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Topic: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] - page 119. (Read 625666 times)

legendary
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Does anyone know what happened to the hash rate? It went from 4Mh/s down to 2.75Mh/s. Why the sudden drop?

The coin is abandoned by the dev, the price went down, so it became unprofitable to mine Aeons.

And I don't now if you noticed, even though the overall hash rate went down, the complexity of the blocks is pretty high. I know at least a couple of other CPU coins 2x more profitable than Aeons. so, why would one mine it if he could simply mine something else - sell it and then buy x2 more Aeons for the same hashrate

Right now the speculative people who don't care about mining and a real coin price in relation to HASH per $, dropped the price, so unless the price goes back to 24K the coin is doomed. Big holders of the coin should consider setting a buy wall at 22K on hitbit, it would benefit everyone, and bring back the miners

And to be honest, there is no reason right now, for Aeon price on hitbit to be so low, and there is no reason for bittrex to maintain the wallet for so long, so I guess, either bittrex doing this intentionally or out of negligence, you pick one, because there are no technical issues with the block chain right now it works flawlessly.

I read the same elsewhere. Bittrex is actually (from what I heard so this is just hearsay), not running a fully operational wallet. While coins in Bittrex are still being traded; there is no way to move coins in or out of the Bittrex exchange. Most people have probably not caught on yet to this fact.

With the DEV having moved on; if Bittrex delists; the coin will fall into oblivion like so many have.

Strato
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Does anyone know what happened to the hash rate? It went from 4Mh/s down to 2.75Mh/s. Why the sudden drop?

The coin is abandoned by the dev, the price went down, so it became unprofitable to mine Aeons.

And I don't now if you noticed, even though the overall hash rate went down, the complexity of the blocks is pretty high. I know at least a couple of other CPU coins 2x more profitable than Aeons. so, why would one mine it if he could simply mine something else - sell it and then buy x2 more Aeons for the same hashrate

Right now the speculative people who don't care about mining and a real coin price in relation to HASH per $, dropped the price, so unless the price goes back to 24K the coin is doomed. Big holders of the coin should consider setting a buy wall at 22K on hitbit, it would benefit everyone, and bring back the miners

And to be honest, there is no reason right now, for Aeon price on hitbit to be so low, and there is no reason for bittrex to maintain the wallet for so long, so I guess, either bittrex doing this intentionally or out of negligence, you pick one, because there are no technical issues with the block chain right now it works flawlessly.
legendary
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Any news, what is going on with the coin? Should we stop mining?
The mining stopped to be profitable, the price dropped to 15k and will continue to collapse to 5-7K in a day or two, so the coin is kinda living its last days. Anyone still mining?

There is no one else then you to decide to mine or not to mine. If you really cant decide just flip a coin. Sometimes some decisions are not worth to spend to much time on them. I wish someone made a physical AEON till now I could flip that one for my AEON decisions.
Myself, I mine Aeon (and other coins) not for immediate profit, but with the expectation that the price will be much higher in the future.

So I'm definitely going to keep mining for now.

At this point, community contributions are the best thing to increase the value of the coin. The community has really expanded recently.


Crypto entered into hype 3 months ago. All crypto communities that hopes to survive should expand. AEON had one boost in mid 2016 and another now. We should also note that privacy is right now not hot in crypto. But it will get hot sooner or latter again.

Agreed; while I personally don't need privacy aspects (having done most transactions using Purse; and the major brokers for BTC); I think we will see a surge in privacy demand moving forward. With the political aspects of privacy in general moving towards a very "no information is protected"; it will be interesting to see how the digital currency economy balances the demands of what people want; and what can actually be done; knowing that most "private" channels regarding anything in the digital age are anything but private.
legendary
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In our tests (for our upcoming alt-coin release in Q4 2017); we're able to get roughly 2950 h/s on a dual E5-2697 V2 system.

