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legendary
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March 23, 2021, 01:22:42 AM
#44
I thought the Indians that you were talking about are those that are in India, I hope that you will change that to Native Americans because there is some confusion. Hopefully, they are going to become a successful casino but considering that Americans have a prejudice towards these people, I think that they are going to have a problem but if they persevere, they might be able to becoming an established casino. By the way aren't there a limit as to how many casinos there is in a city?

There are some legal issues, and it has nothing to do with prejudice. First of all, the tribe needs license from the state government to operate a casino. And the state government has refused to give permission, because the tribe in question (Shinnecock Indian Nation) is not recognized by the state government, although it is federally recognized. The state government believe that they are faking the indigenous identity, just to get permission to operate the casino (in the state of New York, casinos are not permitted outside Indian reservations).
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March 23, 2021, 12:51:37 AM
#43
I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).
Those kind of casinos are very common on the US, but there is nothing different on what they offer, most of the time unless you are explicitly told a casino belongs to Native Americans you will never know, it is interesting to see the graph and see those casinos are generating so much profits, if I was asked about it without looking at the graph I would have thought those casinos only generated a small amount of revenue but it seems they are slowly overtaking regular casinos.
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March 23, 2021, 12:45:22 AM
#42
I thought the Indians that you were talking about are those that are in India, I hope that you will change that to Native Americans because there is some confusion. Hopefully, they are going to become a successful casino but considering that Americans have a prejudice towards these people, I think that they are going to have a problem but if they persevere, they might be able to becoming an established casino. By the way aren't there a limit as to how many casinos there is in a city?
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March 22, 2021, 06:55:51 PM
#41
I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?

Its basically down to tax laws and so on, same reason a territory is significantly different to a US state and many live the majority of their time there for the tax benefits.   I dont know their character is especially different, its done for the legal advantages that they possess.

Canada has the same deal, anywhere laws might vary its a thing.  Gambling boats used to be a thing, they sail into international waters and play the game legally that way but I've no idea how viable each idea is right now as it varies over time and I thought USA has loosened up slightly.

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controversial due to the opposition of the locals.
I can understand religious reasons but that means you dont partake personally.  Do casinos cause any crime or negatives to a community really, so long as the management works to exclude those with some kind of problem gambling its just gaming imo.
legendary
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March 22, 2021, 06:22:39 PM
#40
I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).
It's weird from a gambler like you to have never heard of Native American casinos before. They are famous all over the world yet.
Because of the legal status of indian reservations, native americans avoid many strict regulations applying elsewhere, so they took this opportunity to open casinos on their territories and to earn money with it.  
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March 22, 2021, 05:35:16 PM
#39
If they as natives have something different, something better to offer at their casinos, they may see a good number of gamblers gathering at their venue. Are these Indians allowed licenses to operate such casinos over there as they live on reservations? What is the cost of such a license and if a native Indian wants to invest, is there any law that allows him to do so. I have an Indian friend who will soon be visiting USA and is thinking of opening a casino there and has very sound financial background.
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March 22, 2021, 05:28:32 PM
#38
This could help bring money and funding back to the Natives who literally have been robbed of their land and pride as bonafide Americans. Hopefully though no racial discrimination is to happen while they are in operation as that will be a huge punch to the gut for these poor fellows. Haven't personally been to an Indian casino but then again, I'm going to guess that it's just like our regular ones except owned by native Americans.
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March 21, 2021, 03:26:47 AM
#37
The ancient Indians (Maya and Inca) had many very interesting gambling games, but they are undeservedly forgotten.  

The dice of the Incas were not like little cubes.  They were pyramidal and could rotate.  Dots were drawn on their faces (flat surfaces), as well as on modern bones.  The game itself was a mixture of roulette, dice and racing.  

The Mayans were betting on the victory of one or another team in the ball game. There was a tradition - the players of the losing team were sacrificed.

Modern casinos, controlled by the indigenous people of North America (Indians), are ordinary casinos with the most common gambling games - roulette, poker, dice, slot machines, etc.
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March 21, 2021, 02:54:31 AM
#36
I have never been to an Indian casino before but I am familiar with them because I live in a state where there are several Indian tribes.

