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Quote from: Agbe on Today at 01:41:17 PM

You can't tell people not stop gambling with slots games. We have different luck and if it didn't favour you, it doesn't mean that it will not favour another gambler. Normally I play slot machine games for fun and in the process if I wins then I take and if I loss I leave. No stress on that. This has been discussed here in the time past. Casino games are already programmed games but you can only win by luck. And that is why the house always win. Slot, crash and spin games are all the same. And the winning confidence is on sport games. In sport game you have the full confidence to use your skills, technics by analyzing the previous matches of the teams, the squad and other elements to bet the game.

That is what most people are missing, the slot machines based on luck should make you win sometime and not make you lose for months consecutively which is happening not to me only but also many more other people. That is why I wanted to share this advice so maybe the reflect as most of them are here as members that play a lot in the casino mentioned here and many other casinos. Luck should come to players some times but in the year 2024 everyone is complaining, I don't remember anyone complaining in the years 2020-2023 as all people were losing normally and also winning normally it was a very much balanced world between winning and losing, of course losing being the most part of it, now though is completely different and it is not balanced at all, slots are not programmed the same anymore and that is the message I wanna send with this thread.

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Regardless, slot games are the most draining, mentally and money in your wallet in the end because with some situations that occur we certainly know that the level of luck you have in Slot is actually much less (for me) when compared to other games regardless of the RTP.

In fact, it is not wrong if we play just because we like the display and good visual vision in a game because slots cannot be denied to be one of the games with good visuals to watch, it's just that in the end it doesn't have any impact and I have also left this game for a long time because even though there are advantages but I feel that this is still not too worth it when compared to other games such as contemporary dice games, plinko or at the sportsbook.

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You can't tell people not stop gambling with slots games. We have different luck and if it didn't favour you, it doesn't mean that it will not favour another gambler. Normally I play slot machine games for fun and in the process if I wins then I take and if I loss I leave. No stress on that. This has been discussed here in the time past. Casino games are already programmed games but you can only win by luck. And that is why the house always win. Slot, crash and spin games are all the same. And the winning confidence is on sport games. In sport game you have the full confidence to use your skills, technics by analyzing the previous matches of the teams, the squad and other elements to bet the game.

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Quote from: Vaculin on Today at 11:17:16 AM

What do you expect from playing slots? You can never predict a positive outcome from slot machines. And here comes bonuses who never even give players the chances to win. It’s only the word bonus that is tempting, but never the process that comes with it. Regardless of what kind of slot provider you’ve chose, slots have only one goal, to spin and lose, as winning is very rare to happen especially if you have passed winning streak on your first game.

This is something that you should really be having in mind is on that you shouldnt really be expecting something that comes on playing slots on which we know that when it comes to odds or chances on winning then only luck factor will really be the main reason on where you could really be able to pull it off but most of the time on which a particular gambler will really be having that less chance
in speaking about winning up something significant. This is why its really that important that on the moment that you do play up slots then dont expect something positive but rather
the opposite one, just enjoy up the game and if it turns out to have some win then thats a bonus but if not then it just simply move on.

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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

I can understand them as I have been in their pants as that saying says, so please stop wasting money on slots.

Most people that are gambling, including betting on sport and other means of betting, are not making money than they are losing. So your advice is not really genuine because people are gambling not to exactly make money in their reality even if they have the intention, that is not what is happening in real life. If you love your money, do not use it to gamble. Use the one that you can afford to lose to gamble.

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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

As you know I don't gamble in slot machines anymore with my own money except money left from the bonus I keep getting because of my sport betting activity and that is the best thing that has ever happened to me. Therefore I decided to conduct a small experiment as you know I like to do that and though I always try in Pragmatic Play provider (the most shittiest provider ever ever ever) it is the same in many other providers. I was playing with my weekly bonus the game of Candy Blitz Boom which is so called enhanced RTP and a Stake casino exclusive only to find out that the bonus did come after more than 1000 spins and this is not normal behavior and most external auditors will not let you pass the slot to production if you don't have at least 1 in 750 spins a bonus round as average. Just wanted to share this advice to fellow gamblers so you are aware what waits you, I have seen the chat feel very sad in most casinos and they don't take it very well the loss, I can understand them as I have been in their pants as that saying says, so please stop wasting money on slots.

Your findings really does makes a whole lot of sense but it's never a waste of money for almost everyone but for some it's a thing they love to try because they believe one day would be their lucky day but for those who loose funds at some point do feel its not a good one to attempt but on the other hand some persons continually make good funds off this dame games.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on Today at 12:38:06 PM

Slots games are usually not in favour on anyone sometimes you tend to put in more money to get bigger wins but then you end up loosing more to the casino, so definitely every gambler ought to know that and more so your advice to gamblers seems like an already programmed caution to anyone gambling especially in slots games.

The best advice to gamblers who often play slot games and have been getting same results with more losses should be that they always stick to or use a budget and try to understand the game by only gambling with casinos who have a higher RTP or not at all.
I also think it is best to gamble on games, slots inclusive, that have little or no effect on ones emotional state. Ultimately, it would be a great idea to choose other games or limit the rate at which one gambles on slot.

