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Topic: [ANN] BitWhisk.io ✦ Bitcoin mixing service ✦ Fast, Secure, Awesome! - page 2. (Read 706 times)

hero member
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I hate to bring negativity to your service announcement, but I am one of the reviewers that have vouched for your service, as can be seen in the quote in your original post.

With that said, I must offer full disclosure and state that after I have seen your signature campaign and the bad actor that you've chosen to manage it, I have removed you from my list of trusted mixers. Please reference this quote from another one of your topics:

Although we are going a bit off-topic here, I feel it's still valid, as this is an evaluation thread for a service/site that you wanted feedback for.

Signature campaigns are effective, yes. But they are only as effective as the users that are a part of that campaign. Generally speaking, you're not going to find much use for 25 users to be a part of your campaign if the majority of them are 3rd-world shitposters that spam the wrong parts of the forum. The areas in which your participants post need to target your services. Chance are that Bitcoin Discussion doesn't warrant the need to display your ad, as it's generally filled with 3rd-world sig spammers who don't see a value in mixing coins, as their only goal is to cash out their earnings every week.

Honestly, if I were you, I would kill your signature campaign, and start a thread where you're looking to find [up to] 10 substantial members of this forum that you're willing to pay. Given that you're spending about 0.4BTC for two weeks, I'd rather take that and offer 0.01BTC per week for a month for up to 10 participants. Full Member and up only.

Mixers are very important to privacy, and with the shutdown of BitMixer, we've been seeing a lot popping up... Given that your UI is so clean, and your userflow is excellent, there's no reason why you shouldn't be one of the top competing mixers in this space. But perception is everything. Everything.

Unfortunately, after seeing that you hired a campaign manager without doing your homework has actually damaged my perception of your company. All of a sudden, it doesn't feel reputable or trustworthy, but rather one that seems like it will do anything to get the word out, even if that means hiring the bad actors in the crypto world that don't have any integrity. You simply cannot associate yourself with these types of members of the crypto world.

Aww, shit, BitWhisk, I had so much hope for you, but actions mean everything here, and I hate to say that you haven't made the right ones so far, other than this thread.

Honestly, this will go to show how quick you can damage your own reputation here; once you get past all the sig spammers and 3rd world shitposters, we actually are a very tight community who care deeply about not just this forum, but about Bitcoin as a whole. I wish you would have done more research before entering this space.

And I can honestly say that I believe if you don't rectify your situation with having a non-trusted member host your signature campaign, you are only shooting yourself in the foot. If I may be honest, I would have considered bankrolling a portion of your reserve if it weren't for that major mistake that you've made. Now? I won't even think about it twice.

Sorry, but until your signature campaign is done, can you please remove my review from the top post? I do not want to be associated with a company that associates with known scammers. Thank you.

Edit: OP has dealt with this matter swiftly. Please continue with leaving my review in tact. Kudos!
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Escrowing is good, but implementing it in a frank way would cost too much. For example, if mixer's reserve is 100BTC and they hold in escrow 10BTC this does not guarantee that all users will get the money back if mixer turns into scam, right? Actually, escrow should be much bigger than reserve, then it guarantees that people's money will not be lost. But it is a nonsense, nobody is going to hold 200BTC in escrow, while using only 100BTC in current reserve.

Concerning advertisement, we have just started our signature campaign, check it out.

As much as I understand that you guys may be in need of investment though, I would let the site run for a while before asking for any investments. It makes it seem like you're trying to get some quick money, since there is no shortage of coin mixer scams in the past.

We are not trying to convince anybody to put coins on our accounts, however we have a right to offer this to people. If we just stay in silence then obviously nothing is going to change, right? We are not expecting people to trust in us and invest right now, however something should be done, hence we decided to run a campaign and publicly announce our service. Maybe it works, maybe not. We are also extensively looking for investment by our private channels off the forum.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io


There is nothing wrong to escrow 10 bitcoin and it really makes sense, pretty enough for your mixer at this stage.
It's good you started signature campaign, it will really help you a lot if you would promote with 30 or more participant. But your manager has four red trust, it's not nice in other's eye, think about that too.
On another hand wish you success.
copper member
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Merit: 6
Site looks good. I think the fact that you're conducting a review campaign is definitely going to help with your public image, as well. However, I definitely think that it's going to hard for new mixers entering the scene because they don't have the trust of the public.

I agree with you, however, following this logic nothing new has a right to come up then, doesn't it? Just because first time nobody trusts a new product doesn't mean this product is going to turn into a scam. We put a lot of time and effort in developing this project, and we are satisfied with the result. We brought new features, which are not available with other mixers on the market. Moreover, we want to develop it further (you can check our roadmap on the investment page), but before that we need the current model start working, and for that purpose we need bigger reserve (concerning this, see my answer below). 

Either escrow some bitcoins to start off so that people have the peace of mind of knowing that they are protected, or launching some sort of advertising campaign will help as well based on what I've seen with other mixers.

