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Is it possible to create some kind of alert system when, for example, 5 or 10 coins from the same series are Redeemed/swept on the same day?

Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.

Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.

I've been thinking about this in light of recent events.

I'm looking at alerts along a few facets:

1. More than X% of a creator's items or a series' items being redeemed within 24 hours
2. More than Y items belonging to the same creator being redeemed in a short period of time

There's a few things to consider when segmented (what kind of time window to use, whether we give higher weightage to multiple redemptions in the same tx or not), but those can likely be tuned as needed down the road.

For actually sending out the alert, I would want to send out to the telegram channel for a start - I'm on the opposite side of the world from most collectors, so if something happens (like this week), I may not react fast enough given timezone differences.
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Is it possible to create some kind of alert system when, for example, 5 or 10 coins from the same series are Redeemed/swept on the same day?

Maybe your website could display a pop-up warning message or something like that.

Or maybe just let the system send a warning e-mail to yourself so you can take a look and assess whether it is relevant or not.
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@raghavsood a very nice update!
you only made a small mistake in that you first named the artist and then the maker in the Icarus timeline edition 04/2024 - in the other 2 editions it was the other way around Wink

It will actually randomly sort it depending on how the database loads the results. Loading the same page at different times may display them in a different order.

At this stage, the site doesn't differentiate between the maker of the physical item and the artists providing the design - right now, everyone is a "creator" without distinction to which part of the project they contributed to (so for instance, in the BeYourOwnBank "The M.O.A.B." both MJ and Hhampuz share the same creator status although MJ was only involved for keygen and holo application)

I may explore ways to mark the contribution to a project, perhaps through an annotation like * for creators who contributed in non-physical ways such as art or advice, or maybe by marking the primary creator for a series (since many creators collaborate as a subset of their larger works, like icarus with all the timeline cards, or MyBits with their AdamKadmon collab), and leave the rest as "contributors".

If all that is overkill, perhaps I can just sort it alphabetically so that it is at least consistent in ordering across views.

Interested to hear your thoughts on what kind of differentiation makes sense - this is a part of the creation process I'm not very familiar with, and I want to ensure that the creators find the representation accurate.
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@raghavsood a very nice update!
you only made a small mistake in that you first named the artist and then the maker in the Icarus timeline edition 04/2024 - in the other 2 editions it was the other way around Wink
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Well, it's been a hectic week.

Creator Indicators

With more and more collaborative pieces being imported (all those Icarus cards, several others), I've pushed an update to make the creators involved with a project more visible on the series views.



This makes it cleared which folks are involved with a piece, and also makes it easier to discover their other works without going through a strange search path.
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This is an incredibly cool idea! LOVE the flow of the site. Genius, great work.
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Fantastic work Raghav.
I browsed the website, and the information is great. Thank you.
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As a reminder, the telegram channel @ https://t.me/collectible_money posts in real-time whenever items are peeled. With prices going up recently, we've seen a lot of value moving, including big pieces like 10 BTC, 5 BTC, and 1 BTC Cas coins, along with numerous smaller ones like Satori chips and BTCC chips just in the last month.

These alerts will be mirrored to the twitter account at https://x.com/collectible_btc soon as well.

very nice news!
 also joined the telegram group immediately Smiley
what i would like to see in the future is that you can mark your own collectibles that you own in some way on the website or in the telegram group, so that in the worst case you can be alerted if they are peeled without your knowledge

While I'm still working on the "Portfolio" feature (as mentioned before, some privacy concerns around there - it's a bit more effort to implement in a manner where I don't gain certain knowledge of who owns which items), I have updated the telegram bot to support subscriptions.

In addition to the channel at https://t.me/collectible_money, anyone can now chat with https://t.me/collectible_btc_bot to subscribe to receive a more curated set of alerts.

Subscriptions are supported for creators, series, and individual items.

To subscribe, simply copy the URL for the creator, series, or item you are interested in and sent it to the bot as follows (one URL per message only):

Code:
# Receive updates for all items by a creator
/subscribe https://collectible.money/creator/icarus

# Receive updates for an entire series
/subscribe https://collectible.money/series/casascius-s1-1btc

# Receive updates for just one item
/subscribe https://collectible.money/item/SATORI-09749

Similarly, you can unsubscribe from alerts by sending an "/unsubscribe " message.

This can be a better choice if you don't want to join the public channel, which will post about every single item tracked.

Privacy Impact

As I have to keep track of who subscribed to what, this does leak some amount of information to me - At the very least, I know you are interested in a specific creator, series, or item. I can't be certain the subscriber owns it, as anyone can subscribe to anything, but odds are people will subscribe to the ones they own, or are particularly famous (1000 BTC Cas coins, for example).

