I wil take the reigns for Kialara as I’m sure he’d be happy for me to do so but what I can’ say neither of us are comfortable with number two and number four and quite frankly no one else should be either, a conversation OG nasty and I had recently and I see the other side of it (OG lest chat soon about this and just catch up, overdue! but the opposite side of it is worse, and if anybody wants to have further conversation about that, I am more than happy to do so, it’s not a good idea on a number of levels. There’s others who you guys would trust above you most all who agree w me here , I’m not sure they want to be vocal about it or doxxed) it’s an awful practice, I’ll leave it at that for now,
Rag 1 you okay chatting on phone? I fell asleep about 1015 times riding this. I did not sleep well last night making my coffee got my meetings but just let me know. I know you’re tied up here for a bit but you know when things settle down next week or two if not, no big deal we can chat, but I just feel like that might be easier and I feel like we have a lot to chat about Anyways enjoy your weekend and let me know your thoughts
Topic: [ANN] [BETA] collectible.money - Open source tracking of crypto collectibles (Read 1240 times)
October 25, 2024, 09:00:10 AM
October 23, 2024, 06:59:32 PM
BitBills
After a long wait, the entire known BitBills set has been imported in.
My methodology for discovering the addresses is similar to Charlie's, with a minor tweak to cover an edge case. However, it turned out that has no impact on the discovered addresses, so my 928 matches the ones used in previous estimations based on his script.
I will do a writeup on the funding history and fund flow for the bitbills collection separately and share here.
For now, enjoy looking at the oldest funded collection.
Fun facts:
- There are only 26 remaining 20 BTC BitBills, which puts a cap of 26 complete sets (and 27 10 BTC, so good luck building a set if it's not already assembled and being sold whole)
- Just over 50% of the 1 BTC BitBills have been redeemed - I imagine a significant number of those have been lost, since they compromise over 50% of the total BitBills issuance and other denominations have a more robust redemption rate
- As far as I'm aware, this is the first time a full address list for plausible bitbills has been assembled and shared publicly
- This is not guaranteed to be an exhaustive list - it is possible there is one or more unlinked groups of BitBills funded from a different source. If you have or are aware of a BitBill not on this list, shoot me a PM so I can trace further.
If you want to see a time ordered redemption list, check out this godmode query:
(it takes a while to run the first time you load the page, patience)
After a long wait, the entire known BitBills set has been imported in.
My methodology for discovering the addresses is similar to Charlie's, with a minor tweak to cover an edge case. However, it turned out that has no impact on the discovered addresses, so my 928 matches the ones used in previous estimations based on his script.
I will do a writeup on the funding history and fund flow for the bitbills collection separately and share here.
For now, enjoy looking at the oldest funded collection.
Fun facts:
- There are only 26 remaining 20 BTC BitBills, which puts a cap of 26 complete sets (and 27 10 BTC, so good luck building a set if it's not already assembled and being sold whole)
- Just over 50% of the 1 BTC BitBills have been redeemed - I imagine a significant number of those have been lost, since they compromise over 50% of the total BitBills issuance and other denominations have a more robust redemption rate
- As far as I'm aware, this is the first time a full address list for plausible bitbills has been assembled and shared publicly
- This is not guaranteed to be an exhaustive list - it is possible there is one or more unlinked groups of BitBills funded from a different source. If you have or are aware of a BitBill not on this list, shoot me a PM so I can trace further.
If you want to see a time ordered redemption list, check out this godmode query:
Code:
SELECT
series_name,
item_id,
first_active,
redeemed_on,
addresses,
balance
FROM
god_view
WHERE
creators LIKE '%bitbill%'
ORDER BY
redeemed_on DESC;
series_name,
item_id,
first_active,
redeemed_on,
addresses,
balance
FROM
god_view
WHERE
creators LIKE '%bitbill%'
ORDER BY
redeemed_on DESC;
(it takes a while to run the first time you load the page, patience)
Great website. Love it to keep track of the top collectibles like bitbills!
September 05, 2024, 02:38:35 PM
After some discussion with some other members, I have expanded the flags on the collectibles tracker by having a dedicated page for them: https://collectible.money/flagged
This will list out scams, compromised, and lost/stolen items in a single place - hopefully, this also helps with search engine visibility so that someone who does come across a lost/stolen item has a higher chance of figuring it out.
