Topic: (AndySt) The next abuser of stake campaign? (Read 1027 times)

At least on a light note, nobody left a red tag on your profile about the issue. You can move on past this, avoid doing the same thing that costed you a slot in the previous campaign, and join a new one. I see a number of good signature campaigns that are still open and given that you were a regular gambling section poster, you stand a chance of participating again soon.

Once again, I have never seen anything reprehensible in such, as you put it, "technique" of creating messages, because this is in any case a special case of editing messages, so it was a complete surprise to me such a hysterical reaction to this from people like you. Therefore, in order to avoid such misunderstandings, I will refrain from such, as you put it, "techniques". I have nothing against the fact that the history of editing messages can be found on the Internet and I have not forgotten anything, as you put it, and I have nothing to be ashamed of.
I am always ready to admit my mistakes, but I am not always ready to admit what is a mistake in the opinion of others. If about the subtext, then it still does not apply to you and personally I have nothing bad against you.
I repeat once again, we have different ideas about mistakes, but I humbly accepted Carolzinha's decision because I respect her, as she respects me.
It's not just and not so much about connection. My life doesn't revolve only around the forum and I have things to do in real life.
Once again, I do not agree with this reading of the rules, but in order to avoid misunderstandings and inadequate reaction of some active part of the forum, I am no longer going to resort to such a method of writing messages.

P.S. I wanted to combine my last two messages, but anticipating what hysteria reigns around my edits of messages, I gave up this idea out of harm's way.

You say that you accepted all your mistakes with humility. However, is there any subtext in the appeal to Solosanz??

Why do you think that your mistake, or disrespect for the rules, should not be published? You were given an example of what will happen on the forum if all users do this.

You reply by quoting someone two hours later. Isn't the connection lost?

Solosanz, Keep up your work and help the forum. I'm sure most of the forum users will support you.

AndySt, you should carefully read rule number 1. By creating empty answers, you violated this very rule.

We know very well about your "technique". You forget that all messages are archived almost instantly on external sites, and that the forum indicates the date when the message was last edited. From what I can tell, you started using this technique of posting empty posts or posts with just one word, "Yes" or "No", around July last year. So you had a nice run for almost a year. It's a wonder no one has noticed this before.

As I told you before, this is not the right way to use the forum. And, this forum would be a real mess if everyone started posting with this "technique".


This is your wrongdoing and you alone are responsible for it. Leave God out of this.

There was no problem until you created this problem out of the blue.  In any case, if the messages go to the next day before midnight, there's nothing wrong with that, but for me personally it's very inconvenient, because then you need to break my whole technique of posting messages.
Because I don't want to attract too much attention to my person on such an occasion and in such a way.
The campaign also does not want to attract attention to itself in this way and it is easier to stop cooperating with the person who allowed attracting attention to himself in an undesirable light. And yes, sometimes a person like you is useful to identify real violators, the most important thing is that you think about the consequences of your actions.
Once again, may God be your judge in your activities.

The problem is you're posted on the midnight and want your post to be counted on the previous day.

You're like saying I'm a wrong person here, it's wrong for me to tell everyone about a truth? before I create this thread, why you not tell to Caroll or create reputation thread about your strategy?

If my report is wrong, you wouldn't be kicked. If my report is wrong, many users will give opposite opinion or blame me in this thread.

Learn and correct your mistake, pathetic.

_BlackStar, thank you for your kind words! I just perfectly see when my message is deleted and then a message about it appears in my profile. So, for a year and a half of participation in this campaign, I had only TWO times when I did not have time to edit and add text to my EMPTY messages were deleted by the forum moderator as spam. I repeat once again that I tried not to abuse it and within 10-15 minutes I quickly edited this empty message and entered the text there. Therefore, I now have an emptiness in my soul and a feeling of monstrous injustice from what was done to me. But I say again, may God be the judge for Solosanz, who did this to me.

