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legendary
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June 05, 2015, 08:51:36 AM
#45
Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English. //This could be said about Shorena as well (if I knew the person better).
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?


Shorena you're right and I've previously stated in the thread that even though his posting habit could be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my posting had (exponentially) improved he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.


Update: Improvements to the post.

those are just grammatical errors, they have nothing to do with my understanding of the text, i'm not english native, those errors are expected i think

about quantum computers i wasn't wrong really, we were just talking about two different things(you, about the fact that they could not break sha256 and i, about the fact that they could put a dent on the ecdsa)

You can check his posts from january 2014, he posted a lot there too but im not sure when the sig campaigns started, if there werent any then he is not posting for money, if someone old enough could tell us when did the sig campaigns start, it would be helpful.

exactly, there was a time where i was posting more than 40+ post(in the alt section, without carrying any sig)
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June 05, 2015, 07:08:22 AM
#44
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?

If you check his stats he posts a lot in the Italian section.
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June 05, 2015, 06:01:34 AM
#43
2012, probably.

The Inpts campaigns were by no means the first, it was one of the earliest ones (and the largest at that time).

Butterfly Labs had a signature campaign back in early 2012.

Is there any links to these? I'd be interested to compare them to the campaigns today.

Can't find the thread for the BFL campagin, but https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-oldest-sig-ad-campaign-get-03-btcmonth-for-free-no-need-to-keep-posting-198934 is the thread for TF's sig campaign in 2013.
Some of the early signature campaigns can be found in this link
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-signature-ad-campaigns-333916
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June 05, 2015, 05:47:43 AM
#42
I thought about reporting Amph several times in the past, but I never did (at least not that I remember). Yes, they post a lot and some of it is nonsense or just plainly wrong. A reasonable discussion was not possible in my personal experience. I cant provide a link, but I remember a thread where I and IIRC LaudaM[1] tried to argue with Amph and it was fruitless.

I did not write a report because of the points gogxmagog already mentioned. We can hardly ban someone for beeing undiscerning and shallow. Amph if this sounds like a insult to you, that is not my intention, its just my personal perception of many of your posts, other may see this differently. Its also perfectly fine to have different views on things and not all are appealing to everyone.

If you however as you say hate yourself for posting, maybe you should get help. Do something else or start a new account to limit the amount of posts you can write.

[1] Sorry If I dragged you into this and you have not been involved.
No, it is okay as I'm a pretty open person. I remember actually having multiple discussions with him that were fruitless. However, I'm starting to think that he doesn't understand English properly even though he might think that he does. This does not make him a spammer, although he could try to minimize his posting and focus on reading (if he truly isn't doing it for money).

if you was referring to that discussion about quantum computers, i still remember it clearly, and none was right or wrong, just different views of the same thing
Yes, that was the topic and IIRC you have misconceptions about quantum computing, but as I said above it was not possible to discuss this with you and I dont see a reason to repeat this here where its off topic. In the light of the thread it was most likely not spam or useless.

-snip-
Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English.
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?

Shone you're right and I've stated in the thread that even though his posting habits can be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my habits have improved (exponentially) he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.

You can check his posts from january 2014, he posted a lot there too but im not sure when the sig campaigns started, if there werent any then he is not posting for money, if someone old enough could tell us when did the sig campaigns start, it would be helpful.
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June 05, 2015, 05:43:30 AM
#41
I thought about reporting Amph several times in the past, but I never did (at least not that I remember). Yes, they post a lot and some of it is nonsense or just plainly wrong. A reasonable discussion was not possible in my personal experience. I cant provide a link, but I remember a thread where I and IIRC LaudaM[1] tried to argue with Amph and it was fruitless.

I did not write a report because of the points gogxmagog already mentioned. We can hardly ban someone for beeing undiscerning and shallow. Amph if this sounds like a insult to you, that is not my intention, its just my personal perception of many of your posts, other may see this differently. Its also perfectly fine to have different views on things and not all are appealing to everyone.

If you however as you say hate yourself for posting, maybe you should get help. Do something else or start a new account to limit the amount of posts you can write.

