Topic: [ANN] Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE - page 2. (Read 549 times)

Appreciate your post! Always happy to help 

CoinPayCard.net helped to solve the issue. Thank you. Will to try use the card)

So, to clarify, this would only be the case for new users. We don't expect that it will ever happen, but for full transparency reasons, we just shared our next-step-plan in case that would ever happen. We will definitely take your tip and add that line today to our ToS. If we should make any platform or policy changes, users would be able to withdraw 100% of their funds if necessary without compromising their privacy 100%.

Some will not be happy with that and imho you should offer those (if there will ever be the case) the option to withdraw their existing funds before leaving the platform.
Even more if you have this kind of things in your ToS, it would be imho a good advertising to clearly write that the users who want to leave in case KYC is suddenly asked will be able to withdraw their existing funds.

Absolutely, and understandably. We have thought hard about our pricing for months, and we think these prices are more than fair at the moment. And we certainly have no plans to raise our prices in the future.
Also, as a very important note, all our card issuers and payment processors know what kind of service we provide. So we don't do this under their noses. The only way for us not to provide KYC-FREE cards is going to be because of law changes. Even if so, we can just switch to our other card issuers in just 5 minutes. If in a case suddenly all card issuer don't want a KYC-FREE card anymore, then we will ask for a simple form of photo ID for new users to still continue our service.

So we have back-up plans for back-up plans to always ensure we can offer cards to our crypto users worldwide.

I honestly hope you'll be here for the "long marathon". I am a chicken and I will not risk my money yet (too many similar businesses didn't get to last more than a couple of weeks, sorry), but if you pass the test of time and remain close to this level of prices I will very much consider using too your services.


LE: after seeing your later "answers" I start doubting your honesty. Sorry.

You are absolute right, we could 100% ask higher prices. However, we are here for the long marathon. We wanted our service to be affordable for the masses, and continue to upgrade our platform. Our app is also coming in the next month to make card creating and funding much easier and accessible. 

Hi Rogue_Sol,
First off, thank you for using and trusting us.

You probably only paid for the card and not the Top-Up. When clicking on "Create A New Card" you can choose the card plan, after clicking on "create" you will be shown a payment address. After the payment, only then your card is created and activated.

After that, you can go to your card and click on "Top-Up Card", you will then be shown a new payment address to fund your card. Did you maybe underpay the payment? You can shoot me a private message with your user email and I can have a look for you.

Thanks,

I've try to use the service..... Account created, login.... Button "Create a new card",  click.... Card created. Two link - "Card details" and "Top-up card". Click Top-up. Write amount, got address for USDT ERC20 and sum of USDT. Send.... 3 hour gone, balance is zero till now. 

We all know that the biggest problem with such services is trust, and that things can go downhill at any moment, but that's always a risk if you're looking for anonymous services. The Basic plan seems like a good option considering the price of only $99 per year, which is really not expensive if we compare it to other services that offer anonymous cards with a fee that is up to 10 times higher.

Maybe it sounds too good to be true, and maybe time will show that it really is, who knows, we'll see.

Hello digaran,

Let me answer your questions.

No, we are not affiliated with VISA, as we are NOT a bank. We work with card issuers to issue our cards. You can google it more to figure out how that works.
Every website/service even BitcoinTalk.org cannot guarantee that their service will work 100% of the time. There can be a dozen of reason why a service disruption would be happening, for example our hosting provider
gets cut of electricity. Our card issuer suffers from a disturbance, our payment system API is out. We are just a transparent about the availability of our service as we can be. And we of course don't expect such things to happen, these things happen to the best.

Moreover, we are new on this forum and our service is new. Ass we said in our pre-announcement and in the announcement text.

Are you affiliated with visa? If you are then how could they issue cards KYC free or allow anyone to provide a free KYC service using their name and network of payment?

If you are not affiliated with them, how can you claim that your cards work every where that visa is accepted?

