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Topic: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] - page 115. (Read 625666 times)

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Smooth, could you tell us, when approximately the new code would be released? Is it that hard to give a direct answer?LOL
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So let's sum up all the info we have until now.

1.  51% attack, No Comment. 50/50 chance that it happened, the dev couldn't be trusted on this one.

2. BotNet - well, after the huge coin drops it became unprofitable even for botnet to savage on AEON, so they switched to SumoCoin and BitCoal

3. The current hash rate - sets the fair price around 0.00010-0.00013K

4.  The dev is in silent mode, watching how his coin is destroyed all over again.

Questions:

1. Smooth, could you tell us is it safe to use the wallet to store huge amount of coins and receive payment from the pools?

2. Smooth, could you tell us, when approximately the new code would be released?

3. Could you tell us, why you told the exchanges to lock the wallet, but didn't warn the miners that it could be dangerous to use it?

4. Smooth people trusted in AEON because of your reputation, some of us invested tens of thousand of dollars in it, I get it you don't care about the price and the market at all. but at least be honest, don't remain silent and tell us what to expect with actual info, not some vague excuses.

At least answer this question, do you think the wallet would be fixed it 1 month from now?

Are you still actively working on the project, and recommend to mine it, as you believe, there is a future to AEON?

I know you are a Troll (our personal´s Aeon one), but this is a good opportunity to remember the philosophy of this coin.

Aeon a Light weight Monero fork, with better algorithm (criptonight lite) it's open source (if you want any improvement you are welcome) https://github.com/aeonix/aeon no premine (but if you want and invest a lot of money u could send a donation to Development Team).

This a community coin, we have much to thank to Dev. Team, donators, miners... but they haven't any obligation to anyone This coin (and all the other cripto coin)  only have potential, potential to make a great economic chance, and of course potential to stay in nothing (and lose everything). It´s all in our hands.

The 51% attack never happened in Aion is only hypothetically (like in all other POW criptos) if any want more information https://learncryptography.com/cryptocurrency/51-attack

There are a lot to make for development this coin, Trolling this post, is one, but of course not the better one.

Sorry for my poor english.
legendary
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@g8tguy

I'm not going to tell you what to do. If you think you should "Stop mining and sell all your coins ASAP" that is your choice to make.

Please read my earlier comments which have addressed most of your questions.

But frankly, I doubt you are really looking for answers; more likely you are looking to gain attention, provoke responses, and generally make a spectacle of yourself. I'm not playing.
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So let's sum up all the info we have until now.

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Smoot

(I suggested to the exchanges (the ones that I know about) that they disable their wallets until the update is ready because of the observed instability of the network. My recommendation will remain the same until the new release is ready because network instability could lead to major financial losses.

Exchanges make their own decisions about what to do. If hitbtc wants to use an unstable wallet, no one can stop them.

So the wallet is unstable, and using it may lead to major financial losses?! Doesn't' that means that any miner could be affected. We are talking about a regular shell wallet, where all the payments from the pools are coming.

I would read this like, "Stop mining and sell all your coins ASAP"

1.  51% attack, No Comment. 50/50 chance that it happened, the dev couldn't be trusted on this one.

2. BotNet - well, after the huge coin drops it became unprofitable even for botnet to savage on AEON, so they switched to SumoCoin and BitCoal

3. The current hash rate - sets the fair price around 0.00010-0.00013K

4.  The dev is in silent mode, watching how his coin is destroyed all over again.

Questions:

1. Smooth, could you tell us is it safe to use the wallet to store huge amount of coins and receive payment from the pools?

2. Smooth, could you tell us, when approximately the new code would be released?

3. Could you tell us, why you told the exchanges to lock the wallet, but didn't warn the miners that it could be dangerous to use it?

4. Smooth people trusted in AEON because of your reputation, some of us invested tens of thousand of dollars in it, I get it you don't care about the price and the market at all. but at least be honest, don't remain silent and tell us what to expect with actual info, not some vague excuses.

At least answer this question, do you think the wallet would be fixed it 1 month from now?

Are you still actively working on the project, and recommend to mine it, as you believe, there is a future to AEON?
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The wallet is locked on bittrex, and yet working on hitbit without a problem, so hypothetically it wasn't so necessary to disable it in the first place!