[1] Sorry If I dragged you into this and you have not been involved.
No, it is okay as I'm a pretty open person. I remember actually having multiple discussions with him that were fruitless. However, I'm starting to think that he doesn't understand English properly even though he might think that he does. This does not make him a spammer, although he could try to minimize his posting and focus on reading (if he truly isn't doing it for money).

if you was referring to that discussion about quantum computers, i still remember it clearly, and none was right or wrong, just different views of the same thing
Yes, that was the topic and IIRC you have misconceptions about quantum computing, but as I said above it was not possible to discuss this with you and I dont see a reason to repeat this here where its off topic. In the light of the thread it was most likely not spam or useless.

-snip-

Whether this is something you care or not I cant judge, but I personally would not want to end on Danny's ignore list. Its probably the person that taught me most about bitcoins inner workings, about misconceptions I had and probably still have. Knowing that I would never again get corrected by him would certainly be problematic for me.

I also remember you giving good advice in the tech support section and I certainly dont read all your posts, so my impression is flawed anyway. If I see something I think is wrong I will speak up, but thats part of a discussion board and no reason to ban someone IMHO. It would be borring if everyone here would agree on everything.
Actually I was right and so was shorena. I have a strong technical background that will soon exponentially get better. You can't seriously expect to have a better understanding of q. computing (in this language) than me when you have problems dealing with English. //This could be said about Shorena as well (if I knew the person better).
This just verifies my first assumption. Amph isn't proficient in English [not to mention the grammatical errors (e.g. if you was)], and isn't that good at dealing with discussions either. I'm going to assume that he's from a 3rd world country as they don't have any classes that teach proper argumentation and debating.
Amph if I may ask, where are you from?


Shorena you're right and I've previously stated in the thread that even though his posting habit could be considered quite bad it doesn't mean that he is a spammer. It's good to mention Danny's list; he's a very patient person. I was on that list without even realizing, however as soon as my posting had (exponentially) improved he removed me. I honestly believe that every single member on that list deserves to be on it.


Update: Improvements to the post.
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June 05, 2015, 05:30:44 AM
#40
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it's not that i hate myself for posting that much(that was a bit of a joke of course), was just a way to say that i understand why someone could get upset by viewing always the same guy posting in every thread

I dont think seeing always the same person is something I would hate. It certainly depends on the person.

if you was referring to that discussion about quantum computers, i still remember it clearly, and none was right or wrong, just different views of the same thing

Yes, that was the topic and IIRC you have misconceptions about quantum computing, but as I said above it was not possible to discuss this with you and I dont see a reason to repeat this here where its off topic. In the light of the thread it was most likely not spam or useless.

I am not BadBear and I am not sure how exactly they judge whether someone deserves a ban or not, but if I were in BadBears position I would certainly add you to my watch list. That beeing said, I did look at your posts in more detail and never saw any reason to call you out as spammer.

Whether this is something you care or not I cant judge, but I personally would not want to end on Danny's ignore list. Its probably the person that taught me most about bitcoins inner workings, about misconceptions I had and probably still have. Knowing that I would never again get corrected by him would certainly be problematic for me.

I also remember you giving good advice in the tech support section and I certainly dont read all your posts, so my impression is flawed anyway. If I see something I think is wrong I will speak up, but thats part of a discussion board and no reason to ban someone IMHO. It would be borring if everyone here would agree on everything.

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June 05, 2015, 05:11:42 AM
#39
I fail to understand why do these useless topic keep on springing up every day. Meta is not a place to accuse people of spamming and then again and again having the same discussion on what qualifies up to a constructive post.
BadBear has earlier also asked to report people directly to him via PM, so better do that, Badbear has a fine sense of judgement and will take care of the reported user and will ban him if his posts are found out to be spam.
I don't think you're right at all (first part). If people are going to make threads like these it should be in Meta, anywhere else would be more off topic. If you think this is a useless topic, you have no idea what nonsense people are posting in the Off Topic subsection.
As I've stated the thread is somewhat fine, only because we've had (many) threads against other users because of trust (Dogie, QS, Vod, Canary..). However, the only case that was actually correct was Canary because he was abusing the trust list.
We'd expect the moderators to act after he made 13k posts right? They probably consider him fine then, even though (as listed) some of his habits are pretty bad.
But we have topic like this everyday and we start discussing the same thing again and again, and its pretty useless to everyday discuss the sane thing on each new thread. It would be really better if people are straight away reported to BadBear, i hope you can trust his wit.