Previously, seeing a flag required you to visit the exact pages affected by that item/series - you had to know what you were looking for, which isn't great for people trying to get an overview of lost/stolen items or determine if the one they have is one of them by checking a list.
As always, if you have any more items that should be marked as lost/stolen, drop me a PM or email and I'll take care of it.
This will list out scams, compromised, and lost/stolen items in a single place - hopefully, this also helps with search engine visibility so that someone who does come across a lost/stolen item has a higher chance of figuring it out.
Previously, seeing a flag required you to visit the exact pages affected by that item/series - you had to know what you were looking for, which isn't great for people trying to get an overview of lost/stolen items or determine if the one they have is one of them by checking a list.
As always, if you have any more items that should be marked as lost/stolen, drop me a PM or email and I'll take care of it.
August 30, 2024, 06:51:40 AM
A 100 BTC Cas bar was just redeemed: https://collectible.money/item/S2CASASCIUS-100-1GCFaQGAMF
Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
Hahaha, peanuts!Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
Such a breath of fresh air seeing this project evolving. Great work, raghavsood!
The idea of an alert system that activates if several coins of one maker are redeemed within a short time span would be fantastic indeed. Maybe could give a chance to save some funds in case of a rug pull.
August 29, 2024, 09:37:06 AM
The Telegram bot (which is really awesome, by the way), is showing that it was redeemed for 267.999 BTC. It seems to be double counting the change amounts after the test transactions. So when they spent the first 1 BTC, there was 98.999 returned as change. They sent another 30, leaving 68.999 as change. So the bot added 100+98.99+68.99 = 267.999 or ~$16 million in value.
I think I have noticed this on a few other alerts. At first I thought they were overfunded coins by the end user.
I think I have noticed this on a few other alerts. At first I thought they were overfunded coins by the end user.
That's right - it does count the change.
I'm going to be updating the alerts shortly to only look at the value preceding the redemption block as a quick fix.
The long term fix is to discount any funding transactions after the first redemption transaction from the item valuations. That requires a slightly bigger update, so perhaps over the weekend.
Thanks for bringing it up, will be addressed shortly!
August 29, 2024, 09:33:04 AM
The Telegram bot (which is really awesome, by the way), is showing that it was redeemed for 267.999 BTC. It seems to be double counting the change amounts after the test transactions. So when they spent the first 1 BTC, there was 98.999 returned as change. They sent another 30, leaving 68.999 as change. So the bot added 100+98.99+68.99 = 267.999 or ~$16 million in value.
I think I have noticed this on a few other alerts. At first I thought they were overfunded coins by the end user.
I think I have noticed this on a few other alerts. At first I thought they were overfunded coins by the end user.
August 29, 2024, 09:23:54 AM
A 100 BTC Cas bar was just redeemed: https://collectible.money/item/S2CASASCIUS-100-1GCFaQGAMF
Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
The Telegram bot show that this was 1 of 81 bars, but my records indicate there are 88 of these bars.
Will PM you about this
Please do!
The classification for some of the later Cas items is a little ambiguous as the address list published could be interpreted in multiple ways. At a high level, the classification for 25, 100, and 1000 BTC items was done based on the address system described in Mike's list, as well as the amount of BTC sent in the first funding transaction to that address.
There is some room for error here, since some coins were funded by the buyer before Mike send the BTC after receipt, and other variations.
I should probably write up a blog post on how this classification was done so that it is reproducible by others in the long run.
Always happy to improve the tracking with more accurate data!
August 29, 2024, 09:20:42 AM
A 100 BTC Cas bar was just redeemed: https://collectible.money/item/S2CASASCIUS-100-1GCFaQGAMF
Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
The Telegram bot show that this was 1 of 81 bars, but my records indicate there are 88 of these bars.
Will PM you about this
August 29, 2024, 03:27:30 AM
...ah but shure whats $60k out of $60,000,000 !
funded with $10k back in 2013.
funded with $10k back in 2013.
August 29, 2024, 02:52:51 AM
A 100 BTC Cas bar was just redeemed: https://collectible.money/item/S2CASASCIUS-100-1GCFaQGAMF
Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
Looks like it was carefully done, with a test transaction and all - although I'm not sure if I would use 1 BTC as a test amount.