This is running the AEON STAK CPU miner as a single instance (we've tried running two instances with each instance set with fixed CPU core affinities - but a single instance seems to be about the same - this -- running on 42 Threads out of 48 in HyperThread Mode.

This leaves 6 Threads Open for system overhead and the GPU Miner.

We can successfully inch out 1100 H/s on a single GTX Titan with no overclocking.

So combined the GPU/CPU combo is pulling roughly 4 K/h average. This is consistent across all 5 workstations.

Using AEON-POOL; we've been playing with various fixed difficulties for both the CPU and GPU; a nice feature of this pool; and a feature we plan to implement on our roll out.

Above information is for reference only. Realizing our workstations have a lot of cores but slower clock speeds than the newer I7 (even the 2600K overclocked is far faster per thread); wondering how the new I9 processors will handle the multi-threading with mining... The new Intel I9 at 10 Cores looks blazing fast, but price point is going to be > $1000.

Curious how some of the legacy cards are performing... anyone have any 270x and 280x cards running these latest builds?  We have stacks of cards but have yet to put back together any systems to test. Wondering if it's worth the effort.

Cheers!

Strato
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What's the current most optimized cpu miner for Aeon, I'm seeing about 600h/sec on an i7-7700 which seems low with the one i'm using right now.

That's about right, I get 580-630 on an i7 6700 at stock clocks (without locked pages enabled) using aeon-stak-cpu miner which is the best one out there imo.  On the other hand my Ryzen 1700X @ 4.0 ghz hits 2150, but it's much better at mining in general.

I also find Ryzen to be very good, all my 1700's run 24/7 @ 3750Mhz/1,25V with stock cooler. Package temp ~65deg, core temp ~55-60deg, around 88 watts (hwmonitor). If all 16 threads are used the speed is constant 2250-2350H. Using all threads affect slightly to ETH mining speed (but not ZEC), thats why I currently use 14 threads with constant speed around 2150H. At 4Mhz the speed of 2150H sound a bit on the low side, it should push ~2400H if the cores do not throttle.
sr. member
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Just to let you know : I finally was able to sync the daemon, and the simplewallet, and also to pool mine. After some investigation, it seems that the problem was coming from Ubuntu : I was on 32bit, and I changed for 64bit.
After that I succeeded to make the config. and everything worked fine.
I finally decided to pool mine for the moment (at serenity of course, like you helped me alot ! ;-) ) : the sync of the aeond, and its storage after saving, was really long on my system.
By the way I don't really understand why it's so long (except for the first time of course)  : like the blockchain.bin is stored in his main part after the first sync, why is it so long to save the second or third time, although only a few blocks have been added to the chain? In other words it seems that the whole chain is saved entirely even if only a few elements are added ; in my noobs language,  it's a bit like making a new "save as" each time, instead of a simple "save". Maybe  I'm doing something wrong and missed something?

By the way I guess I need to upgrade and/or improve a bit my system to be able to run a private node, (maybe add some RAM, maybe tweak a little bit the overclock config.) but I'm really happy already to have been able to mine for the first time today :-). I'm now waiting impatiently for my first Aeon, and I'm very proud to have entered the Aeon world !

Hidden Jadestone was really useful and is a precious guide. Thanks for that.
I would just like to make a (constructive) remark about the site ; I don't know if you noticed it, but a lot of (if not all) the interlinks between the posts lead to a "404 page not found"; you have to navigate by the menu or the categories to reach the post you wanted to read. Maybe you want to fix that...

