assume all responsibilities caused by the incorrect information.

AMHash is a project where AsicMiner entrusted RockMiner to be in charge of marketing and selling, and customer support. RockMiner was responsible to sell hashpower operated by AsicMiner in Jiangsu, China. Before the AMHash project began, RockMiner had already suffered losses. We did not have a lot of money left (600+ BTC). We refused to use it improperly, because it was proven that the more machines using the BE200 chips we manufactured, the more losses we had.

The start of AMHash:

Around November 2014, the price of Bitcoin was low, and the competition in the manufacturing of ASICS was speeding and heating up. Manufacturers could not complete their sales project properly, and the manufacturing profit was at an all-time low. From previous experiences, there are 2 ways to clear up the stock quickly: To sell them or to use them ourselves. But due to the switch to large-scale and industrialized mining, the reality is a combination of the 2 methods previously stated: For the manufacturer to set it up themselves, and then sell the hashpower to customers; this way, the stock can be cleared, the cost can be earnt back + a little more, and a bit of maintenance fee.

Tips are appreciated: 1Cb2JZxh2R8UxLCuQofdNFm4qnSkga2YyU
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let us sell our shares for the market value that is listed now without the value decreasing as we dump our shares

That's like three contradictions in half a sentence.

Nobody would buy it. Well, there could be some opportunistic crazies that would maybe pay a few satoshis.

Don't underestimate greed factor. LTCGear's shares are still being sold for abouth 1/10 initial value, CEX.IO is still being traded at 0.7 BTC/THs regardless it represents no real hashrate. Their value is perceived as lottery tickets in what if miracle happened scenario Wink
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