I think its important to have an open discussion about this. In the end you cant put all the work on a single person (BadBear).

I thought about reporting Amph several times in the past, but I never did (at least not that I remember). Yes, they post a lot and some of it is nonsense or just plainly wrong. A reasonable discussion was not possible in my personal experience. I cant provide a link, but I remember a thread where I and IIRC LaudaM[1] tried to argue with Amph and it was fruitless.

I did not write a report because of the points gogxmagog already mentioned. We can hardly ban someone for beeing undiscerning and shallow. Amph if this sounds like a insult to you, that is not my intention, its just my personal perception of many of your posts, other may see this differently. Its also perfectly fine to have different views on things and not all are appealing to everyone.

If you however as you say hate yourself for posting, maybe you should get help. Do something else or start a new account to limit the amount of posts you can write.


[1] Sorry If I dragged you into this and you have not been involved.

it's not that i hate myself for posting that much(that was a bit of a joke of course), was just a way to say that i understand why someone could get upset by viewing always the same guy posting in every thread

if you were referring to that discussion about quantum computers, i still remember it clearly, and none was right or wrong, just different views of the same thing
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June 05, 2015, 04:59:46 AM
#38
I fail to understand why do these useless topic keep on springing up every day. Meta is not a place to accuse people of spamming and then again and again having the same discussion on what qualifies up to a constructive post.
BadBear has earlier also asked to report people directly to him via PM, so better do that, Badbear has a fine sense of judgement and will take care of the reported user and will ban him if his posts are found out to be spam.
I don't think you're right at all (first part). If people are going to make threads like these it should be in Meta, anywhere else would be more off topic. If you think this is a useless topic, you have no idea what nonsense people are posting in the Off Topic subsection.
As I've stated the thread is somewhat fine, only because we've had (many) threads against other users because of trust (Dogie, QS, Vod, Canary..). However, the only case that was actually correct was Canary because he was abusing the trust list.
We'd expect the moderators to act after he made 13k posts right? They probably consider him fine then, even though (as listed) some of his habits are pretty bad.
But we have topic like this everyday and we start discussing the same thing again and again, and its pretty useless to everyday discuss the sane thing on each new thread. It would be really better if people are straight away reported to BadBear, i hope you can trust his wit.

I think its important to have an open discussion about this. In the end you cant put all the work on a single person (BadBear).

I thought about reporting Amph several times in the past, but I never did (at least not that I remember). Yes, they post a lot and some of it is nonsense or just plainly wrong. A reasonable discussion was not possible in my personal experience. I cant provide a link, but I remember a thread where I and IIRC LaudaM[1] tried to argue with Amph and it was fruitless.

I did not write a report because of the points gogxmagog already mentioned. We can hardly ban someone for beeing undiscerning and shallow. Amph if this sounds like a insult to you, that is not my intention, its just my personal perception of many of your posts, other may see this differently. Its also perfectly fine to have different views on things and not all are appealing to everyone.

If you however as you say hate yourself for posting, maybe you should get help. Do something else or start a new account to limit the amount of posts you can write.


[1] Sorry If I dragged you into this and you have not been involved.
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June 05, 2015, 03:37:45 AM
#37
i started to report a lot of his insubstantial and useless posts (don't add anything of useful to the conversation). the moderators should take an action against this type of users the most spammer is Amph (he makes 250-300 posts per week and the majority are really insubstantial or useless)

Profile link https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amph-99297

Bye.

I completely agree.  I haven't been registered on this forum for long, but he's the first one I put on my ignore list.  He posts in almost every new topic and most of what he writes is complete retard gibberish.  There is no other forum I know of that has anything approaching the corrupting effects of the signature campaigns.  