Thanks helps a lot, i fixed already some of the links but if you see any links still not working, just tell me the post and link and ill fix it:)

About the whole saving thing, yes it writes a temporary file with the whole 4 gb blockchain info and then deletes the old file and replaces it. you can observe that by showing hidden files.
why it is like that i dont know. maybe to prevent corrupt file? anyway this should be no more a problem once lmdb is up hehe

And about 32bit, its not really supported anymore anywhere. its dying out on windows and i guess for ubuntu too then?

sorry for late reply, im more active on reddit^^

EDIT: forgot to welcome you to the wonderful and mysterious world of AEON:P welcome!
newbie
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testing my

dell xps 14z 2640m xmrig 2 cores @  297.97 H/s @ 27 watts debian 9 server core temp @ +64.0°C

i7 4770k xmrig 4 cores @ 1000 H/s @ 70 watts ubuntu 17.04 server core temp @ +72.0°C stock fan

e5 2660 xmrig 10 cores @ 1600 H/s @ 120 watts ubuntu 17.04 server core temp @ +37.0°C deep cool fan

H/s based on xmrig accepted rate

actual power usage test by power meter.
newbie
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I'm seeing about 600h/sec on an i7-7700
I get 580-630 on an i7 6700 at stock clocks (without locked pages enabled

That's pretty slow. On i5-4570 (all stock, 16Gb ram @ 2 channels, win10, locked pages enabled) it's ~745h/s (without any other load), or ~748h/s after reboot and miner's clean start. Drops to ~550 with regualar web browsing though.

http://www.pixic.ru/i/A00104s111l34914_preview.png

How to?

1) Use aeon-stack or xmrig
2) Enable lock pages (if not, may give up to ~30% hasharte drop depending on system)
3) Threads/cores/cache count:

2Mb L3, 2 cores (celerons etc.) = 2 single threads
3Mb L3, 2 cores, 2 threads (pentiums) = 2 threads, one double, one single
3Mb L3, 2 cores, 4 threads (modern pentiums) = 3 single threads, affinity 7 (--cpu-affinity 7 using miner key, or just using cmd: START /affinity 7 cmd /C "xmr-stak-cpu-notls.exe"). Or, one double + one single - about 3-5% slower, but less drop under system load.
4Mb L3, 2 cores, 2 threads (i3s) = 2 double threads
4Mb L3, 2 cores, 4 threads (i3s) = 4 single threads (or two double)
6Mb L3, 4 cores, 4 threads (i5s) = 3 double threads, affinity 7
8Mb L3, 4 cores, 4 or 8 threads (i7s) = 4 double threads

If you miner cannot use both single and double threads at the same time, launch two individual instances.



Lock pages in linux is necessary too?
full member
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are there plans for a mac os wallet?
sr. member
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I'm seeing about 600h/sec on an i7-7700
I get 580-630 on an i7 6700 at stock clocks (without locked pages enabled

That's pretty slow. On i5-4570 (all stock, 16Gb ram @ 2 channels, win10, locked pages enabled) it's ~745h/s (without any other load), or ~748h/s after reboot and miner's clean start. Drops to ~550 with regualar web browsing though.







Well, 630 +20% is over 750, +30% is even higher, so I think the results are pretty typical considering that lock pages is not enabled on that particular PC (doesn't have Windows Pro installed, just Home which does not allow locked pages to be set.
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Cryptocurrency enthusiast
I'm seeing about 600h/sec on an i7-7700
I get 580-630 on an i7 6700 at stock clocks (without locked pages enabled

That's pretty slow. On i5-4570 (all stock, 16Gb ram @ 2 channels, win10, locked pages enabled) it's ~745h/s (without any other load), or ~748h/s after reboot and miner's clean start. Drops to ~550 with regualar web browsing though.



How to?

