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March 20, 2021, 03:43:12 AM
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your right that they shouldnt build the casnino yet if they are not sure that they can get the necesary requirements/permit but before i think i know some business that already operate without a permit but that is risky because they are considered as illegal and if they will caught without a permit they arent just going to pay but they will get banned .

They should give them a chance not only billionaires these are a group of ethnic people who just want to make their niche in the gambling industry, but they also should not withheld their license, they already spent millions of dollars and they deserve to get profit a democratic government, I don't see any reason why they should not have a license since it's not illegal in the US.
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March 20, 2021, 01:32:00 AM
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I don't think indian casinos even have that much of a difference between other casinos. I looked up a bit and didn't really see anything unique to it. Who knows, some might have even gone in on one of those establishments but never really realized it since there isn't much to take note of that could differentiate it from others. I am however interested in it, thought it may take some time for me to even purposely visit one (if I can)
I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
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You must be joking Of course there are Indian casinos. It's a very big thing in the United States. In fact. If you look closely at the at the graph in the original post, you will see that their revenue is growing year on year. On the usual Las Vegas style, casinos are in fact lowering in revenue, so. Just take a look and I think your question. Is already answered.
It shouldn't be that rare for some people to not know of it tbh, it's not like their existence is being broadcasted all over the world. I just hope that they have a unique difference from regular casinos so that they can take their place, otherwise they'd just turn into your regular old casino that can be found anywhere.

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March 19, 2021, 09:43:37 PM
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If they setup a casino at that particular location, then the revenue generation is going to be huge. But the last time I heard, the state authorities are not permitting them to start the casino operations. The tribe and their partners have spent more than a million USD in lobbying for the casino, but till now they haven't got the necessary permits to start operations.
It's a total waste of money if they did not allow it to operate, it will become a white elephant, they should get all the necessary permit first before building the casinos, this is a bad way to lose in a business, everything are all set up for operation then you don't have a permit to operate, the permit should come first, it's the one of the most important thing besides the funding.
every business has a risk and they can loose if the bussiness didnt go well but thats fine to loose when you are already running for some time but in their case they havent started yet and they already loose , thats pretty awful to hear .

your right that they shouldnt build the casnino yet if they are not sure that they can get the necesary requirements/permit but before i think i know some business that already operate without a permit but that is risky because they are considered as illegal and if they will caught without a permit they arent just going to pay but they will get banned .
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March 19, 2021, 06:48:31 PM
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If they setup a casino at that particular location, then the revenue generation is going to be huge. But the last time I heard, the state authorities are not permitting them to start the casino operations. The tribe and their partners have spent more than a million USD in lobbying for the casino, but till now they haven't got the necessary permits to start operations.

It's a total waste of money if they did not allow it to operate, it will become a white elephant, they should get all the necessary permit first before building the casinos, this is a bad way to lose in a business, everything are all set up for operation then you don't have a permit to operate, the permit should come first, it's the one of the most important thing besides the funding.
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March 19, 2021, 06:35:24 PM
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Remember when new york lawmakers took years to finally legalize mixed martial arts in the state? Heavily regulated states like new york move glacially slow on new trends like introducing gambling to the region.

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Actually, the key is that the land owned by the Native Americans, precisely the reservations, are considered sovereign territory in many ways, so those regulations you speak of do not apply in many aspects. As you can see here, the range of exemptions are precisely those that enable easy gaming:

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Federal Indian reservations are generally exempt from state jurisdiction, including taxation, except when Congress specifically authorizes such jurisdiction.
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March 17, 2021, 11:10:03 PM
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To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run. I wonder, from where do native americans collect so much money to operate a casino?
Are they millionaire to be able to do this efficiently? If so, why do they live in federal reservations? Or is there a federal department which takes care their finances?

I think there is someone who is backing them seems there are lots who play casino there. someone that grabs the opportunity to get rich without showing himself to the public. Maybe one of the government officials because when you see the chart they are operating years ago until now. As for the small community, here in our city most of the small village has their own gambling habit which most likely results in something bad because, despite their lack of resources, they don't mind paying the money they only have. Authorities should take care of those guys' whole community like that playing casino as if it's just some child game is not appropriate for the children and some people with sound minds.
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March 17, 2021, 10:19:55 PM
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I'm 100% sure that they have done a feasibility and profitability study on the project, this is something new and will benefit certain tribe of the region who I believe to be the ancestral tribe of that region, they are proud of their tribe that they have done partnership, they are targetting people from this region, based on the article they will also open an entertainment and restaurant venue to be announced soon, so there's a lot of happening around this project and could become a major tourist attraction.

I have not been into an Indian casino, I'm sure gamblers will be curious about this new casino because this is something many gamblers will want to see what this new gambling hub can offer.

If they setup a casino at that particular location, then the revenue generation is going to be huge. But the last time I heard, the state authorities are not permitting them to start the casino operations. The tribe and their partners have spent more than a million USD in lobbying for the casino, but till now they haven't got the necessary permits to start operations.
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March 17, 2021, 05:53:24 PM
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I'm 100% sure that they have done a feasibility and profitability study on the project, this is something new and will benefit certain tribe of the region who I believe to be the ancestral tribe of that region, they are proud of their tribe that they have done partnership, they are targetting people from this region, based on the article they will also open an entertainment and restaurant venue to be announced soon, so there's a lot of happening around this project and could become a major tourist attraction.