Thumbs down, says Caesar!!!

i see no difference from "retard gibberish" and your retard gibberish post in your profile..., i think here the problem is another, here there a problem of hating someone that is everywhere on the forum, i can understand this aspect, because some times i also hate myself when i scroll some thread and i see that i'm in everyone of those(a bit hilarious but it's the truth lol)

my only problem is that i have plenty of free time and i can post all day nothing else

Whatever dude, dont listen to them, in any case you could start a thread against the OP, take a look at his posts, mostly 1 liners with what, 30 characters at most, he complains about you spamming when his posts are total trash, his excuse? ''i dont use a sig campaign'' so because you dont wear a sig ad you can post trash all over the forum and complain about others.
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June 05, 2015, 03:32:52 AM
#36
for everyone tired of this sig spam: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-personal-ignore-list-973843

c&p the list and be happy  Smiley
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June 05, 2015, 03:11:10 AM
#35
i started to report a lot of his insubstantial and useless posts (don't add anything of useful to the conversation). the moderators should take an action against this type of users the most spammer is Amph (he makes 250-300 posts per week and the majority are really insubstantial or useless)

Profile link https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amph-99297

Bye.

I completely agree.  I haven't been registered on this forum for long, but he's the first one I put on my ignore list.  He posts in almost every new topic and most of what he writes is complete retard gibberish.  There is no other forum I know of that has anything approaching the corrupting effects of the signature campaigns.  

Thumbs down, says Caesar!!!

i see no difference from "retard gibberish" and your retard gibberish post in your profile..., i think here the problem is another, here there a problem of hating someone that is everywhere on the forum, i can understand this aspect, because some times i also hate myself when i scroll some thread and i see that i'm in everyone of those(a bit hilarious but it's the truth lol)

my only problem is that i have plenty of free time and i can post all day nothing else
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June 04, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
#34
I like Amph, I've bought a couple of scrypt miners and mined on a few of his pools before and never had a problem.

Ok he posts a lot but perhaps he just likes contributing.
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June 04, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
#33
i started to report a lot of his insubstantial and useless posts (don't add anything of useful to the conversation). the moderators should take an action against this type of users the most spammer is Amph (he makes 250-300 posts per week and the majority are really insubstantial or useless)

Profile link https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amph-99297

Bye.

I completely agree.  I haven't been registered on this forum for long, but he's the first one I put on my ignore list.  He posts in almost every new topic and most of what he writes is complete retard gibberish.  There is no other forum I know of that has anything approaching the corrupting effects of the signature campaigns. 

Thumbs down, says Caesar!!!
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June 03, 2015, 02:40:20 PM
#32
I reported to Badbear and theymos "amph" now let them review this guy. This guy is an obvious example of spammer here on forum.
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June 03, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
#31
Annoying and stupid yes, and as useless as amph's posts may be I don't think he qualifies as a spammer (according to rules and mods)
This whole argument is like censorship arguments. Ban amph's and mods would rightfully need to ban all sorts of not-scintillating users. There can be no rules regarding intellectual depth on a public forum, because... autistic bitcoiners need bitcointalk too you know.
Also, eliminating sig campaigns won't happen. Even some mods participate, plenty users manage to post decent content and meet sig obligations. They don't put shit posts, you would be punishing them along with amph.
Also, the forum runs ads at the top of each page. Might be interpreted as hypocritical if the sigs vanish.

Obviously the mods have already made their decisions. I suggest to all users offended by dumb posts and sig ads that they disable ads in you account settings and place serial shit posters on ignore. Only problem with that is you'll see page after page of "this user is ignored" and nothing else