As always, you can get these alerts in realtime on via telegram using https://t.me/collectible_money
August 19, 2024, 01:50:37 AM
Would you please possibly add Lealana, Titan and Kialara in the future?
They are planned - unfortunately, neither of the three makers publish address lists, so I'm piecing together information from what's been shared online and on-chain movements.
This is so cool and I think I have a missing CI which was just auctioned. Probably been asked before, but any chance of integrating pictures with series?
CI only publicly listed the first addresses few series he did (up to the 2018 Phoenix) - everything after that is sourced from online data, which is taking some time to sift through.
As always, if you own a piece or see any discrepancies, feel free to PM/email me with serials, addresses, item details, grading slabs. etc!
August 18, 2024, 08:57:31 PM
This is so cool and I think I have a missing CI which was just auctioned. Probably been asked before, but any chance of integrating pictures with series?
August 18, 2024, 08:04:52 PM
Would you please possibly add Lealana, Titan and Kialara in the future?
August 17, 2024, 03:31:57 AM
An execellent job, it's very helpful. Thank you very much, Mr. Sood.
August 13, 2024, 12:33:12 PM
Crypto Imperator
A decent chunk of Crypto Imperator's works have been imported.
This one is a bit tricky, as there is no well-define address list - I was able to retrieve some lists generated by CI himself from archive.org (the website is currently down), but they only cover the first third or so of his works.
The Friends of Satoshi series were similarly obtained from archives and snapshots of their website.
Many of CI's more recent works in the last 5 years or so are still missing, and will trickle in based on my trawling of public source and on-chain analysis
As always, if you see any discrepancies, or have any data you wish to contribute, I'm just a PM away.
The next creators will likely be Kialara and TGBEX, unless someone has more information in a easily importable format.
A decent chunk of Crypto Imperator's works have been imported.
This one is a bit tricky, as there is no well-define address list - I was able to retrieve some lists generated by CI himself from archive.org (the website is currently down), but they only cover the first third or so of his works.
The Friends of Satoshi series were similarly obtained from archives and snapshots of their website.
Many of CI's more recent works in the last 5 years or so are still missing, and will trickle in based on my trawling of public source and on-chain analysis
As always, if you see any discrepancies, or have any data you wish to contribute, I'm just a PM away.
The next creators will likely be Kialara and TGBEX, unless someone has more information in a easily importable format.
August 12, 2024, 02:46:01 PM
Is it possible to create some kind of alert system when, for example, 5 or 10 coins from the same series are Redeemed/swept on the same day?
Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.
Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.
Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.
Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.
I've been thinking about this in light of recent events.
I'm looking at alerts along a few facets:
1. More than X% of a creator's items or a series' items being redeemed within 24 hours
2. More than Y items belonging to the same creator being redeemed in a short period of time
There's a few things to consider when segmented (what kind of time window to use, whether we give higher weightage to multiple redemptions in the same tx or not), but those can likely be tuned as needed down the road.
For actually sending out the alert, I would want to send out to the telegram channel for a start - I'm on the opposite side of the world from most collectors, so if something happens (like this week), I may not react fast enough given timezone differences.
I think you are onto something really great here. In case of a rug pull or any fishy business owners of any of these items might have enough time to recover any lost funds before they are swept. Having some sort of alert system would be soooo great to have. Fantastic work on this man you're really crushing it here.
August 11, 2024, 07:04:18 AM
BitBills
After a long wait, the entire known BitBills set has been imported in.
My methodology for discovering the addresses is similar to Charlie's, with a minor tweak to cover an edge case. However, it turned out that has no impact on the discovered addresses, so my 928 matches the ones used in previous estimations based on his script.
I will do a writeup on the funding history and fund flow for the bitbills collection separately and share here.
For now, enjoy looking at the oldest funded collection.