Note for potential users of this service: read the terms, they are clearly stating that there is no guaranty/warranty for their service to work, so that means you should not trust a service which offers zero guaranty of providing a reliable service.

A red flag, I wouldn't vouch for such service if I were a reputable forum member. Moreover, forum reputation is not credible at all whatsoever.

Hi dkbit98, thank you for your advice. I can assure you that we have years of experience using, handling and building on crypto, so I can brag a little that we are experts in this field.

There are several types of service that these 3rd party provides. Please go to their website, and you may find more information about their service. If you used the costumer side
of Coinbase for example, their Exchange YOU are maybe limited in what coins you can send and from where. We don't use consumer grade services, we use Institutional level services, which gives us much more power in what kind of transactions we can accept and how. We also don't use their service to directly accepted payments from users. Furthermore, we use our own internal relay system. That means user pay first to us -> then coins are sent to a 3rd party service provider (also called off-ramps) in order to exchange the coins to for example USD in real-time. However, the moment you send a payment, there is and will be always a check to verify that the wallet you used is not blacklisted by any government entity. Not doing so would make us money launders, and banks wouldn't work with us to issue cards. This is explained as simple as possible, but the systems and infrastructure behind the scenes are more complicated than you would guess.

I hope this clears it more up for you.

Binance and Coinbase obviously care about this!
Sorry but you obviously don't know what you are talking about, or you just recently started dealing with crypto, but I can show you many examples of coins being seized for reasons I mentioned above.
I am not twisting anyone words, since I asked initial question and I know what I meant to say.
Good luck with your cards, and don't say later that I didn't warn you about this in advance.

Hello dkbit98,

We are talking here about plain sight stolen coins in a wallet, you never mentioned coins coming from gambling or mixing. These coins will ofcourse not be blacklisted. I think everybody that uses crypto knows if they have stolen coins, they won't send it to any service directly.

So if you have stolen coins in a wallet that is blacklisted, no matter what service or website you will use. Your funds will not come true. If you have coins from gambling or mixing, who cares. You can use these coins.
Please don't twist our words.

But again, till the whole conversation is absolutely off-topic. We are not a service to be used for illegal activities, such as money laundering.

Excuse me but this is not off-topic at all.
Your customer would be sending coins to you directly and since you didn't mention anything about third parties on your website, they could lose their coins.
Exchanges can flag or blacklist coins for various stupid reasons, and they don't have to give any proof or explanation, this includes coins used for gambling or coins coming from mixer or coinjoin.
Better think about that in advance, or use some different methods to deal with this.

Better be sure, because they are certainly going to ask for kyc verification or other private information.

This question is a bit off-topic.

So to be clear, no, we don't accept any stole coins. If somebody uses a wallet that is blacklisted to buy/fund a card, the coins will be frozen by the 3rd party handling our payments. What then will happen next
is not something we have experienced, and I'm not sure. So i won't be the right person to provide information about that procedure. I can only guess that law enforcement will be contacted in order to return those coins to their respect owners, I guess.


Understandable, as I responded to your question: We would love to provide some free cards to reputable BitcoinTalk users to test out the service free of charge.
P.s. we don't share our card issuer, that is private information.

It says in your site that when we give you crypto you charge the card with USD, that means exchange/trading usdt for USD. You failed to answer about your card issuer though.
Someone asked for a test card, try and give a few free cards so people can vouch that your service is working.
But trusting an online entity without a physical address with money is beyond stupid, just saying.

Let me clarify this, what exactly means when you say that transaction will be blocked if wallet is blacklisted?

Imagine someone is sending coins that originate from stolen coins and Binance/Coinbase blacklisted them.
Customer registers account on your CoinPayCard website and sends coins to generated address, what happens next exactly?
Can this coins be frozen or seized in any way by you or third parties?

No, that is not what kind of service we provide. A user can buy/fund Virtual Debit cards with USDT. When funding your card with USDT, your card will be instant funded and ready to use.

We would love to provide some free cards to reputable BitcoinTalk users to test out the service free of charge.