[ANN] æternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] - page 267.

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Quote from: drawingthesun on May 03, 2017, 05:29:26 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on May 03, 2017, 04:58:30 AM

My argument holds for BTC and USD. You mean that people will be satisfied that they "lost" money in BTC and USD but are OK in terms of ETH only?

That would make die hard fans of eth and this project is actually another eth implementation so it creates and even bigger paradox

Well I am against it as it screws every ICO investor that used ETH out of their ETH.

It's not like the round two amounts were to be announced.

They were published for everyone to see.

To modify them after the fact isn't fair.

If AE does that I have literally lost ETH for no good reason.

Guys,

I replied at Reddit, pasting my reply here as well:

Thank you for voicing your concerns. Let me try addressing them.

1. We have received (and are currently still receiving) many developer applications. We are currently screening them and having interviews. We have some people in a testing phase working with us, since we want to make sure that we hire really good fits. As soon as we have tech people joining the team - we'll announce it and have them on the website.

2. Regarding the ratio between ETH and AE tokens. There are two sides to this. On one side there are the people who already contributed and there are the future contributors. Both have diverging interests. We believe that the best way to balance those is not to change what has already been announced.

There are factors outside of our control. The best way to adapt to them is to persevere.

Regards,
Vlad

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on May 03, 2017, 04:58:30 AM

My argument holds for BTC and USD. You mean that people will be satisfied that they "lost" money in BTC and USD but are OK in terms of ETH only?

That would make die hard fans of eth and this project is actually another eth implementation so it creates and even bigger paradox

Well I am against it as it screws every ICO investor that used ETH out of their ETH.

It's not like the round two amounts were to be announced.

They were published for everyone to see.

To modify them after the fact isn't fair.

If AE does that I have literally lost ETH for no good reason.

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Quote from: Merovingian on May 03, 2017, 12:56:33 AM

Quote from: eastwind_ja on May 03, 2017, 12:46:53 AM

AETERNITY is a real good project , all people are looking good to this coin.
what i want to ask is when the ledger wallet will be delivered to ico participants , has the plan come out ?

Aeternity is in the process of processing orders and expect to be shipping by the end of May.
https://github.com/aeternity/testnet/wiki/Claiming-Your-Ledger

thank you very much , got your help and have claimed my Ledger , hope I can get my gift as soon as possible, it is amazing.

aeternity dev team is doing everything so well , perfect project

PGPpfKkx

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Quote from: drawingthesun on May 03, 2017, 02:58:28 AM

Quote from: PGPpfKkx on May 03, 2017, 02:21:31 AM

Some basic questions:

1) On github the main developer is 1 and only 1, zack with some few lines of code from the project leader. Projects that have 1 coder and 10 marketing/advisores etc fail IMO. How is this scalable?

2) When someone participated in the first ICO phase he paid 1ETH=30$ for 1000 ae tokens. Now he will pay 1ETH=85$ for 800 ae tokens.

This is not 1000->800 but really 0.03 -> 0.10 difference or put it another way getting 3 times less ae tokens for your money.

Since ae mainnet is not live, this creates a paradox of a coin tripling its market value *before launch* just because another coin used for the ICO increased in price.

For sure this can't be right with economic analysis.

Perhaps, however as you know most people invest and count gains against the big boys, BTC and ETH.

If AE were to change it so the second round got a better ETH deal, I think there would be a big problem with that.

Am I talking my book? Sure, but that is what everyone does.

Honestly I never actually invested that much, but if they turned around and said the second round got a better ETH deal, I would ask for a refund.

Why? Because people invested in round one already knowing the details for round two, in fact everyone did, that was already on the ICO page, what the ETH price for round two is going to be.

So it would be a major f**k you to the investors to go back on their word.

My argument holds for BTC and USD. You mean that people will be satisfied that they "lost" money in BTC and USD but are OK in terms of ETH only?

That would make die hard fans of eth and this project is actually another eth implementation so it creates and even bigger paradox

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Quote from: vdramaliev on May 03, 2017, 04:31:53 AM

Quote from: Cryptorials on May 03, 2017, 03:49:31 AM

I'm having a very confusing time trying to claim my ledger nano S.

I contributed using myetherwallet.

The address of the myetherwallet I created shows as having contributed 0 ether when I look it up on wallet.aeternity.com, but here is where it gets weird: I used the same wallet to contribute to Lunyr ICO, and recently transferred my tokens from my wallet to an exchange. If I follow the link to ethplorer to view my transaction history from myetherwallet I can see the send of LUN tokens and they show as coming from my Eth address; but if I look up the TXID of the payment in which the exchange says they received those same tokens it shows as coming from a different address. I therefore have two different txids and two different 'from' addresses for the same transaction, which seems very weird to me. When I use the exchange provided txid and take the 'from' address (which I've never seen before) and enter that on wallet.aeternity then suddenly my correct contribution shows up. But I don't know how to access that address.