Fun facts:
- There are only 26 remaining 20 BTC BitBills, which puts a cap of 26 complete sets (and 27 10 BTC, so good luck building a set if it's not already assembled and being sold whole)
- Just over 50% of the 1 BTC BitBills have been redeemed - I imagine a significant number of those have been lost, since they compromise over 50% of the total BitBills issuance and other denominations have a more robust redemption rate
- As far as I'm aware, this is the first time a full address list for plausible bitbills has been assembled and shared publicly
- This is not guaranteed to be an exhaustive list - it is possible there is one or more unlinked groups of BitBills funded from a different source. If you have or are aware of a BitBill not on this list, shoot me a PM so I can trace further.
If you want to see a time ordered redemption list, check out this godmode query:
(it takes a while to run the first time you load the page, patience)
After a long wait, the entire known BitBills set has been imported in.
My methodology for discovering the addresses is similar to Charlie's, with a minor tweak to cover an edge case. However, it turned out that has no impact on the discovered addresses, so my 928 matches the ones used in previous estimations based on his script.
I will do a writeup on the funding history and fund flow for the bitbills collection separately and share here.
For now, enjoy looking at the oldest funded collection.
Fun facts:
- There are only 26 remaining 20 BTC BitBills, which puts a cap of 26 complete sets (and 27 10 BTC, so good luck building a set if it's not already assembled and being sold whole)
- Just over 50% of the 1 BTC BitBills have been redeemed - I imagine a significant number of those have been lost, since they compromise over 50% of the total BitBills issuance and other denominations have a more robust redemption rate
- As far as I'm aware, this is the first time a full address list for plausible bitbills has been assembled and shared publicly
- This is not guaranteed to be an exhaustive list - it is possible there is one or more unlinked groups of BitBills funded from a different source. If you have or are aware of a BitBill not on this list, shoot me a PM so I can trace further.
If you want to see a time ordered redemption list, check out this godmode query:
Code:
SELECT
series_name,
item_id,
first_active,
redeemed_on,
addresses,
balance
FROM
god_view
WHERE
creators LIKE '%bitbill%'
ORDER BY
redeemed_on DESC;
series_name,
item_id,
first_active,
redeemed_on,
addresses,
balance
FROM
god_view
WHERE
creators LIKE '%bitbill%'
ORDER BY
redeemed_on DESC;
(it takes a while to run the first time you load the page, patience)
August 09, 2024, 09:40:07 AM
Grading Slabs
The site now support an overview of grading slabs for an item - This is intentionally kept minimal as I want people to visit the grading service's certificate page for full, from-the-source details.
It primarily aims to make discover easier by having the certificate numbers indexable by search engines, along with the grades easily visible.
As with all other data, importing will be a long, slow process. If you have items that are recently graded, or that you intend to sell soon, and want the grades listed first, feel free to PM me.
An item can list more than one grading slab, as it is technically possible to break a slab and have an item regraded. As most (all?) grading services do not make their slabbing dates publicly available, I am unable to sort by date or status.
The site now support an overview of grading slabs for an item - This is intentionally kept minimal as I want people to visit the grading service's certificate page for full, from-the-source details.
It primarily aims to make discover easier by having the certificate numbers indexable by search engines, along with the grades easily visible.
As with all other data, importing will be a long, slow process. If you have items that are recently graded, or that you intend to sell soon, and want the grades listed first, feel free to PM me.
An item can list more than one grading slab, as it is technically possible to break a slab and have an item regraded. As most (all?) grading services do not make their slabbing dates publicly available, I am unable to sort by date or status.
August 09, 2024, 05:42:57 AM
Is it possible to create some kind of alert system when, for example, 5 or 10 coins from the same series are Redeemed/swept on the same day?
Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.
Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.
Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.
Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.
I've been thinking about this in light of recent events.
I'm looking at alerts along a few facets:
1. More than X% of a creator's items or a series' items being redeemed within 24 hours
2. More than Y items belonging to the same creator being redeemed in a short period of time
There's a few things to consider when segmented (what kind of time window to use, whether we give higher weightage to multiple redemptions in the same tx or not), but those can likely be tuned as needed down the road.
For actually sending out the alert, I would want to send out to the telegram channel for a start - I'm on the opposite side of the world from most collectors, so if something happens (like this week), I may not react fast enough given timezone differences.
August 09, 2024, 05:37:51 AM
Is it possible to create some kind of alert system when, for example, 5 or 10 coins from the same series are Redeemed/swept on the same day?
Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.
Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.
Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.
Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.
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