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Topic: And the yobit.net campaign is back - page 2. (Read 1319 times)

legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
September 27, 2019, 01:10:01 AM
#50
Hmm.. you might be right.. but that's quite an unfair duel. LoyceV is offline for almost 2 hours now.
I guess he is charging his batteries.

I'd love to see a 1v1 scraping duel between those two tho  Cheesy
Suchmoon can have this one Tongue
I don't have tools ready to check signatures, and unless Yobit is going to pay me insane amounts of money, I'm not going to do this.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
September 27, 2019, 12:59:33 AM
#49
Thank you for your criticism, but what can we do to improve the situation?

- reduce the number of daily messages?
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic
Now, it is better to see you stepped in, and claimed that Yobit truly run their campaign in the forum.

Something you have to keep in mind.
- Campaign, when runs, has to officially show proof that it comes from real team, this case, Yobit team (for Yobit, it makes sense as consequence of your previous campaigns).
- You can hire a manager to do this, such as Hhampuz, yahoo62278, or other famous and professional managers.
- Max post cap per day should be reduced. In my opinion, the max daily post cap should be somewhere in between 10. There are some good posters can make more than 10 per day, but they are very scarce, so 10 is acceptable daily postcap.
- Required minimum amount of earned merits (last 30 days, 60, or 120 days, it depends) will help to get good participants.
- Bonus payments for best participants each week might be considered, if Yobit team have funds for it. I suggest the top 5 merit earners each week will get bonus payments. Top 5 winners will get equal bonus payments from bonus pool or different depends on their ranks. It's your choice.
- Personal text, when requires, should only used for Yobit, not CryptoTalk.org.
If Yobit team stays behind CryptoTalk.org forum, the team might consider to run the second campaign separately from Yobit's campaign, for CryptoTalk (with signature, and personal text).

Because of previous vague rounds of Yobit campaign, and corresponding issues, for the next round, if you hire a manager, you can leave a reply below campaign's OP that Yobit is behind it to clear all drama.

Professional managers will do reject low quality posts, after screening and choosing best ones among participants. Honestly, such changes only bring better results for Yobit campaign.
legendary
Activity: 1007
Merit: 1010
★YoBit.Net★
September 27, 2019, 12:51:35 AM
#48
The participants that make up the campaign are the representatives that the forum sees, you'll need a manager that'll select the very good posters, that way everywhere the signature is seen, it'll be complemented with a sensible and quality post above it.
Yahoo, Hamphuz, Dark star and some other top managers do and can do that effectively, you'll need to contact them if you wish, to know if they'll be interested, considering the furore this campaign has caused.

Thanks, we'll ask these managers and wait for their answers
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 301
September 27, 2019, 12:45:54 AM
#47
Pretty dumb for Yobit to use their name to promote another forum and try compete with bitcointalk. They could simply set up a fresh account to manage the campaign. Or are they doing this to prove something to the bitcointalk community since they've lost their reputation here from the many scam accusations or issues pumps and dumps?

It definitely is not nor will it be in any competition with bitcointalk, it'll probably just die off after some time,
The problem with this new forums is that they end up with mostly bounty hunters.
It's stated in the Cryptoforum terms that they'll only pay for quality posts and I will not be surprised if hunters won't get paid then leave.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1302
September 27, 2019, 12:45:45 AM
#46
- reduce the number of daily messages?
The number of daily messages is not the problem, it could be five or even ten, yet the participants in the campaign could still make five shitposts. As long as the 20 required posts isn't the minimum for payout per day, then any one who feels it's within his capabilities to make the 20 posts without spamming nor post bursting can go ahead and do so, mind you you'll need a manager that'll be strict to adhere to the rules, "no spamming or burst posting"
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic
The participants that make up the campaign are the representatives that the forum sees, you'll need a manager that'll select the very good posters, that way everywhere the signature is seen, it'll be complemented with a sensible and quality post above it.
Yahoo, Hamphuz, Dark star and some other top managers do and can do that effectively, you'll need to contact them if you wish, to know if they'll be interested, considering the furore this campaign has caused.
hero member
Activity: 1659
Merit: 687
LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
September 27, 2019, 12:43:56 AM
#45
Thank you for your criticism, but what can we do to improve the situation?