Hey,

I have forwarded your inquiry to the people in charge of the claim process.

Will let you know.

Regards,
Vlad

Thanks Vlad.

I'm very curious what is happening here; I can only speculated that payments are being sent through some kind of wallet contract but I don't why or what to do about it.

vdramaliev

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Quote from: Cryptorials on May 03, 2017, 03:49:31 AM

I'm having a very confusing time trying to claim my ledger nano S.

I contributed using myetherwallet.

The address of the myetherwallet I created shows as having contributed 0 ether when I look it up on wallet.aeternity.com, but here is where it gets weird: I used the same wallet to contribute to Lunyr ICO, and recently transferred my tokens from my wallet to an exchange. If I follow the link to ethplorer to view my transaction history from myetherwallet I can see the send of LUN tokens and they show as coming from my Eth address; but if I look up the TXID of the payment in which the exchange says they received those same tokens it shows as coming from a different address. I therefore have two different txids and two different 'from' addresses for the same transaction, which seems very weird to me. When I use the exchange provided txid and take the 'from' address (which I've never seen before) and enter that on wallet.aeternity then suddenly my correct contribution shows up. But I don't know how to access that address.

Hey,

I have forwarded your inquiry to the people in charge of the claim process.

Will let you know.

Regards,
Vlad

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I'm having a very confusing time trying to claim my ledger nano S.

I contributed using myetherwallet.

The address of the myetherwallet I created shows as having contributed 0 ether when I look it up on wallet.aeternity.com, but here is where it gets weird: I used the same wallet to contribute to Lunyr ICO, and recently transferred my tokens from my wallet to an exchange. If I follow the link to ethplorer to view my transaction history from myetherwallet I can see the send of LUN tokens and they show as coming from my Eth address; but if I look up the TXID of the payment in which the exchange says they received those same tokens it shows as coming from a different address. I therefore have two different txids and two different 'from' addresses for the same transaction, which seems very weird to me. When I use the exchange provided txid and take the 'from' address (which I've never seen before) and enter that on wallet.aeternity then suddenly my correct contribution shows up. But I don't know how to access that address.

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Quote from: vdramaliev on May 02, 2017, 07:51:22 AM

Everyone,

A new piece about æternity was just published.

READ AT FORKLOG

Regards,
Vlad

I also believe æternity will be future of smart contracts this is very informative article and worth to read. Phase 2 will be amazing as so many people are waiting to get started of this.

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Quote from: PGPpfKkx on May 03, 2017, 02:21:31 AM

Some basic questions:

1) On github the main developer is 1 and only 1, zack with some few lines of code from the project leader. Projects that have 1 coder and 10 marketing/advisores etc fail IMO. How is this scalable?

2) When someone participated in the first ICO phase he paid 1ETH=30$ for 1000 ae tokens. Now he will pay 1ETH=85$ for 800 ae tokens.

This is not 1000->800 but really 0.03 -> 0.10 difference or put it another way getting 3 times less ae tokens for your money.

Since ae mainnet is not live, this creates a paradox of a coin tripling its market value *before launch* just because another coin used for the ICO increased in price.

For sure this can't be right with economic analysis.

Perhaps, however as you know most people invest and count gains against the big boys, BTC and ETH.

If AE were to change it so the second round got a better ETH deal, I think there would be a big problem with that.

Am I talking my book? Sure, but that is what everyone does.

Honestly I never actually invested that much, but if they turned around and said the second round got a better ETH deal, I would ask for a refund.

Why? Because people invested in round one already knowing the details for round two, in fact everyone did, that was already on the ICO page, what the ETH price for round two is going to be.

So it would be a major f**k you to the investors to go back on their word.

PGPpfKkx

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Some basic questions:

1) On github the main developer is 1 and only 1, zack with some few lines of code from the project leader. Projects that have 1 coder and 10 marketing/advisores etc fail IMO. How is this scalable?

2) When someone participated in the first ICO phase he paid 1ETH=30$ for 1000 ae tokens. Now he will pay 1ETH=85$ for 800 ae tokens.

This is not 1000->800 but really 0.03 -> 0.10 difference or put it another way getting 3 times less ae tokens for your money.

Since ae mainnet is not live, this creates a paradox of a coin tripling its market value *before launch* just because another coin used for the ICO increased in price.

For sure this can't be right with economic analysis.