1) Use aeon-stack or xmrig
2) Enable lock pages (if not, may give up to ~30% hasharte drop depending on system)
3) Threads/cores/cache count:

2Mb L3, 2 cores (celerons etc.) = 2 single threads
3Mb L3, 2 cores, 2 threads (pentiums) = 2 threads, one double, one single
3Mb L3, 2 cores, 4 threads (modern pentiums) = 3 single threads, affinity 7 (--cpu-affinity 7 using miner key, or just using cmd: START /affinity 7 cmd /C "xmr-stak-cpu-notls.exe"). Or, one double + one single - about 3-5% slower, but less drop under system load.
4Mb L3, 2 cores, 2 threads (i3s) = 2 double threads
4Mb L3, 2 cores, 4 threads (i3s) = 4 single threads (or two double)
6Mb L3, 4 cores, 4 threads (i5s) = 3 double threads, affinity 7
8Mb L3, 4 cores, 4 or 8 threads (i7s) = 4 double threads

If you miner cannot use both single and double threads at the same time, launch two individual instances.

sr. member
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What's the current most optimized cpu miner for Aeon, I'm seeing about 600h/sec on an i7-7700 which seems low with the one i'm using right now.

That's about right, I get 580-630 on an i7 6700 at stock clocks (without locked pages enabled) using aeon-stak-cpu miner which is the best one out there imo.  On the other hand my Ryzen 1700X @ 4.0 ghz hits 2150, but it's much better at mining in general.
sr. member
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What's the current most optimized cpu miner for Aeon, I'm seeing about 600h/sec on an i7-7700 which seems low with the one i'm using right now.
legendary
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Any news, what is going on with the coin? Should we stop mining?
The mining stopped to be profitable, the price dropped to 15k and will continue to collapse to 5-7K in a day or two, so the coin is kinda living its last days. Anyone still mining?

There is no one else then you to decide to mine or not to mine. If you really cant decide just flip a coin. Sometimes some decisions are not worth to spend to much time on them. I wish someone made a physical AEON till now I could flip that one for my AEON decisions.
Myself, I mine Aeon (and other coins) not for immediate profit, but with the expectation that the price will be much higher in the future.

So I'm definitely going to keep mining for now.

At this point, community contributions are the best thing to increase the value of the coin. The community has really expanded recently.


Crypto entered into hype 3 months ago. All crypto communities that hopes to survive should expand. AEON had one boost in mid 2016 and another now. We should also note that privacy is right now not hot in crypto. But it will get hot sooner or latter again.
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Hitbtc's wallet is and was alive. You may use it (no payment id is a plus) for mining. I do. Well, local wallets are good for long-term-only saving. Pumps, instant exchange - all bad for local wallet. Huge pump - and you'll loose money while waiting for transfer from local wallet to exchange, or even fail (in case of network overload, like with Monero). So, choose your side :-)
newbie
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Any news on Bittrex unlocking wallets? I have a 31.54 Aeon pending deposit  Undecided


https://twitter.com/laerciomasala/status/880839863632883712

Pls solve.. I need this money!
sr. member
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It's not too hard to maintain your own AEON wallet, although the lack of a GUI does make it seem more daunting at first. The only real downside is that that it uses allot of RAM when synching, ~6.5 GB on my system.
newbie
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Any news on Bittrex unlocking wallets? I cannot mine without one, and I really have hope in Aeon to reach some new heights.
So mine it and hold it, that's the way to do it.
You definitely want your own wallet address, rather than using an exchange.

You can set up your own node, it's not too difficult but does require a bit of RAM or at least swap memory. And some time to fully synchronize the blockchain.

Alternately, you can run simplewallet without your own node by syncing it using a public node, such as the one I maintain.
Instructions here: https://www.hiddenjadestone.com/2017/06/24/aeon/setup-aeon-wallet-using-windows-light/

You can even just run simplewallet without any node connection, and have it generate a wallet address. Then you mine to that address. In order to verify that you received your coins, or to transfer them, you will at some point have to sync your wallet with a node.
sr. member
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Its generally not a good idea to use an exchange wallet for mining payouts, for various reasons, although I am not sure of bittrex policy about this. I would recommend setting up a wallet on your own computer instead.
full member
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Any news on Bittrex unlocking wallets? I cannot mine without one, and I really have hope in Aeon to reach some new heights.
So mine it and hold it, that's the way to do it.
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