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Topic: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] - page 197. (Read 625666 times)

legendary
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Also of possible interest, the debate over the Aeon logo 'rages' on over on the speculation topic (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12983825 I know we've gone around and around about this, but I'm really starting to dig the following (unsymmetrical) design.  It caught my eye the very first time I saw it and frustrated me in a certain way - though also it had a certain captivating charm to it.  
  
 
  
Now after seeing it for a couple of weeks it has a certain futuristic charm to it, and many casual friends I've shown it to seem to prefer it as well.  
  
Just something to consider.
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TPTB_need_war has donated the domain ion.cash to the AEON project. While that domain is not identical to our name, it is similar and the domain could be used for some sort of affiliated or independent project that supports AEON, or just redirected.

However, the issue we have had is that transferring the domain to his registrar to ours has not been working for some reason. I'd like to not spend any more time on this so I'm looking for a volunteer to manage the process of getting the domain transferred. PM me if you are willing to do this.



Does this mean TPTB will be working on Aeon now?

No
That domain name is awesome though.... Hey Smooth, have you already nailed down the fractional breakout names, like Smoothoshi or whatever? Maybe an ion could be a fraction of an aeon? Or maybe branding wise that would be too much of a reach... It all sounds atomic-like almost. aeons, ions, voltrons, etc... I think I'm lost now.

Since an aeon is a very long unit of time, if you stick to this branding, perhaps use a "planck" as the smallest unit? see: http://www.universetoday.com/79418/planck-time/

i think "eon" is a long period of time.
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Thanks for the pointer Andretti83. I wasn't aware of the social network feed feature on coinmarketcap.

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There has been some discussion on Aeon subunit names over on the Speculation topic but nothing is decided.  As always, this won't be 'decided' until there is actually a need and the community at that time comes to a consensus on it. 
 
There are two possibilities due to the fact that each Aeon has 1 trillion possible sub-units. 
 
1 AEON = 1 million sub-unit (A) 
1 sub-unit (a) = 1 million sub-unit (B) 
 
This would follow the 'bit' philosophy, except we can break down our 'bits' into additional millionths. 
 
However I like the far more tempting (and useful) metric of breaking it down into ten thousandths. 
 
1 AEON = 10,000 sub-unit (A) 
1 sub-unit (A) = 10,000 sub-unit (B) 
1 sub-unit (B) = 10,000 sub-unit (C) 
 
Whether these sub-units are called ions, or plancks, or quarks, or credits, or anything else is left to the reader's imagination.
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I asked coinmarketcap.com to add aeon reddit feed, and they did.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/aeon/#social

Maybe its just me, but considering my reddit account filter posts with less than 100 upvotes, aeon feed always looks empty.
It is much easier to check new reddit posts on social tab of coinmarketcap. Especially since they agregate aeon twitter account too.

Maybe it will be usefull for someone else, not just me.

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TPTB_need_war has donated the domain ion.cash to the AEON project. While that domain is not identical to our name, it is similar and the domain could be used for some sort of affiliated or independent project that supports AEON, or just redirected.

However, the issue we have had is that transferring the domain to his registrar to ours has not been working for some reason. I'd like to not spend any more time on this so I'm looking for a volunteer to manage the process of getting the domain transferred. PM me if you are willing to do this.



Does this mean TPTB will be working on Aeon now?

No
That domain name is awesome though.... Hey Smooth, have you already nailed down the fractional breakout names, like Smoothoshi or whatever? Maybe an ion could be a fraction of an aeon? Or maybe branding wise that would be too much of a reach... It all sounds atomic-like almost. aeons, ions, voltrons, etc... I think I'm lost now.

Since an aeon is a very long unit of time, if you stick to this branding, perhaps use a "planck" as the smallest unit? see: http://www.universetoday.com/79418/planck-time/
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TPTB_need_war has donated the domain ion.cash to the AEON project. While that domain is not identical to our name, it is similar and the domain could be used for some sort of affiliated or independent project that supports AEON, or just redirected.

However, the issue we have had is that transferring the domain to his registrar to ours has not been working for some reason. I'd like to not spend any more time on this so I'm looking for a volunteer to manage the process of getting the domain transferred. PM me if you are willing to do this.



Does this mean TPTB will be working on Aeon now?

No
That domain name is awesome though.... Hey Smooth, have you already nailed down the fractional breakout names, like Smoothoshi or whatever? Maybe an ion could be a fraction of an aeon? Or maybe branding wise that would be too much of a reach... It all sounds atomic-like almost. aeons, ions, voltrons, etc... I think I'm lost now.
legendary
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TPTB_need_war has donated the domain ion.cash to the AEON project. While that domain is not identical to our name, it is similar and the domain could be used for some sort of affiliated or independent project that supports AEON, or just redirected.

However, the issue we have had is that transferring the domain to his registrar to ours has not been working for some reason. I'd like to not spend any more time on this so I'm looking for a volunteer to manage the process of getting the domain transferred. PM me if you are willing to do this.