Exchanges make their own decisions about what to do. If hitbtc wants to use an unstable wallet, no one can stop them.

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And the Hash Rate rise is probably caused by some sort of BotNet, how did they deal with it at MONERO?

Monero has never done anything to "deal with" people who want to mine it. There is no KYC process for miners. Do you understand that?

Claiming that there is "too much" hash rate on a PoW coin is rather absurd when more hash rate is what makes the coin more secure. Don't be a cry baby if the hash rate (aka difficulty) is too high for you to mine with a high profit margin. Figure out how to mine more efficiently or go mine something else.

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And someone expressed suspicion to 51% attack, is it a possibility?

It is always a "possibility" but it was also not consistent with the observed data.

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Does anybody spoke with Smooth lately, is he still around?

Yes and yes.

Hope you can do it m8!

Good luck to you!
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I also think Aeon has a lot potential on the long term.
Maybe it's presumptuous, but it seems to me that the majority of the members of the community is more attached to the vision behind this currency, and the achievements that will bring the future improvements, than to the daily little fluctuations and the (eventual) profits of immediate speculation.

Smart people here  Wink makes me proud to be an Aeoner, and I hope little by little a bigger Aeowner  Grin

By the way, the technical statements and direction given by Smooth were very clear, It's really useless and counterproductive to argue and ask about it everyday ! We shouldn't pay too much attention to the desperate trolling of a few FUDders, and the best answer should be to ignore them until they are tired of their own absurd behavior.
Take your time, man, actually take all the time you need... Makers make, whiners whine, it's the normal course of things.
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Aeon its not a coin for speculate but have a lot of potential. When I look to a cripto, I only see the technical part, because all the other are (in the present time) smoke.

Becouse that, I like Aeon.
legendary
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The wallet is locked on bittrex, and yet working on hitbit without a problem, so hypothetically it wasn't so necessary to disable it in the first place!

Exchanges make their own decisions about what to do. If hitbtc wants to use an unstable wallet, no one can stop them.

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And the Hash Rate rise is probably caused by some sort of BotNet, how did they deal with it at MONERO?

Monero has never done anything to "deal with" people who want to mine it. There is no KYC process for miners. Do you understand that?

Claiming that there is "too much" hash rate on a PoW coin is rather absurd when more hash rate is what makes the coin more secure. Don't be a cry baby if the hash rate (aka difficulty) is too high for you to mine with a high profit margin. Figure out how to mine more efficiently or go mine something else.

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And someone expressed suspicion to 51% attack, is it a possibility?

It is always a "possibility" but it was also not consistent with the observed data.

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Does anybody spoke with Smooth lately, is he still around?

Yes and yes.
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there is a final working product well backed up by a team of devs. It's called Sumokoin.
Huge premine.
sr. member
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We should turn this ship around and go away from negativity.

For everyone disliking AEON or the development behind it - You are free to unsubscribe to AEON, no one is forced to like this coin
There are alternatives to monero other than aeon, yes, but some of us like aeon and stick to it. Please let us enjoy aeon in peace and we let you enjoy any other coin you want.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion about aeon, if bad or good. but fudding or demanding things from aeon doesnt help in any way. what we need is a constructive critic, solutions or suggestions of how we can handle things. else we wont make progress. such suggestions will be discussed in a civilized manner and since this is a community work, actions will be decided as a group.

We are all here to make a wonderful project come to live.



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well done I'm exposed now, you are pathetic instead of being professional, and talk to the point, about the actual state of the coin, you prefer to dig unrelated stuff. How exactly this helps to sell on bitrex if the fix will take until January 2018 (another 6 months)? And how is it solves the hash rate BotNet problem, of course, you can continue to stay in denil, but do you have some valid points except attacking my personality whether you like it or not?


Your lack of patience is mind-boggling. Just STFU and keep hodling & mining.

LOL, lack of patience. While there's been nothing or just promises and ridiculous fix attempts in here, there is a final working product well backed up by a team of devs. It's called Sumokoin. Do your homework.
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Every single shitcoin talks the same.
But it's right thing to do.
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well done I'm exposed now, you are pathetic instead of being professional, and talk to the point, about the actual state of the coin, you prefer to dig unrelated stuff. How exactly this helps to sell on bitrex if the fix will take until January 2018 (another 6 months)? And how is it solves the hash rate BotNet problem, of course, you can continue to stay in denil, but do you have some valid points except attacking my personality whether you like it or not?