- reduce the number of daily messages?
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic
If you want a simple automated system, at least set an earned merit requirement for participants. I can provide you with a complete list.

If you want a decent campaign that doesn't get banned again, hire a good manager. It was discussed during the previous campaign, and despite your bad image, reducing the spam has priority.
legendary
Activity: 1007
Merit: 1010
★YoBit.Net★
September 27, 2019, 12:36:38 AM
#44
Thank you for your criticism, but what can we do to improve the situation?

- reduce the number of daily messages?
- or we can ask yahoo62278 (if he approve it) or somebody else to moderate our sig campaign and create new topic
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1302
September 27, 2019, 12:15:46 AM
#43
So promoting crypto talk forum is not a problem until the campaign participants are not spamming here.
I'll take your stand on this, and I can understand why theymos wouldn't bother troubling his head over this sort of shitty forum advertising itself on bitcointalk.
It definitely is not nor will it be in any competition with bitcointalk, it'll probably just die off after some time, and to promote freedom to advertise in this forum as long as rules are upheld.

I doubt theymos would stop their ad here, only if their promoters post continuous spam, then we're directly affected and strick action would be served.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1166
🤩Finally Married🤩
September 27, 2019, 12:12:49 AM
#42
This new campaign has the sole purpose to advertise the forum and lure people to it in my opinion...
The most savage thing here is they'll lure Bitcointalk Users then eventually those users will just advertise and talk about Bitcointalk while being on CryptoTalk. 😂
Ending: Users will be back at Bitcointalk. LOL.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
Bitcoin = Financial freedom
September 27, 2019, 12:03:23 AM
#41
I don't know what Theymos thinks about paid advertisements for other forums here at Bitcointalk?

Theymos not against promoting another crypto forum at bitcointalk because in the past I seen signature campaign for ICOforum for weeks but it ended up in the way after the manager stole all the bounty funds.

So promoting crypto talk forum is not a problem until the campaign participants are not spamming here.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2721
September 26, 2019, 11:43:15 PM
#40
-snip-
I am not sure about the CryptoTalk.org forum, that is currently run their giveaway for posts to promote their forum. Not sure why Yobit require to add some words about that forum to personal text. Does Yobit stay behind Cryptotalk.org forum?
-snip-
I am 100% sure they are behind Cryptotalk.org or at least tightly coupled. This new campaign has the sole purpose to advertise the forum and lure people to it in my opinion. Just take a look at the personal message, this is the wet dream of every shitposter out there.

I don't know what Theymos thinks about paid advertisements for other forums here at Bitcointalk?
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1273
September 26, 2019, 11:12:16 PM
#39
Quote from: Admin
Dear Forum Users!

We start to pay for every post on this forum - 0.00001 btc (1000 sats).

Max daily msgs: 30 / day

Payments will be available from 2-3 September but all messages are counted from now.

- we need only constructive posts

- each post must contain 100+ characters, no low value

Moderators will check all posts and ban/block spammers.

Good luck!

I believe Yobit is addicted to spam and are also trying to drive people crazy for money with their new campaign on their own forum where they'll be paying pennies for just 30 posts (max) per day and they expect their users not to spam, else they'll get banned. Well-watchable circus going over there.

Source of the quote above = https://cryptotalk.org/topic/21-get-paid-for-every-post/?tab=comments#comment-214

One strange thing is that, I've seen many people hopping from Bitcointalk over there making accounts with the same username they've got here. Maybe they don't love their privacy nor their accounts, because if they've used the same password they used at Bitcointalk, I guess their BCT account is at stake now as I'd never trust a forum (cryptotalk) from those who appreciate spam. I'm not sure if the accounts made with Bitcointalk names over cryptotalk are of those using Bitcointalk with those usernames here, however!  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
September 26, 2019, 09:31:57 PM
#38
Wait a sec... Weren't those the exact same (or at least really similar in max volume at least) terms (alongside the lack of a manager) that got them temporarily blacklisted the first time?
Here:
https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/1177257232314093568
https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/
There is a minor change: They require
Quote
★ Personal Message must be set to CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!
I am not sure about the CryptoTalk.org forum, that is currently run their giveaway for posts to promote their forum. Not sure why Yobit require to add some words about that forum to personal text. Does Yobit stay behind Cryptotalk.org forum?