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Quote from: eastwind_ja on May 03, 2017, 12:46:53 AM

AETERNITY is a real good project , all people are looking good to this coin.
what i want to ask is when the ledger wallet will be delivered to ico participants , has the plan come out ?

Aeternity is in the process of processing orders and expect to be shipping by the end of May.
https://github.com/aeternity/testnet/wiki/Claiming-Your-Ledger

eastwind_ja

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AETERNITY is a real good project , all people are looking good to this coin.
what i want to ask is when the ledger wallet will be delivered to ico participants , has the plan come out ?

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Quote from: vdramaliev on May 02, 2017, 07:51:22 AM

Everyone,

A new piece about æternity was just published.

READ AT FORKLOG

Regards,
Vlad

Good article you are best dev team and this project will make great success. I am waiting for second round of ICO wish you good luck for that.

vdramaliev

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Everyone,

A new piece about æternity was just published.

READ AT FORKLOG

Regards,
Vlad

vdramaliev

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Quote from: Diego24 on May 02, 2017, 02:49:10 AM

Quote from: vdramaliev on May 01, 2017, 10:03:15 AM

Bounty is indeed pretty good, but maybe try to do it out of interest and willingness to learn

I am willing to learn but I looked videos of you, but I don't understand what makes your project so much better than Ethereum.

You say that AE has access to real world data. I don't understand how other projects don't have that. There are many blockchain projects already started to work with real stock trading data and other kind of data , so I wonder how you can use this as a selling point.

You talk about prediction markets ... there are many projects already working on that.

You talk about offchain solutions. This is also being discussed by other projects and not really that much of a rocket science.

I don't see what makes you different with other projects. Maybe I am wrong and if I am, could you please elaborate on it ?

Hey,

Great questions! Let me address them in turn.

1. Real world data is available, sure. However, it comes from "centralized" sources. That means that if the incentive is high enough (the smart contract "listening" for info from that source manages a lot of value) these centralized sources might "malfunction" and produce bad info for the benefit of a certain third party. æternity wants to address this issue by producing and using information through prediction markets.

2. Other prediction market projects already available are "attachments" to blockchain platforms. For example Gnosis is built on top of Ethereum. This creates numerous complications and rises the cost of using the markets. In æternity, prediction markets are built-in in the consensus mechanism.

3. Off-chain solutions currently discussed relate to transactions primarily (for ex. Lightning Network). As far as I am aware, putting smart contracts in state channels is an innovation that will be introduced by æternity.

For detailed information about the aforementioned features, please refer to æternity's whitepaper.

Thanks!

Regards,
Vlad

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Quote from: vdramaliev on May 01, 2017, 10:03:15 AM

Bounty is indeed pretty good, but maybe try to do it out of interest and willingness to learn

I am willing to learn but I looked videos of you, but I don't understand what makes your project so much better than Ethereum.

You say that AE has access to real world data. I don't understand how other projects don't have that. There are many blockchain projects already started to work with real stock trading data and other kind of data , so I wonder how you can use this as a selling point.

You talk about prediction markets ... there are many projects already working on that.

You talk about offchain solutions. This is also being discussed by other projects and not really that much of a rocket science.

I don't see what makes you different with other projects. Maybe I am wrong and if I am, could you please elaborate on it ?

vdramaliev

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Quote from: jtalk on April 30, 2017, 05:41:08 AM

This wiki contribution allocation is very good and reward is very good as well. I will give it a look to see how and what can I do to be participate in the latest updated reward program for wiki contributors. I didn't do this kind of work before but together we learn and grow let's see if I succeed to this task. At least will be way of learning something new by trying in this.

Hello,

Bounty is indeed pretty good, but maybe try to do it out of interest and willingness to learn

Regards,
Vlad

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Quote from: AdobeWriter on April 30, 2017, 05:21:15 AM

Hello! Is there going to be a minimum amount of ETH I'll be required to invest if I want to take part in the ICO? Like the minimum amount of tokens you can buy is worth 1 ETH for example.

Hey,

There is no minimum contribution amount.

Regards,
Vlad

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Quote from: AdobeWriter on April 30, 2017, 05:21:15 AM

Hello! Is there going to be a minimum amount of ETH I'll be required to invest if I want to take part in the ICO? Like the minimum amount of tokens you can buy is worth 1 ETH for example.

Hi, yes, if you will contribute less then 0.01ETH this will be like charity, because 0.01 barely covers gas costs

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This wiki contribution allocation is very good and reward is very good as well. I will give it a look to see how and what can I do to be participate in the latest updated reward program for wiki contributors. I didn't do this kind of work before but together we learn and grow let's see if I succeed to this task. At least will be way of learning something new by trying in this.

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