Seen a heap of buy's at cryptsy today too without people relisting sell orders, looks like theres a growing number of people holding onto the coin until it gets even more public.
Topic: [ANN] [ASIC-RESISTANT] UltraCoin (UTC) - Ultrafast 6 second transactions!! - page 323. (Read 946650 times)
March 23, 2014, 04:09:27 AM
Good buy opportunities on mintpal at the moment, just got another 2k UTC so am getting closer to having 10k
Seen a heap of buy's at cryptsy today too without people relisting sell orders, looks like theres a growing number of people holding onto the coin until it gets even more public.
Seen a heap of buy's at cryptsy today too without people relisting sell orders, looks like theres a growing number of people holding onto the coin until it gets even more public.
March 23, 2014, 03:56:43 AM
Does anyone know what was that?
My avast found it
My avast found it
March 23, 2014, 02:06:25 AM
Hey guys, just installed the patch on CGminer. It seems to have worked but when I run it I get this error
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
I get that when I try to run CGminer with a 5450 connected to my PC
I thought 3.7.2 was latest version
March 23, 2014, 02:03:00 AM
which reminds me again i should start on that wallet ..
tho my hands are really tied until end april
tho my hands are really tied until end april
March 23, 2014, 01:28:14 AM
@bumface / everyone
Why don't we create a public bounty system for things we need?
Each bounty will have its own wallet where people will send UTC to make the bounty bigger.
Some other coins use such system and it works well and also shows what's most in demand.
Bumface's UTC with his Crypto-Trade assisted promotion fund can be put into these wallets also.
e.g. All start with 1000 UTC each from Bumface. Then community can start adding in their own.
Something like below. It would potentially speed up the development as well as gain some new devs.
If you like my idea, maybe I can qualify for #11 or #14?
UXLaLvo8L4eV9uC355WRzTX88GA7iFja2g
SAMPLE PUBLIC BOUNTY LIST
- Paying up to 100% of the wallet balance via 5 recognized members (bumface can choose) vote. (Score out of 10 per person)
- This is to ensure the right amount is paid to the developer for its level of quality rated by more than 1 person.
0. Multipool mining Scrypt to buy UTC (ala Blackcoin Multipool)
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
0. Twitter Tipper Bot
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
0. Experienced & dedicated Crypto Coin Developer
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
1. Android Mobile Wallet
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
2. iOS Mobile Wallet
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
3. Google+ Youtube Tipper Bot
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
4. Android Ultracoin Game
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
5. iOS Ultracoin Game
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
6. Reddit Tipper Bot
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
7. Youtube Promotional Video
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
8. Promotional Art / Graphics
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
9. Qt Wallet Enhancement / Upgrade
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
10. Ultracoin-related Desktop PC Application
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
11. Viral Promotion Blog post / news article / marketing attempt.
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
12. Ultracoin Gambling Site / Application
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
13. Misc-Ultracoin-related Web Site (blockchain, charts, buy/sell site etc)
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
14. Anything else Ultracoin related that deserves recognition and payment.
(Acts as a BONUS bounty if something above is exceptionally well done)
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
Why don't we create a public bounty system for things we need?
Each bounty will have its own wallet where people will send UTC to make the bounty bigger.
Some other coins use such system and it works well and also shows what's most in demand.
Bumface's UTC with his Crypto-Trade assisted promotion fund can be put into these wallets also.
e.g. All start with 1000 UTC each from Bumface. Then community can start adding in their own.
Something like below. It would potentially speed up the development as well as gain some new devs.
If you like my idea, maybe I can qualify for #11 or #14?
UXLaLvo8L4eV9uC355WRzTX88GA7iFja2g
SAMPLE PUBLIC BOUNTY LIST
- Paying up to 100% of the wallet balance via 5 recognized members (bumface can choose) vote. (Score out of 10 per person)
- This is to ensure the right amount is paid to the developer for its level of quality rated by more than 1 person.