As @Carrollzinha said, you are a quality poster who is recognized as a top 5 poster as long as you join the Stake campaign. Everyone doesn't seem to be against you here, but simply telling the manager about the odd behavior you're experiencing right now isn't a good thing to hold on to.

If the mod handles the report in the first 1-5 minutes when the report is done, then I'm sure many of your posts have been deleted before because you were just quoting without adding anything to the post and that's spam. Obviously that's ridiculous, but luckily you got away with it and the mod may not have handled those reports from other users. So this should be a good lesson for you in the future so that this kind of behavior will not happen again.

Carollzinha, thank you so much for your good words about me, I'm really pleased, but it was sad to read it! It is with regret, but with humility and dignity that I accept your decision. I wish you good luck and all the best in your activities!
As for Solosanz, I can't say anything about this and nothing good, unlike you, because building her name on the destruction of someone else's name in my opinion is not the best activity, but as they say, may God be the judge for Solosanz

After reading all your comments & checking it carefully, Andy's journey in Stake Campaign has come to an end.

I would like to thanks everyone for your feedbacks and thanks, once again, Solosanz for all his effort in helping this forum to be a good place for everyone, no matter if they belong to any campaign or if they are just regular members. Thanks again for being so prestative in keeping this community a healthy place for everyone.

And I know some of you may have doubt about our team dropping Andy negative trust on forum and for that I would like to say that Andy was, almost always, in our top 5 best posters, even when he was not getting the prize, and it means that his quality is really good (I, personally, enjoy reading most all his posts) so a negative trust will not be dropped as it could harm his chances to get into another campaign and maybe even having him to leave the forum.. and it would be a pitty if the community would lose such a good poster. From our side the best thing we can do is to wish him the best of luck in any campaign he is gonna join & hope he can understand that this behavior is really not a good thing when you are inside a campaign.

As for our campaign, we are designating someone only to take care of these edited posts from now on. Hopefully such a thing will not happen again but, in case it does, it would be nice to count with you guys to keep sending your reports & we can work together to keep this forum as a good place for everyone.



Best Regards,
Carollzinha

It was a bit sarcastic. What does it say? Bad popularity, there is still popularity. With the right mind, everything can be converted into a positive side for yourself And to be honest, of course it's unpleasant and this is not what I'm aiming for.
It's not that it's closer to the deadline, because I try to write on the forum regularly and there are no big problems for me if the messages move forward a day. It's just that it's more convenient for me to navigate my messages and where I'm going to reply. I have a certain window in time for writing messages and I'm trying to conveniently adjust everything for this window.

The reason there is a storm is that what you have been doing is unethical. It's a form of "cheating" on their side of people you are advertising. I have noticed such quotes by you while trying to reply me before. I almost reported you, but I thought maybe you changed, but according to this report it seems you didn't.

Let me ask, maybe I am missing something. Why do you make empty quotes, especially towards the deadline?
Why not just reply at once?

So, you're pleased or it's very unpleasant?

It doesn't goes against forum rules, so, you won't get banned. It's just not right way to post when you're in signature campaign. If it's just 10-15 minutes, I don't see issue. But if it's question of few hours, there is issue already. If you're posting in active thread, it's likely that your post will not get much visibility, especially if topic will go to next page. It is not for signature campaigns is paying money for us.
Wouldn't be better to use bookmarks on your browser to mark threads to reply later? Personally I often find interesting topics to reply, but I completely don't have time at that moment. So, I simply leave that topic open on one of my browser tabs and I return to it when I have time

As for empty messages, it's not even a few hours, but a question of a maximum of 10-15 minutes. I can actually edit the message itself within a few hours. If it really was a matter of a few hours, the moderators and administrators would have banned me a long time ago, and the number of "well-wishers" on the forum is off the scale, who would point this out, so I am surprised and saddened that such a big storm broke out because of the observation of one person and all sorts of omissions and misunderstandings. The situation is not worth a damn.

@AndySt, whatever your reason, this is not the right way to use the forum. I suggest you stop doing that.