No information/linkage to items made available to me through the subscription channels will be used to publish any information on the site, ever. The information made publicly available on the site will always be:

1. Publicly available somewhere else (forum, internet, auctions, etc)
2. Explicitly provided to me with the intention and expectation that it will be made public (creators, owners sharing information with me)

Of course, for optimal privacy, subscribing to the public channel is best since it leaks no information on ownership whatsoever.
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As a reminder, the telegram channel @ https://t.me/collectible_money posts in real-time whenever items are peeled. With prices going up recently, we've seen a lot of value moving, including big pieces like 10 BTC, 5 BTC, and 1 BTC Cas coins, along with numerous smaller ones like Satori chips and BTCC chips just in the last month.

These alerts will be mirrored to the twitter account at https://x.com/collectible_btc soon as well.

very nice news!
 also joined the telegram group immediately Smiley
what i would like to see in the future is that you can mark your own collectibles that you own in some way on the website or in the telegram group, so that in the worst case you can be alerted if they are peeled without your knowledge
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Scam, loss, and compromise alerts
Good idea for tracking scams and suspicious projects, but it's not going to be easy to track everything.
Maybe you should add an easy way for users to quickly report something with basic feedback and link with more information proof.
You would obviously have to manually check everything that was reported.

I will be rolling out a "community flag" feature shortly that would allow community members to report things to me, and immediately reflect on the item/series/creator pages for real-time feedback to everyone else. There will be some basic anti-griefing workflows to prevent spam, but it should work well for cases like Coldkey.



A lot of data has been imported in the last month - we're now tracking over 45,000 BTC ($2.5B) in value across 169,000+ individual items.

A number of performance improvements have also been rolled out - item, series pages, and feeds should now be super snappy to load.

As a reminder, the telegram channel @ https://t.me/collectible_money posts in real-time whenever items are peeled. With prices going up recently, we've seen a lot of value moving, including big pieces like 10 BTC, 5 BTC, and 1 BTC Cas coins, along with numerous smaller ones like Satori chips and BTCC chips just in the last month.

These alerts will be mirrored to the twitter account at https://x.com/collectible_btc soon as well.
legendary
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Scam, loss, and compromise alerts
Good idea for tracking scams and suspicious projects, but it's not going to be easy to track everything.
Maybe you should add an easy way for users to quickly report something with basic feedback and link with more information proof.
You would obviously have to manually check everything that was reported.
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Hi pal ,

Can you includes (Liquidoptions) aka Squirrelbits  coins on here.  Wink

Mr Suirrelbits _ Psycopedia

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59115696


I was wondering how the Squirrelbits could be documented because liquid
deletes the OP of all the releases....and then updates the reference thread - very good.


By popular request, the Squirrelbits collection has been imported.

This took some detective work and creative use of ninjastic and other sources, but I believe I have everything attributed to the right collection - note that collection names are derived from the Squirrelbits_Psycopedia, which often uses a different name from the ones in the sale/auction/raffle posts. Nevertheless, if you search by address, you should find the correct collection.

A few standout points to note:

1. The whole set of 48 series has an unbelievably low peel rate - very, very impressive given it now holds over 5 BTC in value, and spans 3 years.
2. Items from liquidoptions that aren't in the psychopedia aren't included yet.
3. Serial numbers are only present for items where I was able to locate them from my own collection or other auction/sale/grading posts.


As always, if you notice any discrepancies, or own any of these items and would like to contribute photos/serials, reach out to me!


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Great work, just browsed your site a bit. Looking good, well sorted and informative!
Nice to see you already included Moonbits.

Some minor suggestion for improving the site experience: Allow to sort on all pages.
Right now it's only possible to sort when searching an individual series. Like here: https://collectible.money/series/casascius-s2-10btc
But when looking up a maker via the searchbar, you cannot sort. See here: https://collectible.money/search?q=moonbits


Great suggestion - this has been done. The search results will now also support pagination and standard filtering.

The masterlist will not - it's too large, and browsers choke on it if I try to do anything fancy. I'm leaving that as a simple, non-fancy HTML table so that it is fit for single-page archival purposes (just downloading/saving that one page gets the bulk of the tracked information).
legendary
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Disobey.
Great work, just browsed your site a bit. Looking good, well sorted and informative!
Nice to see you already included Moonbits.

Some minor suggestion for improving the site experience: Allow to sort on all pages.
Right now it's only possible to sort when searching an individual series. Like here: https://collectible.money/series/casascius-s2-10btc
But when looking up a maker via the searchbar, you cannot sort. See here: https://collectible.money/search?q=moonbits
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Scam, loss, and compromise alerts

The site will now show alerts for creators, series, and items that fit certain criteria:

1. Scam - As exampled by Yogg, this alert shows up on the creator profile for creators who are known to be scammers/dishonest.
2. Compromised - Once again courtesy of Yogg, the Polymerbit 10y anniversary note shows an alert that the keys should be considered compromised and the funds swept (for anyone new, Polymerbit is not the scammer here - Yogg generated the keys, polymerbit's other notes are still a-okay). Compromise warnings propagate from the series to individual items (since is a series' keys are compromised, so are the individual items)
3. Stolen - As with this BTCC 0.1 BTC coin, items that are stolen or lost during transit can be marked individually.