0. Multipool mining Scrypt to buy UTC (ala Blackcoin Multipool)
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
0. Twitter Tipper Bot
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
0. Experienced & dedicated Crypto Coin Developer
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
1. Android Mobile Wallet
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
2. iOS Mobile Wallet
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
3. Google+ Youtube Tipper Bot
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
4. Android Ultracoin Game
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
5. iOS Ultracoin Game
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
6. Reddit Tipper Bot
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
7. Youtube Promotional Video
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
8. Promotional Art / Graphics
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
9. Qt Wallet Enhancement / Upgrade
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
10. Ultracoin-related Desktop PC Application
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
11. Viral Promotion Blog post / news article / marketing attempt.
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
12. Ultracoin Gambling Site / Application
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
13. Misc-Ultracoin-related Web Site (blockchain, charts, buy/sell site etc)
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
14. Anything else Ultracoin related that deserves recognition and payment.
(Acts as a BONUS bounty if something above is exceptionally well done)
Balance = http://bitgo.pw:3731/address/
March 23, 2014, 12:35:51 AM
Ultracoin lottery is in a few hours.
Enter here www.ultracoinlottery.com
Draw is at 10AM UTC/GMT
Good Luck
Enter here www.ultracoinlottery.com
Draw is at 10AM UTC/GMT
Good Luck
March 23, 2014, 12:04:47 AM
@Phaddie, yeah, that could be it. Have you tried downloading the miner from here? http://ultracoin.net/mining.html
Yip, I just downloaded a standard cgminer version and it is working (I think) now. I need to play with settings a bit methinks. I should be seeing approx 150 k/h on each of my r9 290 right?
Phad.
March 22, 2014, 11:16:08 PM
@Phaddie, yeah, that could be it. Have you tried downloading the miner from here? http://ultracoin.net/mining.html
March 22, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
could use some help downloaded cgminer from link in post #1
unzipped ADL_SDH_6
un tarred source
there's a .patch.gz in the but it won't untar with -zxvf
any ideas?
root@myserv:/etc/cudaminer/cgminer-build# tar -zxvf cgminer-3.7.2-sj-0.02.patch.gz
tar: This does not look like a tar archive
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
root@myserv:/etc/cudaminer/cgminer-build#
in addition I'm running 5 MSI R9 280X boards - any guidance setting parameters for these boards for Ultracoin?
thanks
unzipped ADL_SDH_6
un tarred source
there's a .patch.gz in the but it won't untar with -zxvf
any ideas?
root@myserv:/etc/cudaminer/cgminer-build# tar -zxvf cgminer-3.7.2-sj-0.02.patch.gz
tar: This does not look like a tar archive
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
root@myserv:/etc/cudaminer/cgminer-build#
in addition I'm running 5 MSI R9 280X boards - any guidance setting parameters for these boards for Ultracoin?
thanks
March 22, 2014, 10:50:07 PM
@phaddie
Try running it with the following config (pulled from Nitro2). This has been noted as a very successful configuration for most miners using 290's. And seeing that its only 1 card, RAM should not be an issue.
Also make sure to run:
setx GPUMAXALLOCPERCENT 100
setx GPUUSESYNCOBJECTS 1
From the command prompt as admin.
Try running it with the following config (pulled from Nitro2). This has been noted as a very successful configuration for most miners using 290's. And seeing that its only 1 card, RAM should not be an issue.
Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"name" : "UTC (Name does not matter)",
"url" : "stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306",
"user" : "phadcoin.1",
"pass" : "1234"
}
],
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "10",
"kernel" : "scrypt-jane",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-engine" : "1040",
"gpu-memclock" : "1400",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"scan-time" : "30",
"intensity" : "18",
"temp-target" : "88",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "64",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "42000"
}
"pools" : [
{
"name" : "UTC (Name does not matter)",
"url" : "stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306",
"user" : "phadcoin.1",
"pass" : "1234"
}
],
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "10",
"kernel" : "scrypt-jane",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-engine" : "1040",
"gpu-memclock" : "1400",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"scan-time" : "30",
"intensity" : "18",
"temp-target" : "88",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "64",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "42000"
}
Also make sure to run:
setx GPUMAXALLOCPERCENT 100
setx GPUUSESYNCOBJECTS 1
From the command prompt as admin.
Trying it right now
exactly the same problem. I am wondering if the problem is that I patched a version of Kalroth and not an original cgminer?
March 22, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
@phaddie
Try running it with the following config (pulled from Nitro2). This has been noted as a very successful configuration for most miners using 290's. And seeing that its only 1 card, RAM should not be an issue.
Also make sure to run:
setx GPUMAXALLOCPERCENT 100
setx GPUUSESYNCOBJECTS 1
From the command prompt as admin.
