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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

I can understand them as I have been in their pants as that saying says, so please stop wasting money on slots.

I also feel it, slot games cost a lot of money. The winnings obtained will not be greater than what we deposit. What makes slot games interesting is the visuals and audio that make gamblers want to keep spinning.
Now I bet more often on sports betting. I'm not saying it's profitable, but the results can still be accepted when the results of the match do not match our predictions.

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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

I was playing with my weekly bonus the game of Candy Blitz Boom which is so called enhanced RTP and a Stake casino exclusive only to find out that the bonus did come after more than 1000 spins and this is not normal behavior and most external auditors will not let you pass the slot to production if you don't have at least 1 in 750 spins a bonus round as average.

Average, the keyword is average!
You can be unlucky and not hit a jackpot in 10 000 not 1 000 spins, some other guy hits 20 jackpots in 5 000 spins, the average is still 750:1.
Still surprised people don't realize that those numbers are not meant to be set in stone for everyone, if you're really unlucky you will never hit one for a week, it doesn't mean the average is not there!

Quote from: swogerino on Today at 11:06:40 AM

I have 0 stress, just want to show to fellow gamblers as it is impossible almost to win in gambling and to know their chances,

Not gambling, slots, on the long run it's impossible to win in slots, not in all of gambling, slots and sports betting are completely different.

I agree with the average but I have experienced it for months so the word average does not really fits in there. The horrors that the year 2024 has introduced in slot machines has no comparison with other gambling games and that is enough reason to post this. Personally I have learned to read the numbers and when someone clearly sits down in a calm way to read the numbers it is a sure thing that they will quit playing slot machines, average is a nice term trying to cheat persons as the example you say there, the average is not based on luck but on statistics and if statistics do not hit then the other party is lying in this case the casino, someone has to expose them for the level of super sophisticated cheating system they are using, of course this is normal happening for most people though not for me, I wanna see the numbers fit in otherwise I am being robbed. The fact that thousand other people are experiencing the same as me in this very casino makes me think I am totally correct on my views here.

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Quote from: Vaculin on Today at 11:17:16 AM

What do you expect from playing slots? You can never predict a positive outcome from slot machines. And here comes bonuses who never even give players the chances to win. It’s only the word bonus that is tempting, but never the process that comes with it. Regardless of what kind of slot provider you’ve chose, slots have only one goal, to spin and lose, as winning is very rare to happen especially if you have passed winning streak on your first game.

It’s gambling. There’s no such thing as “never give chance to win” since it’s luck based. You can win/lose depending on your luck. It’s up to the player if they will stop and take profit once they hit the win.

The reason why almost all gambler loss despite experiencing some win in the game is because they never stop gambling even if they are on profit. It’s not about the gambling games specifically slot games always result to lose rather most player choose to continuously play that obviously result to lose due to the house edge.

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Quote from: swogerino on Today at 10:49:21 AM

I was playing with my weekly bonus the game of Candy Blitz Boom which is so called enhanced RTP and a Stake casino exclusive only to find out that the bonus did come after more than 1000 spins and this is not normal behavior and most external auditors will not let you pass the slot to production if you don't have at least 1 in 750 spins a bonus round as average.

Average, the keyword is average!
You can be unlucky and not hit a jackpot in 10 000 not 1 000 spins, some other guy hits 20 jackpots in 5 000 spins, the average is still 750:1.
Still surprised people don't realize that those numbers are not meant to be set in stone for everyone, if you're really unlucky you will never hit one for a week, it doesn't mean the average is not there!

Quote from: swogerino on Today at 11:06:40 AM

I have 0 stress, just want to show to fellow gamblers as it is impossible almost to win in gambling and to know their chances,

Not gambling, slots, on the long run it's impossible to win in slots, not in all of gambling, slots and sports betting are completely different.

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Perhaps if the upcoming upgrade of slot games come with odds just like sports betting offer then gamblers would experience better rewards, but this is not possible.
I also don't like to rely on bonuses many of the times because the casino management is responsible for how they tweak their machines and guess what, it is always in their favor.
Rather than complain about their fairness, it is always better to try out other casinos or just quit or change gambling games.

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This advice is about avoiding playing slots with your own money and only using bonuses. But are you able to do that without making a deposit if you're addicted enough to keep playing.

Slots are really a game that is initially good and then becomes a game that will rob you of everything you have.
This is just a game for entertainment and of course don't make a big deposit just for slot games which even it is illegal, and it is not clear how the system and the RTP are.

Quote from: mindrust on Today at 10:56:54 AM

I guess sports is the only game a gambler can actually win.

As @mindrust said, it is better to place bets on sports games because it is more realistic and of course requires analysis on the team playing.
people will make money from those bets, and it is not as risky as slot games that are only set up by machines that are tuned in such a way that you keep losing.