The type of casino they are trying to open in the Hamptons is a class II facility which does not require state or federal approval so I don't think there is nothing that local residents can do to prevent this from happening.

If it falls to that classification then they should fight for their rights to run this casino, they already spent a lot of money, this will discourage people from investing if they are not allowed to continue the operation, it should be stopped if they violate laws on running casinos but since they are a class II facility which does not require state or federal approval, they should allow to operate.
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March 20, 2021, 11:30:43 PM
#35
Honestly the Government of India does not allow such things therefore at the end of the day indians are always a step behind the casino businesses. Therefore most of the locals are unsure about the casino being opened by an Indian. But I do think that they have to thoroughly research on this topic and then again maybe talk with the local community about their nuances. Why are are against this?Any business is a big part of the community it establishes itself into therefore they have to make sure to resolve everything before it gets going. But rest it's good to see the idea of a Casino By Road. This would be different and might serve as a good timepass for people who don't have much time to go to a particular casino since it would be very convenient to reach.
Ofcourse the Indian casino would be similar to other casinos lol , don't even know why people are worried if that might be the same but if they did decide to put a splash of Indian culture in that casino that would be extremely amazing since long before everything Gambling was pretty predominant and extravagant. It would be wonderful if the casino was made as a "Mahal" ( palace) that would be amazing and a place that people would come and visit. They have to make sure to ask a question to themselves "how would this casino be different from others"

This has to be the worst reply that I have ever read in Bitcointalk. Dude doesn't know the difference between Indians from India and the native American Indians from the United States. 592 merit points? Seriously? Someone need to take a look in to how he got this many merit points for such replies. Anyway, I don't expect him to be aware of the fact that apart from Nevada, only Indian reservations are allowed to operate casinos. That is the "difference" here.
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March 20, 2021, 11:25:20 PM
#34
I have never been to an Indian casino before but I am familiar with them because I live in a state where there are several Indian tribes.

The type of casino they are trying to open in the Hamptons is a class II facility which does not require state or federal approval so I don't think there is nothing that local residents can do to prevent this from happening.
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March 20, 2021, 10:52:17 PM
#33
Especially if you compare the earnings to indian country, it could be a big step for people. getting the usa nationality is not so easy on the other hand.

There are lot of Indians in USA and i won't be surprised if few Indians are running the casino and gambling houses in the US. Also most casino do not specify which country do they belong, so in that case we may now know the casino we are playing actually owned by an Indian.
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March 20, 2021, 10:26:53 PM
#32
I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
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You must be joking Of course there are Indian casinos. It's a very big thing in the United States. In fact. If you look closely at the at the graph in the original post, you will see that their revenue is growing year on year. On the usual Las Vegas style, casinos are in fact lowering in revenue, so. Just take a look and I think your question. Is already answered.
It shouldn't be that rare for some people to not know of it tbh, it's not like their existence is being broadcasted all over the world. I just hope that they have a unique difference from regular casinos so that they can take their place, otherwise they'd just turn into your regular old casino that can be found anywhere.
No matter what, that casino still a casino to the gamblers. If they like to play on that casino because of the uniqueness of the place or served better than the other casino, people or gamblers will still play on that casino. That casino needs to compete with the other casino, especially for the casino that already has a name in the gamblers, and that is not easy.
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March 20, 2021, 09:54:03 PM
#31
Honestly the Government of India does not allow such things therefore at the end of the day indians are always a step behind the casino businesses. Therefore most of the locals are unsure about the casino being opened by an Indian. But I do think that they have to thoroughly research on this topic and then again maybe talk with the local community about their nuances. Why are are against this?Any business is a big part of the community it establishes itself into therefore they have to make sure to resolve everything before it gets going. But rest it's good to see the idea of a Casino By Road. This would be different and might serve as a good timepass for people who don't have much time to go to a particular casino since it would be very convenient to reach.
Ofcourse the Indian casino would be similar to other casinos lol , don't even know why people are worried if that might be the same but if they did decide to put a splash of Indian culture in that casino that would be extremely amazing since long before everything Gambling was pretty predominant and extravagant. It would be wonderful if the casino was made as a "Mahal" ( palace) that would be amazing and a place that people would come and visit. They have to make sure to ask a question to themselves "how would this casino be different from others"
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March 20, 2021, 06:47:45 PM
#30
Gaming is a major source of income for Indians living in reservations and has provided an increase in income for them, however this development is - as it could not be otherwise - controversial due to the opposition of the locals.
I was thinking the real people from India was running casino when i read the headlines. Some stupid peoples while traveling completely failed to identify people and they are yet to rectify their mistakes. They are the real people of America, so identify them as the origins rather than still showing how dumb people can be  Cheesy.