Try running it with the following config (pulled from Nitro2). This has been noted as a very successful configuration for most miners using 290's. And seeing that its only 1 card, RAM should not be an issue.
Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"name" : "UTC (Name does not matter)",
"url" : "stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306",
"user" : "phadcoin.1",
"pass" : "1234"
}
],
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "10",
"kernel" : "scrypt-jane",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-engine" : "1040",
"gpu-memclock" : "1400",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"scan-time" : "30",
"intensity" : "18",
"temp-target" : "88",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "64",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "42000"
}
"pools" : [
{
"name" : "UTC (Name does not matter)",
"url" : "stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306",
"user" : "phadcoin.1",
"pass" : "1234"
}
],
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "10",
"kernel" : "scrypt-jane",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-engine" : "1040",
"gpu-memclock" : "1400",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"scan-time" : "30",
"intensity" : "18",
"temp-target" : "88",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "64",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "42000"
}
Also make sure to run:
setx GPUMAXALLOCPERCENT 100
setx GPUUSESYNCOBJECTS 1
From the command prompt as admin.
March 22, 2014, 10:27:37 PM
I like this Nitro2 pool! Rejects are lowest I have seen. 0.002% after 30 hrs mining. Great Job guys.
March 22, 2014, 10:07:03 PM
What's your config look like?
It is like this
Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"name" : "UTC (Name does not matter)",
"url" : "stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306",
"user" : "phadcoin.1",
"pass" : "1234"
}
],
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "120",
"kernel" : "scrypt-jane",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "1",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-engine" : "1000",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"scan-time" : "30",
"intensity" : "20",
"temp-target" : "88",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "20481"
}
"pools" : [
{
"name" : "UTC (Name does not matter)",
"url" : "stratum+tcp://pickaxe.pool.pm:3306",
"user" : "phadcoin.1",
"pass" : "1234"
}
],
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "120",
"kernel" : "scrypt-jane",
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin",
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "1",
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"sj-time" : "1388361600",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"auto-fan" : true,
"gpu-engine" : "1000",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"scan-time" : "30",
"intensity" : "20",
"temp-target" : "88",
"temp-overheat" : "90",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-hysteresis" : "2",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "20481"
}
March 22, 2014, 09:24:23 PM
What's your config look like?
March 22, 2014, 09:14:06 PM
Hey guys, just installed the patch on CGminer. It seems to have worked but when I run it I get this error
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
I get that when I try to run CGminer with a 5450 connected to my PC
How did you fix it? This is a single r9 290.
I don't think my solution will work for you... I fixed it by removing the 5450 from my system lol ... you don't have any other video cards connected? Possibly your MOBO has a built in video card? If thats the case you'd have to disable it using windows device manager
That is not the case, I use this for mining all the time
Maybe I have a setting set weird. I will check the config.Phad.
March 22, 2014, 09:11:42 PM
Hey guys, just installed the patch on CGminer. It seems to have worked but when I run it I get this error
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
I get that when I try to run CGminer with a 5450 connected to my PC
How did you fix it? This is a single r9 290.
I don't think my solution will work for you... I fixed it by removing the 5450 from my system lol ... you don't have any other video cards connected? Possibly your MOBO has a built in video card? If thats the case you'd have to disable it using windows device manager
March 22, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
Hey guys, just installed the patch on CGminer. It seems to have worked but when I run it I get this error
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
I get that when I try to run CGminer with a 5450 connected to my PC
How did you fix it? This is a single r9 290.
March 22, 2014, 08:57:33 PM
Hey guys, just installed the patch on CGminer. It seems to have worked but when I run it I get this error
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
I get that when I try to run CGminer with a 5450 connected to my PC
March 22, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Hey guys, just installed the patch on CGminer. It seems to have worked but when I run it I get this error
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Log date is now 2014-03-23
[02:52:06] Started cgminer 3.7.3
[02:52:06] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
[02:52:06] Probing for an alive pool
[02:52:08] UTC (Name does not matter) difficulty changed to 16
[02:52:09] Unable to open^Y or .^Y for reading
[02:52:09] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[02:52:09] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[02:52:09] Try restarting cgminer.
Any ideas what I missed to get that error? The one about not reading ^Y?
Cheers.
March 22, 2014, 08:43:41 PM
Looks like pump really happened on cryptsy, until someone dumped 1500 utc, now its at same price about
1500 UTC wouldnt be enough to kill a pump, thats only 0.3-0.4 BTC
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