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Quote from: Vaculin on Today at 11:17:16 AM

What do you expect from playing slots? You can never predict a positive outcome from slot machines. And here comes bonuses who never even give players the chances to win. It’s only the word bonus that is tempting, but never the process that comes with it. Regardless of what kind of slot provider you’ve chose, slots have only one goal, to spin and lose, as winning is very rare to happen especially if you have passed winning streak on your first game.

That is exactly the advice I am trying to give here and I am glad that there are other people who see this truth and don't throw away their money in slot machines. Most people though are playing constantly trying to recover lost money session after session and they get burned even further. Not longer than yesterday night when I was coming back from a walk with family saw desperate people outside the biggest casino in town and they were yelling at phone as they needed more money to gamble while their relatives were also heard yelling to them and that scene caught my eye, it was another reason I started to make this post and hope this reaches many people who do know how to read the numbers, only such people can save themselves from the destruction of slot machines.

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What do you expect from playing slots? You can never predict a positive outcome from slot machines. And here comes bonuses who never even give players the chances to win. It’s only the word bonus that is tempting, but never the process that comes with it. Regardless of what kind of slot provider you’ve chose, slots have only one goal, to spin and lose, as winning is very rare to happen especially if you have passed winning streak on your first game.

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Quote from: Beparanf on Today at 11:00:39 AM

Your picture showing a win is a bit contradictory to the real lesson you are sharing in your post. But you have a total right to feel disappointed because hitting bonus on 1000 spin is surely a terrific luck since you should just purchase bonus buy which is just equivalent to 100 spin instead of spending 1000 spin for the same bonus round.

I’m biased on Pragmatic Play since I experienced a huge win before on this provider multiple times with just a couple of bonus buy.

I think you should try different provider instead of keep playing on slot provider that gives you stress.

I have 0 stress, just want to show to fellow gamblers as it is impossible almost to win in gambling and to know their chances, I have already provide other experiment from other game like Rabbit Garden for the buy bonus which is even worse as I experienced an 17 consecutive lost buy bonuses or translated in multiplier average of x1500 my bet during all those lost games. I am very calm as I don't gamble with my own money anymore, I learned the lesson exactly from the statistics page and sat down to think cold headed which lead me to the conclusion that going to play slots is totally not giving a win even a max win won't cover your losses on the long run and since I saw many people sad decided to make this post to make other gamblers aware, of course those who do want to see the numbers for what they are for real and not for what these people desire.

I have tried Hacksaw gaming, Nolimitcity and other providers and the results are the same, not only in one casino but most of them.

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I was surprised by this stats as well. It shows that the odds are definitely not in the favour of the player. The house must always win one way or the other. One other thing is that when I see these type of reports, I tend to ask if the player has tried slots on any other provider or casino and has experienced this too. I also tend to think that it is exclusive to one casino or provider , I mean the win rate.

Quote from: mindrust on Today at 10:56:54 AM

I guess sports is the only game a gambler can actually win.

I agree with you because unlike slots that the result is already programmed from the moment the player hits play, sports bet is not like that. There are different bet options that the sports bettor can bet on and still have an advantage unless they decide to be greedy and end up losing everything.

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Your picture showing a win is a bit contradictory to the real lesson you are sharing in your post. But you have a total right to feel disappointed because hitting bonus on 1000 spin is surely a terrific luck since you should just purchase bonus buy which is just equivalent to 100 spin instead of spending 1000 spin for the same bonus round.

I’m biased on Pragmatic Play since I experienced a huge win before on this provider multiple times with just a couple of bonus buy.

I think you should try different provider instead of keep playing on slot provider that gives you stress.

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Wow these stats are abysmal. Have you played dice (50% chance to win) or similar game there? I wonder what are their stats. I am not much familiar with slots but the screenshot provided says you'll lose 90% of every game you play. That's disgusting if true. However what is the prize for having that kind of risk? Do they pay x10 of your wager if you win? Even close? If so, I'd say it is a fair deal but it is probably not the case. Then it makes zero sense to play slots on this casino.

I guess sports is the only game a gambler can actually win.

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As you know I don't gamble in slot machines anymore with my own money except money left from the bonus I keep getting because of my sport betting activity and that is the best thing that has ever happened to me. Therefore I decided to conduct a small experiment as you know I like to do that and though I always try in Pragmatic Play provider (the most shittiest provider ever ever ever) it is the same in many other providers. I was playing with my weekly bonus the game of Candy Blitz Boom which is so called enhanced RTP and a Stake casino exclusive only to find out that the bonus did come after more than 1000 spins and this is not normal behavior and most external auditors will not let you pass the slot to production if you don't have at least 1 in 750 spins a bonus round as average. Just wanted to share this advice to fellow gamblers so you are aware what waits you, I have seen the chat feel very sad in most casinos and they don't take it very well the loss, I can understand them as I have been in their pants as that saying says, so please stop wasting money on slots.

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