Your lack of patience is mind-boggling. Just STFU and keep hodling & mining.
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 do you have some valid points except attacking my personality whether you like it or not?


Well, it's not so much about your personality, I don't know you.
But It's just that what you are saying doesn't help. Can you in concrete terms do something to fix the situation? It's an open source project, so feel free to take your responsibility and contribute if you can.
If not, let's trust the people who can do it. No need to panic and give contradictory speeches every 2 days...
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Well now it should be obvious, that previous Smooth message was just to win some time in order to dump all his coins on the market, his unresponsible and immature behavior literally, destroyed Aeon, man if you don't have time, just tell about it and step away, instead, we could've hired a normal developer to fix the bugs.

do you have an ETA, if not please tell us, what is going on and what to expect, take some responsibility!

I'm sorry, but it's really difficult to understand and to follow you.
Here's what you just said a few days ago :

you can think whatever you want, but this doesn't change the fact that now we have an official statement from the Developer, iOS wallet, web wallet coming and a road map for the future! This changes everything. My earlier posts are 100% relevant to the situation before we knew what is going with markets and code fixes. So, if you want to invest Aeon is a sure thing!

or again

This is my last message on this thread.

I suggest you should calm down, relax and breathe a little.
If not, please just let us relax.
Or please just go mine SZC (schizocoin) or BPOC (bipolarcoin). You don't find them? Wait, why don't you go and create them, if things are so wrong  with Aeon? I guess with your great skills and your high requirements, just as the perfect roadmap you probably have in mind, your currency will just become a new standard...

well done I'm exposed now, you are pathetic instead of being professional, and talk to the point, about the actual state of the coin, you prefer to dig unrelated stuff. How exactly this helps to sell on bitrex if the fix will take until January 2018 (another 6 months)? And how is it solves the hash rate BotNet problem, of course, you can continue to stay in denil, but do you have some valid points except attacking my personality whether you like it or not?
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Well now it should be obvious, that previous Smooth message was just to win some time in order to dump all his coins on the market, his unresponsible and immature behavior literally, destroyed Aeon, man if you don't have time, just tell about it and step away, instead, we could've hired a normal developer to fix the bugs.

do you have an ETA, if not please tell us, what is going on and what to expect, take some responsibility!

I'm sorry, but it's really difficult to understand and to follow you.
Here's what you just said a few days ago :

you can think whatever you want, but this doesn't change the fact that now we have an official statement from the Developer, iOS wallet, web wallet coming and a road map for the future! This changes everything. My earlier posts are 100% relevant to the situation before we knew what is going with markets and code fixes. So, if you want to invest Aeon is a sure thing!

or again

This is my last message on this thread.

I suggest you should calm down, relax and breathe a little.
If not, please just let us relax.
Or please just go mine SZC (schizocoin) or BPOC (bipolarcoin). You don't find them? Wait, why don't you go and create them, if things are so wrong  with Aeon? I guess with your great skills and your high requirements, just as the perfect roadmap you probably have in mind, your currency will just become a new standard...
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You just repeated what we already know, but at this point, after 3 weeks work on code rebase, it would be nice to have an ETA, how long will it take, month, year, forever?

The wallet is locked on bittrex, and yet working on hitbit without a problem, so hypothetically it wasn't so necessary to disable it in the first place!

And the Hash Rate rise is probably caused by some sort of BotNet, how did they deal with it at MONERO?

And someone expressed suspicion to 51% attack, is it a possibility?

I am asking direct questions, it you don't know the answers, why to react at all?


AEON is not a business company who has to stick to shedules set by stockowners.

Since programming can be very complex, specially in a pioneer environment, it can be very challenging to set a fix date. Not even companies can perfectly stick to their shedules (see why AGILE projectmethod was created). Its better to just spend as much work as needed on the rebase without resheduling the release hundred times. this rebase must be carefully crafted, so all future changes have a good base.

If you want an estimate, i guess the time would be between end of october and january/february of next year for the release of the new code.

If you want to speed up things, offer your free voluntary service as developer to smooth. (paid developer are a waste of fund money and the knowledge will be lost once the work is done).

About the wallet, you can also ask bittrex why they stick to the locked wallet. Its not like smooth runs bittrex himself.....