I heard about casino's run by these people and the government funds them and they wont be having any restrictions like the others because they are the real natives and the foreigners giving them the full freedom  Cheesy.
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March 20, 2021, 03:20:07 PM
#29
When you think of the Hamptons in USA, you are likely to picture a leafy area, close to the beach with nice uber-houses of the well-to-do and wealthy people of NY. However the sacred land of the Shinnecock Nation lays right around the corner, 90 miles from Manhattan and with an extension of 365 hectare (900 acres if you prefer) and they are about to open a casino by the road.

Gaming is a major source of income for Indians living in reservations and has provided an increase in income for them, however this development is - as it could not be otherwise - controversial due to the opposition of the locals.

The American Gaming Association estimates a positive impact of 100 Billion a year as of today with a constant growth in the past decades.

Have you ever been on an Indian casino? Good experience?


I haven't played in an Indian casino yet. So far I was only in Las Vegas in casinos in the states. Most of them were large casinos which are not run by Indians. In my opinion it's a good idea that Indians make a decent profit of gambling. They lost a lot of land over the last few hundreds of years and didn't get a good deal from the government. Having the chance to make some of the money back by casino profits is good. Next time I will go gambling I will go and try out the Indian casinos, expecting for them to be similar to the other casinos though. 
legendary
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March 20, 2021, 08:37:46 AM
#28
Especially if you compare the earnings to indian country, it could be a big step for people. getting the usa nationality is not so easy on the other hand.
huh? what are you talking about? the thread is talking about native Americans which is called Indian.

I have been in the gambling world for a long time, but I just heard that there is an Indian casino. What is the difference with casinos in general,
or the same as the casino in Las Vegas.
game-wise they are basically the same as the other casino not owned by a native american but you might see some native American furniture designs etc.. on an Indian casino. other than that a casino owned by a non-native is the same as those who are owned by a native American.
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March 20, 2021, 06:42:55 AM
#27
I have been in the gambling world for a long time, but I just heard that there is an Indian casino. What is the difference with casinos in general,
or the same as the casino in Las Vegas. But seeing the income generated by Indian casinos is staggering, based on existing data in the opening post
from 1990 to 2012 it continues to increase. This can be a good income for the native american who owns the Indian casino. If there is time I will try
to play Indian casino online.
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March 20, 2021, 05:50:12 AM
#26
Especially if you compare the earnings to indian country, it could be a big step for people. getting the usa nationality is not so easy on the other hand.
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March 20, 2021, 05:04:38 AM
#25
When you think of the Hamptons in USA, you are likely to picture a leafy area, close to the beach with nice uber-houses of the well-to-do and wealthy people of NY. However the sacred land of the Shinnecock Nation lays right around the corner, 90 miles from Manhattan and with an extension of 365 hectare (900 acres if you prefer) and they are about to open a casino by the road.

Gaming is a major source of income for Indians living in reservations and has provided an increase in income for them, however this development is - as it could not be otherwise - controversial due to the opposition of the locals.

The American Gaming Association estimates a positive impact of 100 Billion a year as of today with a constant growth in the past decades.



Have you ever been on an Indian casino? Good experience?


Is there any Indian Casino that has been introduced Here in Forum ? do they have a Crypto site from indian casinos ?
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