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k
sr. member
Activity: 451
Merit: 250
November 02, 2012, 02:18:04 PM
Foundation Members, check your emails.  Invites to the members-only BTC foundation forum have been sent out.

making the members-only BTC foundation forum read-only for non-members might be a good option to prevent the inevitable accusations of an insider elite taking control of bitcoin and other conspiracy theories.
full member
Activity: 121
Merit: 102
November 02, 2012, 01:52:29 PM
Foundation Members, check your emails.  Invites to the members-only BTC foundation forum have been sent out.

The fellowship of the coin...
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Lead Core BitKitty Developer
November 02, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
Foundation Members, check your emails.  Invites to the members-only BTC foundation forum have been sent out.

Love it! Fits the whole set up of the foundation perfectly! Cheesy
full member
Activity: 169
Merit: 100
November 01, 2012, 07:09:46 PM
Foundation Members, check your emails.  Invites to the members-only BTC foundation forum have been sent out.
legendary
Activity: 1500
Merit: 1022
I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement & Venus Project.
November 01, 2012, 05:54:16 PM
So it's been over 30 days, and the Bitcoin Foundation has already crashed the price of bitcoin by nearly 3 dollars. This is the result of government intervention on the free market. Expect the price to keep going down if these tyrannical power mongers continue to ride roughshod over everyone in the bitcoin ecosystem.

That's what they're doing right? To be honest, I haven't noticed anything that they've actually done. But I do certainly imagine it to be totally evil and stuff, and that's what counts.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
November 01, 2012, 12:35:09 PM
supposed to have Charlie Sherm on DonkDown radio in about an hour, I would like to help spread (and learn myself) some info on this
got a link>?

Posponed until next Wens at 7:15 PDT / 10:15 EST
legendary
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Hello!
November 01, 2012, 12:08:27 PM
supposed to have Charlie Sherm on DonkDown radio in about an hour, I would like to help spread (and learn myself) some info on this
got a link>?
legendary
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Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
October 31, 2012, 07:53:22 PM
supposed to have Charlie Sherm on DonkDown radio in about an hour, I would like to help spread (and learn myself) some info on this
legendary
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Merit: 1006
Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
October 22, 2012, 06:28:32 AM
(...) blah blah (...)

Also, why the hell do you keep changing your avatar randomly ?

A psychiatrist would probably suspect that you have some kind of mental disorder as you are so unstable that you cannot decide what avatar will reflect you best.
hero member
Activity: 991
Merit: 1011
October 22, 2012, 03:58:48 AM
If the Foundation is seeking registration as some form of non-profit, then it's likely that voting procedures are outlined by law and that they can't just make them up themselves (here, votes by the membership of non-profits must be overseen by officers of the Electoral Commission who check that members were financial, that the required quorum was met, and that the required formal procedures such as notice, proposers and seconders etc were followed).

Why they chose Washington DC as the location, the most oppressive, regulated shithole in the world, is beyond me. Oh wait, it isn't because I am sure the original intentions were to get Bitcoin regulated.

If you are saying that Washington DC is regulated, then you have no fucking idea what the word "regulated" means.

Come to the UE. We have laws here that specify the exact curvature a banana must have to be allowed on the market. They also tell us how much milk, cheese and sugar we can produce. That is **regulated**.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

note that this law doesnt deal with beef - or the labeling of beef. or the supervision of the labeling of beef. it really does deal with the proper delegation of the supervision of the labeling of beef.
because if you dont have that.... its anarchy!!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1006
Bringing Legendary Har® to you since 1952
October 22, 2012, 03:48:19 AM
If the Foundation is seeking registration as some form of non-profit, then it's likely that voting procedures are outlined by law and that they can't just make them up themselves (here, votes by the membership of non-profits must be overseen by officers of the Electoral Commission who check that members were financial, that the required quorum was met, and that the required formal procedures such as notice, proposers and seconders etc were followed).

Why they chose Washington DC as the location, the most oppressive, regulated shithole in the world, is beyond me. Oh wait, it isn't because I am sure the original intentions were to get Bitcoin regulated.

If you are saying that Washington DC is regulated, then you have no fucking idea what the word "regulated" means.

Come to the UE. We have laws here that specify the exact curvature a banana must have to be allowed on the market. They also tell us how much milk, cheese and sugar we can produce. That is **regulated**.
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 1
October 20, 2012, 08:43:31 PM
If the Foundation is seeking registration as some form of non-profit, then it's likely that voting procedures are outlined by law and that they can't just make them up themselves (here, votes by the membership of non-profits must be overseen by officers of the Electoral Commission who check that members were financial, that the required quorum was met, and that the required formal procedures such as notice, proposers and seconders etc were followed).

