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Topic: [ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine - page 43. (Read 77231 times)

full member
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There will be 262, 8 million beam in total accoridng to coingecko. com... current supply is only about 3,2 million coins... if this coin will once have 1 billion market cap, the price will be about 4 euros when all coins are mined. I think, 10 billion marketcap are realistic as a long term price target if this coin is successful...

Mate, seems you just dreaming. I wnted to buy some tokens, but seems price overvalued already. ETH have 11 billions cap right now.
copper member
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Beam me up Scotty!
Another week of challenges and achievements for Team Beam https://beamprivacy.substack.com/p/beam-2019-week-5 #SovereigntyByDesign #mimblewimble
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raskul
I agree, there are still some intellectual voices on bitcointalk...

However... the ability to copy/paste decent technology has harmed this industry in more ways than most will ever realise. At this point I find mimblewimble a sheer godsend.. I am still in this for the same reason i got into it in 2009.. I want my finances to be my own private affair and I want to be able to dictate what I pay, when i pay it, not be told what I can afford to pay, when someone else decides i am able.

Too many people have come into this space thinking that crypto is a get-rich-quick scheme. And I have watched many fall over the years with the same advice that I have to give:

find a project with original tech, and stick with it to the bitter end, regardless of other projects price pumps and 'moonboi' advice.

I want to be able to spend my crypto, not watch charts all day long.
Very well said those are some of the reasons why I got into crypto I'm going to hook you up with some merit

Thank you! that is very much appreciated. I will share the merit with others who can string together a few worthwhile sentences  Smiley
hero member
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I agree, there are still some intellectual voices on bitcointalk...

However... the ability to copy/paste decent technology has harmed this industry in more ways than most will ever realise. At this point I find mimblewimble a sheer godsend.. I am still in this for the same reason i got into it in 2009.. I want my finances to be my own private affair and I want to be able to dictate what I pay, when i pay it, not be told what I can afford to pay, when someone else decides i am able.

Too many people have come into this space thinking that crypto is a get-rich-quick scheme. And I have watched many fall over the years with the same advice that I have to give:

find a project with original tech, and stick with it to the bitter end, regardless of other projects price pumps and 'moonboi' advice.

I want to be able to spend my crypto, not watch charts all day long.
Very well said those are some of the reasons why I got into crypto I'm going to hook you up with some merit
sr. member
Activity: 1414
Merit: 270
Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game
Help sought?  Or sympathy lol

So first up loving MimbleWimble thus far!  Thanks devs!

SO I have sent some funds from Hotbit to my desktop wallet (Windows 10) - something I have done before and I know that I must use only a current address.

Long story short, I sent to an expired address.

The question is are the funds permanetly lost?  OR are they safu? 

Thanks for your help and or sympathy.

If you have saved sid phrase all right.
I encountered a similar problem when sending BEAM from the pool to an expired address. But in this thread I suggested what to do.
In the latest version of the GUI wallet (1.1.4202) it is possible to change the validity of any wallet, even if it was already expired.
But if Hotbit does not repeat the transaction automatically, you will need to contact support.
member
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raskul
I agree, there are still some intellectual voices on bitcointalk...

However... the ability to copy/paste decent technology has harmed this industry in more ways than most will ever realise. At this point I find mimblewimble a sheer godsend.. I am still in this for the same reason i got into it in 2009.. I want my finances to be my own private affair and I want to be able to dictate what I pay, when i pay it, not be told what I can afford to pay, when someone else decides i am able.

Too many people have come into this space thinking that crypto is a get-rich-quick scheme. And I have watched many fall over the years with the same advice that I have to give:

find a project with original tech, and stick with it to the bitter end, regardless of other projects price pumps and 'moonboi' advice.

I want to be able to spend my crypto, not watch charts all day long.
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 100
Here is my take on the Beam founders reward, initially as a neutral miner - I took all of the following points into consideration when i decided to start mining Beam. For simplicities sake, lets call it 'the fund'

The fund is not a perpetual tax, it is a block reward which accumulates from miners rewards and is dispensed on a quarterly basis for the first 5 years only. When considering this, I weighed the difference between this method and if it had been taken as a perpetual 'fawcet' from each block directly into the treasury fund.
The method used is preferable due to the fact that these funds (once every 3 months) will need to be utilised by the company for the entire three months until the next fund emission occurs. This means that the company will not just 'dump' those coins in one large selloff, once each 3 months... they will need to keep a float to stay in business and this is the float they have decided to use.

As startup companies always require capital to cover running costs... the fact this business is not a consumer product produced by the company, and that it is an open-source cryptocurrency freely available to mine by anyone with GPU mining rigs, makes it all the more difficult for the company to ensure ongoing funding. They too can mine Beam, but they also pay the same amount as an average of mining costs if they do so. It's fair game.