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You are hurt and I get it. It's normal. I have been in the same position but I never share it. Do you know why? Because I knew the risk I had taken before I made the bet.
Slot games are the most volatile games and you cannot expect anything after a few hundred bets. It takes thousands or hundreds of thousands before you will receive the RTP and it will probably be best if you do not expect anything.
You are angry, it's normal. But what can you do next? That's the question you will have to ask yourself and the choice is to quit or chase the losses. I go with the former because that's the wisest thing to do.

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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

As you know I don't gamble in slot machines anymore with my own money except money left from the bonus I keep getting because of my sport betting activity and that is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Slots games are usually not in favour on anyone sometimes you tend to put in more money to get bigger wins but then you end up loosing more to the casino, so definitely every gambler ought to know that and more so your advice to gamblers seems like an already programmed caution to anyone gambling especially in slots games.

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Quote from: stompix on Today at 11:35:33 AM

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Personally I have learned to read the numbers and when someone clearly sits down in a calm way to read the numbers it is a sure thing that they will quit playing slot machines, average is a nice term trying to cheat persons as the example you say there, the average is not based on luck but on statistics and if statistics do not hit then the other party is lying in this case the casino, someone has to expose them for the level of super sophisticated cheating system they are using, of course this is normal happening for most people though not for me, I wanna see the numbers fit in otherwise I am being robbed.

Well, this is the thing about statistics, if you want to prove them wrong, you will need more than one day of playing.
As I said, in slots you can't win, that's the thing, in the short interval you can make x10, in the long term when playing for hundreds of thousands of $ and millions of spins there is no way you will win, but to prove they are fudging the numbers you will need a far longer period of time and far more spins than this, randomness is a bitch, I saw a day in which 12 of 13 under 1.5 odds favorites lost in horse racing, I never encounter more than 20% yet it did happen.
So you can go to your casino provider, download your history, check the numbers on the wins and losses and how much you've played, and if it's really outside their RTP by a huge margin then something might be wrong, but not on just on a day stats.

In my opinion, I see no reason for them to cheat that bad, after all giving you wins will only encourage you to play more, slicing with each turnover the same share of the pie as if they would do by cheating you.

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Well, it is a fact that games that depend on luck are not easy to hit big wins and that the house will always be at an advantage and the player will be at a disadvantage, so it should not be a big surprise to see some rare scenario where a player plays and even after many spins he is not lucky enough to win something. Of course this is somewhat annoying, I myself a few days ago went to test playing a game that depends on luck, I spent 10 minutes playing and when I won it was a very low amount and then many spins went by and I lost and until I lost all my $6 and stopped playing.

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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

I can understand them as I have been in their pants as that saying says, so please stop wasting money on slots.

I also feel it, slot games cost a lot of money. The winnings obtained will not be greater than what we deposit. What makes slot games interesting is the visuals and audio that make gamblers want to keep spinning.
Now I bet more often on sports betting. I'm not saying it's profitable, but the results can still be accepted when the results of the match do not match our predictions.

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Quote from: stompix on Today at 11:35:33 AM

Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

I was playing with my weekly bonus the game of Candy Blitz Boom which is so called enhanced RTP and a Stake casino exclusive only to find out that the bonus did come after more than 1000 spins and this is not normal behavior and most external auditors will not let you pass the slot to production if you don't have at least 1 in 750 spins a bonus round as average.

Average, the keyword is average!
You can be unlucky and not hit a jackpot in 10 000 not 1 000 spins, some other guy hits 20 jackpots in 5 000 spins, the average is still 750:1.
Still surprised people don't realize that those numbers are not meant to be set in stone for everyone, if you're really unlucky you will never hit one for a week, it doesn't mean the average is not there!

Quote from: swogerino on Today at 11:06:40 AM

I have 0 stress, just want to show to fellow gamblers as it is impossible almost to win in gambling and to know their chances,

Not gambling, slots, on the long run it's impossible to win in slots, not in all of gambling, slots and sports betting are completely different.

I agree with the average but I have experienced it for months so the word average does not really fits in there. The horrors that the year 2024 has introduced in slot machines has no comparison with other gambling games and that is enough reason to post this. Personally I have learned to read the numbers and when someone clearly sits down in a calm way to read the numbers it is a sure thing that they will quit playing slot machines, average is a nice term trying to cheat persons as the example you say there, the average is not based on luck but on statistics and if statistics do not hit then the other party is lying in this case the casino, someone has to expose them for the level of super sophisticated cheating system they are using, of course this is normal happening for most people though not for me, I wanna see the numbers fit in otherwise I am being robbed. The fact that thousand other people are experiencing the same as me in this very casino makes me think I am totally correct on my views here.

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Quote from: Vaculin on Today at 11:17:16 AM

What do you expect from playing slots? You can never predict a positive outcome from slot machines. And here comes bonuses who never even give players the chances to win. It’s only the word bonus that is tempting, but never the process that comes with it. Regardless of what kind of slot provider you’ve chose, slots have only one goal, to spin and lose, as winning is very rare to happen especially if you have passed winning streak on your first game.