It's a tough one. Capitalist freedom or intellectual elitism....
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June 03, 2015, 02:17:25 AM
#30
I fail to understand why do these useless topic keep on springing up every day. Meta is not a place to accuse people of spamming and then again and again having the same discussion on what qualifies up to a constructive post.
BadBear has earlier also asked to report people directly to him via PM, so better do that, Badbear has a fine sense of judgement and will take care of the reported user and will ban him if his posts are found out to be spam.
I don't think you're right at all (first part). If people are going to make threads like these it should be in Meta, anywhere else would be more off topic. If you think this is a useless topic, you have no idea what nonsense people are posting in the Off Topic subsection.
As I've stated the thread is somewhat fine, only because we've had (many) threads against other users because of trust (Dogie, QS, Vod, Canary..). However, the only case that was actually correct was Canary because he was abusing the trust list.
We'd expect the moderators to act after he made 13k posts right? They probably consider him fine then, even though (as listed) some of his habits are pretty bad.
But we have topic like this everyday and we start discussing the same thing again and again, and its pretty useless to everyday discuss the sane thing on each new thread. It would be really better if people are straight away reported to BadBear, i hope you can trust his wit.
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June 03, 2015, 02:11:13 AM
#29
I fail to understand why do these useless topic keep on springing up every day. Meta is not a place to accuse people of spamming and then again and again having the same discussion on what qualifies up to a constructive post.
BadBear has earlier also asked to report people directly to him via PM, so better do that, Badbear has a fine sense of judgement and will take care of the reported user and will ban him if his posts are found out to be spam.
I don't think you're right at all (first part). If people are going to make threads like these it should be in Meta, anywhere else would be more off topic. If you think this is a useless topic, you have no idea what nonsense people are posting in the Off Topic subsection.
As I've stated the thread is somewhat fine, only because we've had (many) threads against other users because of trust (Dogie, QS, Vod, Canary..). However, the only case that was actually correct was Canary because he was abusing the trust list.
We'd expect the moderators to act after he made 13k posts right? They probably consider him fine then, even though (as listed) some of his habits are pretty bad.
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June 03, 2015, 01:47:48 AM
#28
I fail to understand why do these useless topic keep on springing up every day. Meta is not a place to accuse people of spamming and then again and again having the same discussion on what qualifies up to a constructive post.
BadBear has earlier also asked to report people directly to him via PM, so better do that, Badbear has a fine sense of judgement and will take care of the reported user and will ban him if his posts are found out to be spam.
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June 02, 2015, 03:42:57 PM
#27

I've seen that thread and it's kinda hard to understand what exactly OP was asking. Others in that thread have also expressed confusion about the question as well:

what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

What crimes are you referring to?  This is kinda very very broad and could be a lot of topis.  So hard to even give an anwser.

Like crimes btc is used  in?  Crimes when its stolen?  All depends which one.

what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

What crimes are you referring to?  This is kinda very very broad and could be a lot of topis.  So hard to even give an anwser.

Like crimes btc is used  in?  Crimes when its stolen?  All depends which one.

Exactly, OP isnt providing enough information here to get an answer they're looking for; are we talking real life or on this forum in general? One real life example I can think of is requiring cryptography to prove your identity; could've come in handy with the social engineering hack on the forum recently.


he didn't express any confusion Undecided he posted his useless and insubstantial reply . a normal human would ask (if him doesn't understand) but amph replied without perceived the op's question .

actually i perceived more than the other, it was pretty obvious to me

you should keep your random hatred for me, to yourself(not that i care...) and stop this non-sense crusade

good night...
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June 02, 2015, 01:42:22 PM
#26

I've seen that thread and it's kinda hard to understand what exactly OP was asking. Others in that thread have also expressed confusion about the question as well:

what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

What crimes are you referring to?  This is kinda very very broad and could be a lot of topis.  So hard to even give an anwser.

Like crimes btc is used  in?  Crimes when its stolen?  All depends which one.

what mechanisms should here have to prevent criminal actions?

What crimes are you referring to?  This is kinda very very broad and could be a lot of topis.  So hard to even give an anwser.

Like crimes btc is used  in?  Crimes when its stolen?  All depends which one.

Exactly, OP isnt providing enough information here to get an answer they're looking for; are we talking real life or on this forum in general? One real life example I can think of is requiring cryptography to prove your identity; could've come in handy with the social engineering hack on the forum recently.


he didn't express any confusion Undecided he posted his useless and insubstantial reply . a normal human would ask (if him doesn't understand) but amph replied without perceived the op's question .
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