Does this mean TPTB will be working on Aeon now?

No
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TPTB_need_war has donated the domain ion.cash to the AEON project. While that domain is not identical to our name, it is similar and the domain could be used for some sort of affiliated or independent project that supports AEON, or just redirected.

However, the issue we have had is that transferring the domain to his registrar to ours has not been working for some reason. I'd like to not spend any more time on this so I'm looking for a volunteer to manage the process of getting the domain transferred. PM me if you are willing to do this.



Does this mean TPTB will be working on Aeon now?
legendary
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TPTB_need_war has donated the domain ion.cash to the AEON project. While that domain is not identical to our name, it is similar and the domain could be used for some sort of affiliated or independent project that supports AEON, or just redirected.

However, the issue we have had is that transferring the domain to his registrar to ours has not been working for some reason. I'd like to not spend any more time on this so I'm looking for a volunteer to manage the process of getting the domain transferred. PM me if you are willing to do this.

legendary
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I suppose this is a bit of a late vote, but still wanted to express an opinion on this one for the record.
Looks like Moo had a very special find there, I'm all-in for the 8/9 inflation rate!  Smiley
 
 
There is a pretty intense discussion about Aeon logos happening over on the Speculation topic right now if anyone is interested in offering their opinion on it.

I've been traveling, but on and off I am keeping tabs on that thread as well, some really nice logos in the works. I'm also not sure that we really need a new logo, but some of the new design elements presented do get me excited, so there's that. Will definitely post some feedback there once I'm settled home again, and I also encourage everyone to follow/participate on that discussion!
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I suppose this is a bit of a late vote, but still wanted to express an opinion on this one for the record.
Looks like Moo had a very special find there, I'm all-in for the 8/9 inflation rate!  Smiley
 
 
There is a pretty intense discussion about Aeon logos happening over on the Speculation topic right now if anyone is interested in offering their opinion on it.
legendary
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Okay let's consider this an official proposal then, open for comments:

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Once the base reward declines below 0.3/minute, then reward will switch to inflationary at a target rate of 0.8888888....%/year (actual rate may deviate slightly in practice due to variations in block rate, block reward penalty, rounding, etc.)

I suppose this is a bit of a late vote, but still wanted to express an opinion on this one for the record.
Looks like Moo had a very special find there, I'm all-in for the 8/9 inflation rate!  Smiley
legendary
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@smooth & americanpegasus:

Pruning FAQ

Q: How does pruning affect functionality?

A: The only inherent functional limitation of AEON's pruning is the inability to restore (also known as rescan) a wallet which was used for spending transactions. All other functionality including sending and receiving coins, mining, updating a wallet after any period of inactivity, cold storage, mining, etc. remain fully supported.

I think this part may no longer be correct. I implemented a work-around for the issue, meaning that even old wallets should sync correctly even against a pruned node. Has anyone tested this and can report either way?

Arux tested this and confirmed that the limitation is still there. I had implemented a partial workaround (for cold storage or inactive wallets) but it does not apply if the wallet was actively used for spending.

legendary
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@smooth & americanpegasus:

Pruning FAQ

Q: How does pruning affect functionality?

A: The only inherent functional limitation of AEON's pruning is the inability to restore (also known as rescan) a wallet which was used for spending transactions. All other functionality including sending and receiving coins, mining, updating a wallet after any period of inactivity, cold storage, mining, etc. remain fully supported.

I think this part may no longer be correct. I implemented a work-around for the issue, meaning that even old wallets should sync correctly even against a pruned node. Has anyone tested this and can report either way?

legendary
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Not sure what you mean by "light". We have a pruning branch which drops most blockchain data but still functions as a full node, and a design for an SPV-like wallet.

Mobile wallets are planned but not under immediate development. Third parties may take that on once the libraries for SPV-like wallet functions are released, or if the project grows we might do it ourselves. Hard to say at this point.

 
 
Will there ever be an ELI5 version of how a cryptographic ring based blockchain can implement pruning?  The whole concept fucks me up.  If any input can at any time become an output at any point in the future when needed, how can you safely prune *any* of it?  Of course I am still learning about how it all works under the hood, so perhaps it's my understanding that is to blame.

There is a FAQ up in the thread that explains how it works, advantages, disadvantages, etc. Summary is that only the outputs and spent key image set are retained. The rest of the transaction (which is the vast majority of its size) is dropped
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Not sure what you mean by "light". We have a pruning branch which drops most blockchain data but still functions as a full node, and a design for an SPV-like wallet.

Mobile wallets are planned but not under immediate development. Third parties may take that on once the libraries for SPV-like wallet functions are released, or if the project grows we might do it ourselves. Hard to say at this point.

 
  
Will there ever be an ELI5 version of how a cryptographic ring based blockchain can implement pruning?  The whole concept fucks me up.  If any input can at any time become an output at any point in the future when needed, how can you safely prune *any* of it?  Of course I am still learning about how it all works under the hood, so perhaps it's my understanding that is to blame.
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