Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin on Blueseed, the international waters startup ship (Read 24312 times)

Thank you! Someone with a brain.

I wrote a very long, detailed post on this but it got erased so I will just retype the important points:



This project should have conducted an ECONOMIC FEASABILITY study before anything. This project screams negligent at best, scam at worst.

Realistically a project like would cost between $20 and $80 million. It basically appears to me you are pocketing people's donation money knowing full well this project will never produce any results.

Your Indeigogo campaign raises $20,000 for an engineering study. Again, why wouldn't you do an economic feasibility study first? Who is the engineer? Again, more donation money going into private pockets under the ruse of this project being realistic and the lie it would ever being realized.

Your BlueSeed website looks like it was made in 5 minutes, honestly. You FAQ addresses mundane and arbitrary topics, and ignores anything relevant and important.
Visas? Internet connection? Give me a break!



It's obvious this is a money grab for naive Bitcoiners money.

UPDATE: I read some more. It seems you have gone from your own ship, to chartering a cruise ship. This is unrealistic. Now what I read centers around bleeding overseas tech companies money, renting them a room on the cruise ship, based on the fact they couldn't get a visa and come to the mainland! What a crock!

Looks like someone had a better idea:

Boat stabilizes with the help of internal waves

http://www.sintef.no/home/MARINTEK/News/The-ship-that-waves-wont-rock/

Great talk Dan! Looking forward to Blueseed putting its first ship out.

Thanks Dan, listening to your talk now; let's change the world! ^_^

Hello again everyone!

With apologies for the absence, and with promises of answering all the intervening questions,
it is my pleasure to present the Blueseed talk from the Bitcoin 2013 conference, complete with slides and subtitles.

http://blueseed.co/wp-content/uploads/Bitcoin_talk_2013-May-19_720p_gray_play.jpg

The beauty of having a ship in International waters is that you can hire international workers that will work for less than minimum wage and be making much more than they would have back home.

I offered my services with setting up the computers and network but realized that likely they will likely hire several foreigners that will get paid what I would be asking. Part of the reason I do not offer my services on freelancer.

Yes, there is a current.  See this website:
http://hfradar.ndbc.noaa.gov/index.php?s=46247

The past 25 hour average is 13.1 cm/s at 031 degrees.  That is 0.47km/h or about 1/4 of a knot.  If they used the "drift and drive" technique you propose, they would drift for 20 hours for every one hour spent steaming at 5 knots.  Perhaps this is not as effective a method as it might have seemed.

Again, I offer the viewpoint that nothing is easy on the sea.  If it was, I would not be paid as well as I am to go to sea.

$99.99 per jug??? 

I can beat that price!

I offer $50 plus shipping and handling.

If there's a steady current, the this sort of steaming requires only minor course changes and no turning of 180. Let the current push you back a mile, steam forward a mile and back into center, power off, drift back a mile, correct course back to center, engine off, drift back a mile, etc.

Iirc, the current off California flows generally south, so assuming they'd faith a southerly current almost continually they'd be pointing the boat north permanently to do a figure-eight pattern.

That might preclude a traditional dock, but there may be ways around that too yet unthought of.

I suggest everyone watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fdwlFb-On0

I think you COMPLETELY missed the point of this. And by "missed" I mean "didn't read anything besides the topic heading."
Please go back and actually read the web page that describes what this is for, where it will be, what legal status it will have, etc, before spouting opinions about specifically what is covered on the FAQ.

Why do you need an offshore ship, what are the possible advantages unless you are trying to do something illegal?

If the above, the Govt will eventually find a way to get you and it's far easier to do it in a dozen other lawless countries anyway. Oh and it would also discourage genuine companies from being associated.

By the way, something similar was tried in the UK for many years, it's a fixed platform called Sealand and it was never successful.

are you guys going to need a chef? my wife is a professional chef with experience preparing food for very large groups of people. not just cafeteria food either, her background is in preparing fine food for wealthy people.  

Yep.  Looks like they might be able to put a floating dock alongside with an accom ladder up to that door.  Of course that precludes steaming in figure eights.

The figure eight steaming is a requirement for the fin stabilizers to work well enough to mitigate the anticipated ship motion due to sea state.  They will probably need to maintain a forward motion of at least 5 knots to get sufficient reaction force off the stabilizers for them to be effective.

This will be fun to watch.

Looks like there is a door on the side toward the rear.

I wonder when Blueseed intends to put this ship into service.  Currently it is still possible to book a cruise in the Med on the MS Island Escape for the summer of 2014.

http://www.thomson.co.uk/cruise/itineraries/glitz-and-glamour-itinerary.html

That implies MS Island Escape won't be on station until the Fall of 2014.  The weather usually holds until mid December.  Could be an interesting winter.

I still don't see a place to moor my yacht when I stop by for breakfast on my way to San Francisco.  For that matter, it is not obvious how they plan to do underway replenishment (UNREP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underway_replenishment ).  Cruise ships are not built for that.

I've been learning about ships lately.  I'd guess that the reason that this project has been advised to troll around in a figure-8 pattern is that the ship needs to be moving in order for the stabilizers to work.


Now think about what happens when you put a couple dozen of these on the bottom of a large stationary platform, and make the resistance provided by each one variable and computer-controlled.

It appears that they have selected the cruise ship:

http://technode.com/2013/05/23/blueseed-ready-to-charter-a-cruise-ship-to-accommodate-more-than-1000-entrepreneurs/

An idea to get media attention to projects like yours:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-entourage-212562