Each week someone expresses his fear about the 51% attack on AEON and yet still no proofs. If there should be a real attack that endangers AEON, we will hardfork, common practice to solve such issues.

Because Im the last one probably to still have the nerves to answer:P
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Well now it should be obvious, that previous Smooth message was just to win some time in order to dump all his coins on the market, his unresponsible and immature behavior literally, destroyed Aeon, man if you don't have time, just tell about it and step away, instead, we could've hired a normal developer to fix the bugs.

do you have an ETA, if not please tell us, what is going on and what to expect, take some responsibility!



Damn dude, for someone who doesnt do a damn thing for AEON or the community, you sure do have a big mouth^^

*setting timer when g8tguy gets banned or downvoted*

Entertaining hehe
Wonder though what kind of drugs are involved^^

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we could've hired a normal developer to fix the bugs.

Woah woah, rich business man here with a perfect development roadmap, tell us more Cheesy

Sorry dude but at this point cant take you serious anymore....


do you have some relevant info to say? I'm just asking the status of the coin:

2. What is done about the latest DDOOS?
3. When bittrex wallet would be fixed?
4. Should we mine it with the current HashRate or wait?

and it is always easy to insult people, ban them if you don't like the things they are saying. but instead of being so clever, could you maybe stick to the point and talk about technical aspects, and thing related to the coin, rather than reacting with aggression and insults?

Accusing people and FUDDING is not asking about the status of the coin...

2. What DDOOS are you talking about? Any proofs? ASAIK It was one pool who created orphanblocks
3. It will be fixed once code rebase is done. Smooth informed them to keep the wallet closed till its fixed. If you really wanna have your money back, you can sell your AEON still for BTC and then withdraw BTC.
4. What? This is fully your decision and can not be made by any other. Is it worth for you?
Yes its more difficult to mine because higher difficulty, but waiting doesnt help either. Most mine to help secure the network and not for temporarily shortterm gains. For shortterm gains, other coins have a better ROI at the moment. Longterm, is up to each person to decide.

You just repeated what we already know, but at this point, after 3 weeks work on code rebase, it would be nice to have an ETA, how long will it take, month, year, forever?

The wallet is locked on bittrex, and yet working on hitbit without a problem, so hypothetically it wasn't so necessary to disable it in the first place!

And the Hash Rate rise is probably caused by some sort of BotNet, how did they deal with it at MONERO?

And someone expressed suspicion to 51% attack, is it a possibility?

I am asking direct questions, it you don't know the answers, why to react at all?


sr. member
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Well now it should be obvious, that previous Smooth message was just to win some time in order to dump all his coins on the market, his unresponsible and immature behavior literally, destroyed Aeon, man if you don't have time, just tell about it and step away, instead, we could've hired a normal developer to fix the bugs.

do you have an ETA, if not please tell us, what is going on and what to expect, take some responsibility!



Damn dude, for someone who doesnt do a damn thing for AEON or the community, you sure do have a big mouth^^

*setting timer when g8tguy gets banned or downvoted*

Entertaining hehe
Wonder though what kind of drugs are involved^^

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we could've hired a normal developer to fix the bugs.

Woah woah, rich business man here with a perfect development roadmap, tell us more Cheesy

Sorry dude but at this point cant take you serious anymore....


do you have some relevant info to say? I'm just asking the status of the coin:

2. What is done about the latest DDOOS?
3. When bittrex wallet would be fixed?
4. Should we mine it with the current HashRate or wait?

and it is always easy to insult people, ban them if you don't like the things they are saying. but instead of being so clever, could you maybe stick to the point and talk about technical aspects, and thing related to the coin, rather than reacting with aggression and insults?

Accusing people and FUDDING is not asking about the status of the coin...

2. What DDOOS are you talking about? Any proofs? ASAIK It was one pool who created orphanblocks
3. It will be fixed once code rebase is done. Smooth informed them to keep the wallet closed till its fixed. If you really wanna have your money back, you can sell your AEON still for BTC and then withdraw BTC.
4. What? This is fully your decision and can not be made by any other. Is it worth for you?
Yes its more difficult to mine because higher difficulty, but waiting doesnt help either. Most mine to help secure the network and not for temporarily shortterm gains. For shortterm gains, other coins have a better ROI at the moment. Longterm, is up to each person to decide.
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