The fund is there to pay for continuing evolution of the mimblewimble protocol and the 'growing up' of Beam as a cryptocurrency and a store of value asset.

Nobody is going to hold your hand or push you to mine Beam, that is your choice entirely and the things i mention above with regards to the fund, to me, are decent methods of keeping a float for the running of the business. I am looking to invest in mining an asset with a long-term value. I appreciate that the fund will be spent to cover costs, and i wholly value the work that the developers are doing, as well as commitment to the roadmap which has been published.

I am keen to debate these points with anyone who wishes to share their own views on the matter, but please refrain from posting links to other projects, in this thread.

 


I am indeed, still looking for some kind of adult discussion on this matter if anyone can bring themselves to it...

You explained in details as to how the fund is going to be utilized. I fully agree with your standpoint and what being said makes quite sense to me, no need to further discuss IMO. The thing will be whether this is going to actually happen or not. If BEAM team can issue quarterly summary of fund spending, that will convince people.

this forum has indeed: gone to shit.  Roll Eyes
This forum is not going to shit because of one or few noobs .
newbie
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hey friends where to get BEAM?
member
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raskul
As i see there are was not pre-mine according information on their site? But how many tokens in circulating right nowand how many will be max supply?

https://explorer.beam.mw
full member
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seems beam have a better economic model than grin
sr. member
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Merit: 259
As i see there are was not pre-mine according information on their site? But how many tokens in circulating right nowand how many will be max supply?
member
Activity: 952
Merit: 17
raskul
Here is my take on the Beam founders reward, initially as a neutral miner - I took all of the following points into consideration when i decided to start mining Beam. For simplicities sake, lets call it 'the fund'

The fund is not a perpetual tax, it is a block reward which accumulates from miners rewards and is dispensed on a quarterly basis for the first 5 years only. When considering this, I weighed the difference between this method and if it had been taken as a perpetual 'fawcet' from each block directly into the treasury fund.
The method used is preferable due to the fact that these funds (once every 3 months) will need to be utilised by the company for the entire three months until the next fund emission occurs. This means that the company will not just 'dump' those coins in one large selloff, once each 3 months... they will need to keep a float to stay in business and this is the float they have decided to use.

As startup companies always require capital to cover running costs... the fact this business is not a consumer product produced by the company, and that it is an open-source cryptocurrency freely available to mine by anyone with GPU mining rigs, makes it all the more difficult for the company to ensure ongoing funding. They too can mine Beam, but they also pay the same amount as an average of mining costs if they do so. It's fair game.

The fund is there to pay for continuing evolution of the mimblewimble protocol and the 'growing up' of Beam as a cryptocurrency and a store of value asset.

Nobody is going to hold your hand or push you to mine Beam, that is your choice entirely and the things i mention above with regards to the fund, to me, are decent methods of keeping a float for the running of the business. I am looking to invest in mining an asset with a long-term value. I appreciate that the fund will be spent to cover costs, and i wholly value the work that the developers are doing, as well as commitment to the roadmap which has been published.

I am keen to debate these points with anyone who wishes to share their own views on the matter, but please refrain from posting links to other projects, in this thread.

 


I am indeed, still looking for some kind of adult discussion on this matter if anyone can bring themselves to it...
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raskul
well the noobs have proved their lack of insight and heavily opinionated views here tonight.
I offered a valued discussion and all I get is statements without substance and lack of reasoning.

this forum has indeed: gone to shit.  Roll Eyes
newbie
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Merit: 0
Therefore you continue to make statements and continue to fail with the use of the term...

I don't expect you to listen as you demonstrated, so I don't bother to explain my viewpoint any further. buy BEAM and ETH!
newbie
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Some would say that a coin like ETH with unlimited supply has a destructive incentive, although in truth, it has been adopted en-mass and utilised in ways that would never have been expected a few years ago.

ETH is a scam scheme.
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raskul
I am afraid you are going to have to back up such statements

isn't that self evident? it creates a destructive incentive.

No, it's not self-evident and it does not create a destructive incentive. Some would say that a coin like ETH with unlimited supply has a destructive incentive, although in truth, it has been adopted en-mass and utilised in ways that would never have been expected a few years ago. Therefore you continue to make statements and continue to fail with the use of the term...

 "Because..."

"It creates a destructive incentive because...."

how does it create a destructive incentive, by what methods and to what ends?
newbie
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I am afraid you are going to have to back up such statements

isn't that self evident? it creates a destructive incentive.
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raskul
lets call it 'the fund'

the fund will not contribute to beams success but to it's downfall.

I am afraid you are going to have to back up such statements with your foresight and reasoning.
Please don't make yourself look like a child, hating on another child because they have better toys than you.

i'm open to your insight, how exactly will "the fund will not contribute to beams success but to it's downfall."?
newbie
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lets call it 'the fund'

the fund will not contribute to beams success but to it's downfall.
donator
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