There is nothing wrong with editing your posts for grammar or spelling errors, or adding new information where necessary, but it is completely unacceptable to start writing your posts a few hours after you've reserved your spot in the thread. No matter whether Carollzinha tolerates it or not, this goes against what is considered good forum practice, and I'm pretty sure forum management wouldn't allow us to do that. Can you imagine what the forum would look like if everyone started behaving like that?

I always try to follow the rule 5 days a week, the only thing a week ago I suffered a lot with a tooth, I have bleeding from there. Now it seems to have healed, but I still signed up for a dental surgeon on Monday to remove a tooth. You have incorrect calculations, last time it was 8,9,10,12,13 that was counted. On Tuesday morning, a table appears where everything is taken into account until 23.59 Monday. If we were told to do things differently, then I would comply with these requirements. Therefore, I usually try not to write messages on Tuesday so that there are no misunderstandings about counting.

You're correct almost campaign doesn't have mandatory condition to be active at least for 5 days/week, but if you don't like or didn't sure can be active at least 5 days/week, why you joined this campaign then? You're free to join any campaign that you like or not.

Any participants need to read the whole rules, understand it and obliged to follow all the campaign rules. The campaign managers didn't need to follow your rules since they don't have to.

Solosanz: If your post doesn't got deleted, it doesn't mean you're correct to use that's strategy. Moderators isn't active 24/7 and not all users will want to report a bad post either they're lazy or have personal reason etc.

I: I repeat once again, it won't hurt anyone if such a message hangs empty for a little while, except for those who like to pay attention to it instead of reading the messages themselves, because I will edit it quickly.

Solosanz: Alright I'm wrong about this, you're correct about 1-2 hours.

I:Thank God that we at least agreed with each other on something.


Solosanz: Actually that's what I'm saying, you wanted your post will remain yesterday post while you're active and can post in the next day, if you not make "reserved post", all your post should be counted on the next day.
Look this, example of the June/13 where you posted on date 13, 12, 10, 9, 8 it should be count +1 of each day, so you're posted on date 14, 13, 11, 10, 9. The cycle is only from June 7-June 13 and you're only active for 4 days.

I: I have already participated in many campaigns, but none of them had a mandatory condition for participation 5 or 6 or 7 consecutive days a week and the participants themselves could decide when they could skip a day. And I hope that this will not happen. The requirements always included the minimum number of messages, the minimum message volume and how many days a week a person should write messages.

To be honest, I have a strong feeling that this situation has arisen due to a misunderstanding and I am happy to bring all explanations. Unfortunately, I was told about these claims only a few hours ago, so I just physically could not answer and explain something.

If your post doesn't got deleted, it doesn't mean you're correct to use that's strategy. Moderators isn't active 24/7 and not all users will want to report a bad post either they're lazy or have personal reason etc.

Solosanz: You should realize that after that user hinted me to not doing such strategy, you shouldn't do that anymore in any similar practice! there's no much difference replying word "Yes" and quoting without wrote anything.

I: For me personally, this is a very big difference, because those who know me will understand that I will answer something soon. And those who do not know, they should take it calmly, because there is nothing to read in the message yet. And formally, if the moderator has not deleted it, then I can edit this post.

Solosanz: Maximum of a hour or two, how old you're? can you count how long it is from 11 PM to 12 AM? it's really a maximum of two hours as you mentioned above?


I: Well, if you don't understand, then I'll explain it to you in a 24-hour format. How much time will pass between 23-29 of this day and 00-24 of the next day?

Solosanz: I never said it's against forum rules, but this is about a rules of your campaign and the decision is depend on Caroll who're the manager of your campaign.

I: It's really up to Carroll to decide, but not for you and not for me, and there's no reason at all to call me a abuser and start a separate topic in the forum for this.

Solosanz: This is an idea cheat how to make your post counted on the previous day since you're active on the next day, which is you're failed to meet the minimum 5 days since you're active only for 4 days/week.

I: I know this really cheater idea perfectly well, but I practically don't use it, because YESTERDAY's message, edited TOMORROW, still remains YESTERDAY's message