I visited that forum and it looks like a shit one, because there is no rules so far. It is strange to see they run their forum (especially nowadays) without any rules.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 3284
September 26, 2019, 09:06:33 PM
#37
Does DarkStar_ toss the dice a few hundred times ? Or flip some coins ? How does he decide who gets accepted and who doesn't ?
Maybe just making a huge list, closing his eyes and pointing onto a random name with his finger ?

Nope, I have a dart board I use for these things. My accuracy isn't great which is why it takes so long.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
September 26, 2019, 08:50:11 PM
#36
Quote
★ Personal Message must be set to CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!

Obviously a contradiction, and most likely an intentional one.

BTW they're paying a dollar per post on Bitcointalk so that people would go to Cryptotalk to get paid 10 7.98 cents per post there (not quite every post though, 30 posts per day max). So if you think that at $1 per post the quality here is not stellar, try to imagine what it's gonna be on that dumpster of a forum.
copper member
Activity: 2338
Merit: 4543
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September 26, 2019, 08:35:11 PM
#35
Also, it says on their page, there are rules (no low quality posts), but I'm not sure how they will enforce that.

This as they insist you wear a personal message that states:

(bitmixer had a similar style but I think they had someone moderating and could afford a lot more in pay)... Their support was awful though sometimes...
Bitmixer had the same problem until Lauda(?) stepped in. There was also something similar with hilariousandco handling a previously spam-heavy campaign, I believe.

Hhampuz was managing the bitmixer campaign.  Was there a time when they were not managed (mismanaged?)
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18711
September 26, 2019, 08:15:59 PM
#34
Thanks! I'm all out of cookies though. Merit too. Perhaps an ice cream?

Interesting that pretty much every account was either inactive or close to it, and have all woken up just in time to join this spam campaign. How convenient. Roll Eyes No doubt this will get worse over the coming days as more and more spammers join up again.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
September 26, 2019, 08:02:34 PM
#33
100 sats Eternal bragging rights on suchie.

I was hoping for a cookie but whatever.
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  #  User                    BPIP  before    now  AvgLen   Merit
   1. startsts                BPIP     0.0   13.0     188      12
  2. artur11110000           BPIP     0.0    5.0     123       5
   3. BaronCoin               BPIP     0.0    5.0     142        
  4. akhzayn                 BPIP     0.0    4.0     420       4
   5. stan86                  BPIP     0.0    4.0     229      11
  6. alexflow                BPIP     0.0    3.0     165       2
   7. bellicose               BPIP     0.0    3.0     210       2
  8. Judge-Dredd             BPIP     0.0    3.0     427        
   9. poptok1                 BPIP     0.7    3.0     587     113
 10. skiv2011                BPIP     0.0    3.0     295       1
  11. yoseph                  BPIP     0.1    3.0     330      12
 12. darkangel11             BPIP     0.3    2.0     438      57
  13. scanderpot              BPIP     0.0    2.0     225        
 14. DigDeepMining           BPIP     0.0    1.0     983       3
  15. InvoKing                BPIP     0.0    1.0     365      64
 16. johnnywoo2015           BPIP     0.0    1.0     381        
  17. th3nolo                 BPIP     0.0    1.0     333      35
 18. VenMiner                BPIP     0.0    1.0     295        
  19. Zich                    BPIP     0.0    1.0      38        


Please note that it takes me 24h+ to catch up with all signature changes so Mr. Robovac still has a chance to beat me if he knows a better way to do it.
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 2481
September 26, 2019, 05:57:05 PM
#32
Hmm.. you might be right.. but that's quite an unfair duel. LoyceV is offline for almost 2 hours now.
I guess he is charging his batteries.

I'd love to see a 1v1 scraping duel between those two tho  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18711
September 26, 2019, 05:52:14 PM
#31
100 sats Eternal bragging rights on suchie.
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