For the moment, these alerts will only be placed for cases where there is a corresponding, well viewed bitcointalk thread on the matter. Reports sent to me directly may be included at my discretion (essentially, based on how much I trust you), but I aim to avoid privately sourced flags as it can lead to targetted attacks on creators, series, or items.




I am also not including details on who reported an item stolen (once again, to avoid targetting) - I separately track why I associated a flag with something, and if someone contacts me about a stolen/lost item I will do my best to reach out to the person who lost it.
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Telegram Channel

A new telegram channel is now live at https://t.me/collectible_money - realtime updates (~approx 1-3 minute delay from a block being mined) are posted here automatically as items are redeemed.

It only posts when:

1. An item is redeemed for the first time (i.e. if any item has multiple outputs, like this Cas coin, only the first redemption will trigger the bot. Once an item's private key has been used once, the site considers it redeemed even if more funds are transferred in later and spent again.
2. It is a redemption in a newly indexed block - when collections are backfilled with historical data, the bot will not be triggered.

This is a great way to keep an eye on the indexed collections, and shouldn't be terribly noisy since the last 50 redemptions span around a month, so an average of 1-2 messages a day.
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A lot of cool updates today.

Database

Two large collections, Casascius and Satori, have been added.

Data for Satori is still syncing.

The Casascius collection is currently only broadly classified (based on the address list provided by Mike) - expect that to change slightly over time as I refine it - the refinement will be accompanied by a separate blog post detailing the decisions made and why.

There is now also a maintenance banner that's displayed when new collections are being imported - for large ones like this, this can take several hours and blocks the real time indexing, so the banner helps to highlight that data might be stale.

With this, we're now tracking ~164k items with a TVL of almost 45,000 BTC (~2.6B USD)

God View Balance

God Mode data has been updated to include the present balance

Revamped Series Detail Page

Since some collections, like Satori and Cas, can contain 10000+ items in a single series, showing separate tables for the item status and address status became impractical.

I have merged them into a single table, as well as adding support for Datatables - this lets you sort, filter, search, copy to clipboard, and export as CSV right within the series page - wonderful for searching for partial addresses or serial numbers if you already know which series to go to (the global search can be less than helpful if you have to search for, say, serial number "1" - it's going to match a million things. But if you know you have a Satori Chip, filtering within the table makes a lot more sense)




Hopefully these are good quality of life improvements!

Next up will be tracking of known grading/slabs, and flagging of lost/stolen/compromised items and series.
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ATOM Feeds

ATOM Feeds are now available for:

 - The site as a whole - this feed at https://collectible.money/feeds/all (preview) returns the 100 most recent funding and redemption transactions across all tracked items
 - Specific creators - Accessible from the creator's page (look for the "ATOM Feed" link) (miffman preview), this returns the 100 most recent transactions involving any item made or collaborated on by this creator
 - Specific series - Accessible from the series' page (look for the "ATOM Feed" link) (MoonBits 2019 T-Series Brass preview) this returns the 100 most recent transactions involving any item within the selected series
 - Individual items - Accessible from the item detail page (look for the "ATOM Feed" link) (10k BTCC C-Series Chip preview), this feed returns ALL transactions involving this specific item.

Using these feeds, you can use any RSS/ATOM reader to subscribe to feeds for items, creators, or series you wish to track.

This will be followed shortly by a telegram and twitter bot to auto post on redemptions and fundings.
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Scanning for search

The search bar now allows you to scan a QR code (or in theory, a barcode, but I think QRs are more useful here)

It will auto populate the search box with the results of the scan.

Super helpful for items with low contrast/unknown addresses or firstbits, but with a QR code.

Scanning QRs on holos can be a bit challenging due to reflections - try angling the item a little so you get a consistent background
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what i would also find cool is that at some point this great website would also have an app for mobile phones (android & apple) in which you could mark your own coins/chips, for example, to display the complete value of your own collection or simply to monitor your own funds.

I've thought about collection tracking, but it's a little tricky to implement - one thing I want to avoid is to have knowledge of what any individuals' collection is - if that information is stored somewhere, the potential for misuse and leakage exists. That would be a dataset attackers would target given the high value of the collections.

In the short term, I will be rolling out RSS feeds and email alerts so anyone can monitor their items without having to explicitly declare ownership of them (or simply watch interesting/rare items)

Later on, I may bundle up a small app that lets you "subscribe" to these feeds in a more tailed interface and monitor the collection locally, without having to create an account and actively declare your ownership of items - from the perspective of the server, RSS feeds and alerts can be consumed by anyone, regardless of their relation to the item.
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