Why they chose Washington DC as the location, the most oppressive, regulated shithole in the world, is beyond me. Oh wait, it isn't because I am sure the original intentions were to get Bitcoin regulated.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 20, 2012, 08:41:34 PM
If the Foundation is seeking registration as some form of non-profit, then it's likely that voting procedures are outlined by law and that they can't just make them up themselves (here, votes by the membership of non-profits must be overseen by officers of the Electoral Commission who check that members were financial, that the required quorum was met, and that the required formal procedures such as notice, proposers and seconders etc were followed).
legendary
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Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
October 20, 2012, 08:27:43 PM
wow there is a ton going on in this thread.

I run a little podcast each Wed. I would love to have someone representing the Bitcoin Foundation on the show tomorrow.  It airs live from 7-8ish PM Vegas time, then posted for podcasting after that.

I have an email out to someone in the organization as well.

I'll be in Las Vegas tomorrow, if you want me to speak on the show!

That'd be awesome! (remember to look into the camera and wear a Bitcoin tie) Seriously, I just thought of something neat to do at the end of the interview. Cut for high card, with the loser paying the winner 1 BTC, then somewhat showing the paying off of the wager via smartphones, PC, etc.

~Bruno K~
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
October 20, 2012, 06:55:46 PM
wow there is a ton going on in this thread.

I run a little podcast each Wed. I would love to have someone representing the Bitcoin Foundation on the show tomorrow.  It airs live from 7-8ish PM Vegas time, then posted for podcasting after that.

I have an email out to someone in the organization as well.

I'll be in Las Vegas tomorrow, if you want me to speak on the show!
hero member
Activity: 496
Merit: 500
October 20, 2012, 07:20:38 AM
In my view the voting procedure must allow members to verify two things:
a) check that your own vote is correct
b) check that other votes come from legit members
(then those members can verify that their vote is correct on their own)

So I thought that the following approach might solve the problem:
Each vote needs to include a signed message from the Bitcoin address used to pay the membership fee to a fixed known BF address. Then the whole registry of these messages with their respective addresses can be made public so that each member can (a) check that his vote is correct and (b) that other votes originate from the addresses that paid the membership fee. This will prevent BF from creating phony members just to rig the voting.

Before this is teared apart... this approach implies the changes to the procedure of paying membership fees. It needs to come from a single Bitcoin address preferably never used for anything else.
Member would need to register that address with his profile and BF would need to use a single public address for collecting fees, while identifying its members payments by the originating address they registered.

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RE: voting:

Great ideas! I think I'll be pushing to start with a good old-fashioned "send you a letter with a PIN number to your mailing address" as the first step to preventing voter fraud. We'll have to have a much more extensive discussion of voting procedures before it is time to vote.  I'll probably push to follow the lead of other successful organizations, and to do the Simplest Possible Thing That Will Work-- which might be hiring a disinterested high-reputation company who specializes in running elections for organizations.

Thanks for looking into this!

I don't see how "sending a letter with a PIN" would help address point (b) in my quote above.
Also it might not be the best way to look into the past or at other "successful" organizations or hiring a "trusted" third party (please please don't hire Diebold) for handling voting as the best solution might not have existed before advent of Bitcoin.

As an example the online gambling industry is now moving for the first time towards 'provably-fair' gambling:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/08/31/bitzino-and-the-dawn-of-provably-fair-casino-gaming/

I believe there is a great opportunity here for Bitcoin Foundation to become a first successful organization in setting a precedent for 'provably-fair' voting and showing the rest of the world how voting should have been done in the first place. Please don't underestimate the importance of it.

I'm certain that Bitcoin won't only prove to be a base for future monetary systems but will become a potent tool for direct democracy where people vote for underlying principles of their society with their hash power and/or cryptographically signed messages. Thus 'provably-fair' voting is going to be a crucial part of that future.
legendary
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Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
October 17, 2012, 05:36:43 AM
wow there is a ton going on in this thread.

I run a little podcast each Wed. I would love to have someone representing the Bitcoin Foundation on the show tomorrow.  It airs live from 7-8ish PM Vegas time, then posted for podcasting after that.

I have an email out to someone in the organization as well.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
October 16, 2012, 06:36:07 PM
I think most of us would run away screaming, if Luke-Jr were lead dev ;p=

*hides in corner of room* jk <3

http://bitcoinchurch.org  he can always produce a "catholic" version of bitcoin with built in 10% "tithing"
donator
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I outlived my lifetime membership:)
October 15, 2012, 08:35:12 PM
Most of the developers - myself included - have an income unrelated to Bitcoin. Though few would refuse a donation for our work, I myself never expected any payment for it. I work on what I like to, and if that benefits the community, so much the better.

Gavin however has worked on Bitcoin full-time since a long time, without any other income, and at least in my opinion he does a great job. Certainly it shouldn't be this foundation's only purpose, but I see no harm in making sure he can keep working on this project.
+1
That's the main reason I joined...
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
October 15, 2012, 06:11:03 PM
great to hear that Gavin will be paid and that Jeff doesn't mind.
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