I have not been into an Indian casino, I'm sure gamblers will be curious about this new casino because this is something many gamblers will want to see what this new gambling hub can offer.
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March 17, 2021, 05:27:30 PM
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I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).
There is nothing specific about Indian casinos. Here it has flourished as a big business and the starting post clearly mention about the Indian population under reservation have seen good money out of caisnos. The large picture of the casino seems to be the attraction. Already few plans has been suspended, now the project is waiting for environmental impact review. We don't know whether it gets approved. Lets get into discussion after it opens by 2022.

Haven't been in an Indian casino. Just like others, I have been only in a Chinese-operated casino like in Macau. But I don't think there will be much of a deviation from traditional casino. Will there be native games that will be introduced? We don't know. So yes, let's discuss this when they finally unveiled this casino.  Tongue
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March 17, 2021, 05:11:49 PM
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I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).
There is nothing specific about Indian casinos. Here it has flourished as a big business and the starting post clearly mention about the Indian population under reservation have seen good money out of caisnos. The large picture of the casino seems to be the attraction. Already few plans has been suspended, now the project is waiting for environmental impact review. We don't know whether it gets approved. Lets get into discussion after it opens by 2022.
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March 17, 2021, 04:20:33 PM
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Never heard and tried such.

To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run.
That's out of the question because they wouldn't start a casino without a secured fund as it's needed to operate the casino for a long time.
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March 17, 2021, 04:06:13 PM
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Remember when new york lawmakers took years to finally legalize mixed martial arts in the state? Heavily regulated states like new york move glacially slow on new trends like introducing gambling to the region.

I would guess the reason this is being fast tracked involves NY searching for ways to prevent their mass exodus of residents to other states. A trend which began years before the pandemic.

There's a famous story about Donald Trump trying to open a casino in florida years ago and being denied As competition between states for residents and tax revenues intensifies. Perhaps we'll see casinos open in other states as well. Wouldn't that be great?  
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March 17, 2021, 02:29:36 PM
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I've never visited such a casino before, though I've heard a few stories surrounding them from friends and colleagues. Personally, I would love to try it for the experience alone and see whether they're capable to get me hooked like those Vegas-themed and Macau-themed casinos that I've been used to for years.

To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run. I wonder, from where do native americans collect so much money to operate a casino?
Are they millionaire to be able to do this efficiently? If so, why do they live in federal reservations? Or is there a federal department which takes care their finances?

I think they have outside investors that are uniquely interested to what the natives can offer to the table. The statistics don't lie, so I guess there's really big money to be made from these ventures that backing them would be sensible.
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March 17, 2021, 02:11:11 PM
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I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
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You must be joking Of course there are Indian casinos. It's a very big thing in the United States. In fact. If you look closely at the at the graph in the original post, you will see that their revenue is growing year on year. On the usual Las Vegas style, casinos are in fact lowering in revenue, so. Just take a look and I think your question. Is already answered.
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March 17, 2021, 01:41:30 PM
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I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).
I can't also think of a unique Indian Gambling game, I looked over the internet to find one and the images that was brought to me was just the same like what we always see on a normal casino.
Maybe they just their own play styles but still play the same game just like us. Or this record are only for Indians who owns casino over the USA continent.
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March 17, 2021, 01:10:10 PM
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To run a casino someone needs a lot of money to cover the big wins and losses to gamblers on short run. I wonder, from where do native americans collect so much money to operate a casino?
Are they millionaire to be able to do this efficiently? If so, why do they live in federal reservations? Or is there a federal department which takes care their finances?
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March 17, 2021, 11:46:54 AM
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The so called "Shinnecock Nation" is anything but Indian. They are a bunch of people with very distant Indian ancestry, who claims to be direct descendants of the Mohegan tribe. For me this is all just ridiculous. These people don't believe in the original Indian religion or speak the Mohegan language. Nothing differentiates them from the neighboring people who live adjacent to the reservation. So why they are allowed to operate casinos, while their neighbors are not permitted to do so?
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March 17, 2021, 10:27:25 AM
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I haven't been to any casino owned or operated by an Indian, does it mean that since this is an American Indian casino the games are also different? Or does the casino also offer the conventional casino games which are offered by majority of the casinos?
in gambling we have country themed games (ex. american roulete ) indian can offer their own themed games but there would be classic games for all races  if they want to target more players worldwide .
 if you havent played an indian casino you should start playing to stop getting curious  .
gambling in india are banned and indian citizen needs to migrate to countries where gambling operations is legal if they want to pursue their gambling career .
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March 17, 2021, 10:21:38 AM
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I never heard of Native American casinos, is that even exist?
In movies, we know Chinese casinos with Mahjong and stuff, Japanese with pachinko, etc. What's unique about Indian games? It seems their culture isn't strong in gambling (I might be wrong tho).
they do exist. the reason why didn't notice it in movies is probably that it looks just like any other casinos that you can see in las vegas. I don't know if they have any unique games that came from their culture but as far as I know the games from a native American casino is almost the same as the ones you see on a casino not owned by a Native American.

anyway, you might find this website helpful if you are looking for an Indian casino https://www.500nations.com/Indian_Casinos.asp

Have you ever been on an Indian casino? Good experience?
nope, probably won't experience it in my lifetime. I doubt I would even be able to visit the US. but if we are talking about an online crypto casino owned by a native American? I would definitely try it out.
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March 17, 2021, 09:59:43 AM
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I haven't been to any casino owned or operated by an Indian, American Indian to be specific. I was misled by this topic. Simply calling them Indians might mean a different country's citizens. Anyway, does it mean that since this is an American Indian casino the games are also different? Or does the casino also offer the conventional casino games which are offered by majority of the casinos?
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