It’s gambling. There’s no such thing as “never give chance to win” since it’s luck based. You can win/lose depending on your luck. It’s up to the player if they will stop and take profit once they hit the win.

The reason why almost all gambler loss despite experiencing some win in the game is because they never stop gambling even if they are on profit. It’s not about the gambling games specifically slot games always result to lose rather most player choose to continuously play that obviously result to lose due to the house edge.

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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

I was playing with my weekly bonus the game of Candy Blitz Boom which is so called enhanced RTP and a Stake casino exclusive only to find out that the bonus did come after more than 1000 spins and this is not normal behavior and most external auditors will not let you pass the slot to production if you don't have at least 1 in 750 spins a bonus round as average.

Average, the keyword is average!
You can be unlucky and not hit a jackpot in 10 000 not 1 000 spins, some other guy hits 20 jackpots in 5 000 spins, the average is still 750:1.
Still surprised people don't realize that those numbers are not meant to be set in stone for everyone, if you're really unlucky you will never hit one for a week, it doesn't mean the average is not there!

Quote from: swogerino on Today at 11:06:40 AM

I have 0 stress, just want to show to fellow gamblers as it is impossible almost to win in gambling and to know their chances,

Not gambling, slots, on the long run it's impossible to win in slots, not in all of gambling, slots and sports betting are completely different.

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Perhaps if the upcoming upgrade of slot games come with odds just like sports betting offer then gamblers would experience better rewards, but this is not possible.
I also don't like to rely on bonuses many of the times because the casino management is responsible for how they tweak their machines and guess what, it is always in their favor.
Rather than complain about their fairness, it is always better to try out other casinos or just quit or change gambling games.

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This advice is about avoiding playing slots with your own money and only using bonuses. But are you able to do that without making a deposit if you're addicted enough to keep playing.

Slots are really a game that is initially good and then becomes a game that will rob you of everything you have.
This is just a game for entertainment and of course don't make a big deposit just for slot games which even it is illegal, and it is not clear how the system and the RTP are.

Quote from: mindrust on Today at 10:56:54 AM

I guess sports is the only game a gambler can actually win.

As @mindrust said, it is better to place bets on sports games because it is more realistic and of course requires analysis on the team playing.
people will make money from those bets, and it is not as risky as slot games that are only set up by machines that are tuned in such a way that you keep losing.

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Quote from: Vaculin on Today at 11:17:16 AM

What do you expect from playing slots? You can never predict a positive outcome from slot machines. And here comes bonuses who never even give players the chances to win. It’s only the word bonus that is tempting, but never the process that comes with it. Regardless of what kind of slot provider you’ve chose, slots have only one goal, to spin and lose, as winning is very rare to happen especially if you have passed winning streak on your first game.

That is exactly the advice I am trying to give here and I am glad that there are other people who see this truth and don't throw away their money in slot machines. Most people though are playing constantly trying to recover lost money session after session and they get burned even further. Not longer than yesterday night when I was coming back from a walk with family saw desperate people outside the biggest casino in town and they were yelling at phone as they needed more money to gamble while their relatives were also heard yelling to them and that scene caught my eye, it was another reason I started to make this post and hope this reaches many people who do know how to read the numbers, only such people can save themselves from the destruction of slot machines.

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What do you expect from playing slots? You can never predict a positive outcome from slot machines. And here comes bonuses who never even give players the chances to win. It’s only the word bonus that is tempting, but never the process that comes with it. Regardless of what kind of slot provider you’ve chose, slots have only one goal, to spin and lose, as winning is very rare to happen especially if you have passed winning streak on your first game.

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Quote from: Beparanf on Today at 11:00:39 AM

Your picture showing a win is a bit contradictory to the real lesson you are sharing in your post. But you have a total right to feel disappointed because hitting bonus on 1000 spin is surely a terrific luck since you should just purchase bonus buy which is just equivalent to 100 spin instead of spending 1000 spin for the same bonus round.

I’m biased on Pragmatic Play since I experienced a huge win before on this provider multiple times with just a couple of bonus buy.

I think you should try different provider instead of keep playing on slot provider that gives you stress.

I have 0 stress, just want to show to fellow gamblers as it is impossible almost to win in gambling and to know their chances, I have already provide other experiment from other game like Rabbit Garden for the buy bonus which is even worse as I experienced an 17 consecutive lost buy bonuses or translated in multiplier average of x1500 my bet during all those lost games. I am very calm as I don't gamble with my own money anymore, I learned the lesson exactly from the statistics page and sat down to think cold headed which lead me to the conclusion that going to play slots is totally not giving a win even a max win won't cover your losses on the long run and since I saw many people sad decided to make this post to make other gamblers aware, of course those who do want to see the numbers for what they are for real and not for what these people desire.

I have tried Hacksaw gaming, Nolimitcity and other providers and the results are the same, not only in one casino but most of them.

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