Escrowing is good, but implementing it in a frank way would cost too much. For example, if mixer's reserve is 100BTC and they hold in escrow 10BTC this does not guarantee that all users will get the money back if mixer turns into scam, right? Actually, escrow should be much bigger than reserve, then it guarantees that people's money will not be lost. But it is a nonsense, nobody is going to hold 200BTC in escrow, while using only 100BTC in current reserve.

Concerning advertisement, we have just started our signature campaign, check it out.

As much as I understand that you guys may be in need of investment though, I would let the site run for a while before asking for any investments. It makes it seem like you're trying to get some quick money, since there is no shortage of coin mixer scams in the past.

We are not trying to convince anybody to put coins on our accounts, however we have a right to offer this to people. If we just stay in silence then obviously nothing is going to change, right? We are not expecting people to trust in us and invest right now, however something should be done, hence we decided to run a campaign and publicly announce our service. Maybe it works, maybe not. We are also extensively looking for investment by our private channels off the forum.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

hero member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 753
Site looks good. I think the fact that you're conducting a review campaign is definitely going to help with your public image, as well. However, I definitely think that it's going to hard for new mixers entering the scene because they don't have the trust of the public. Either escrow some bitcoins to start off so that people have the peace of mind of knowing that they are protected, or launching some sort of advertising campaign will help as well based on what I've seen with other mixers.

I like the fact that you have an option for unique time delay, that is a feature that I think a lot of people are going enjoy using.

As much as I understand that you guys may be in need of investment though, I would let the site run for a while before asking for any investments. It makes it seem like you're trying to get some quick money, since there is no shortage of coin mixer scams in the past.
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BitWhisk — mix Bitcoins with Whisk





BitWhisk is a new Bitcoin mixing service designed to defend your privacy. The project is built by a team of professional web developers and security experts. We stick to the highest level of business standards and help people maintain anonymity in Bitcoin network. We understand our business runs on your trust and our first priority task is to gain an excellent reputation. We are here to transform Blockchain into complete mess!

Main features:
  • Mobile friendly website with simple to use interface;
  • Working TOR-mirror;
  • Custom service commission between 0.5 and 3 percents;
  • Up to 10 target addresses;
  • Unique time delay (up to 48 hours) for every target address;
  • Smart minimum constraints depending on the order structure;
  • You control miner's fee for outcoming transactions;
  • Letter of Guarantee for every mixing order;
  • With us you can check the status of your order at any time;
  • JavaScript-free version of the website;
  • REST-API for developers.

Now, let us introduce our mixing service in the form of concise FAQ. You can always find the full answers on our website.

How does the mixing process work?
The essential scheme is very simple. You send us coins and we send them back to you from our reserve. You obtain your BTC from addresses that have absolutely no Blockchain relation to your transaction history.

How long does the mixing process take?
The answer depends on time delays you specified during the order process. Note that the delays are counted from the moment of your incoming transaction getting 2 confirmations (see below), not from the moment of creation of your order. Once the specified delays are over our backend code automatically sends your coins back to the target addresses.

Do you randomize the time delays?
Yes, we randomize long time delays with short intervals up to 10 minutes. This is done in order to increase complexity of our transaction history and exclude the situations where several of your target addresses are included in the same transaction. In turn, urgent payments are processed right away after your incoming transaction has been received.

How many confirmations do you need to accept transactions?
We accept all incoming transactions after 2 confirmations.

How long is incoming address valid for?
Generated address provided to you on the order page is valid only for 24 hours. All transactions paying to the address after this period will be ignored. Once all your delayed payments are processed the data concerning your order is completely deleted.

What logs do you keep?
Logs of any nature are not maintained. We do not store any information that can be used to identify the users either. All logs are wiped out on a routine basis to add to organizational efficiency and security of the users that rely upon us to maintain their anonymity.

Can I adjust miner's fee for outcoming transactions?
Yes, we provide our customers with a free choice of miner's fee rate for outcoming transactions made by our server. Please note, if your transaction gets stuck in mempool for 5 blocks and unconfirmed change is needed to process other customers payment we will resend it with higher miner's fee.

Do you use segwit addresses?
Yes, to reduce miner's fee for outcoming transactions made by our service all incoming payments are accepted to p2sh-segwit addresses. Moreover, with us you can forward your BTC to bech-32 addresses.



We carried out review campaign and obtained quite a lot of positive feedback. Thanks to everybody who participated and took a part in our development. Below are most memorable reviews.

I'm in a similar boat to Joe. I haven't forgotten about you guys either. I was around for the initial round of testing I believe and I wrote up a nice review about how enjoyable the UI looked on mobile devices (iOS, more specifically). I have also come back to mix some coins through your service, because it's unfortunate that you gave people coins specifically to test Nested SegWit addresses and nobody did so. I sent .002 through, with a delay and a custom fee. No problems thus far, very clean, very responsive and transparent. I can really see you guys becoming a bigger name in this niche. I would like to see a bigger maximum mix, but I can understand that you're working with limited capital from the beginning. I wouldn't mind accepting a reward, but I certainly am not expecting one, either.  Grin

After the 5hr delay I configured for this tumble, I have received my coins with no issues. I used a nested SegWit address to fund the mix, and received it to a nested SegWit address, as well. I went to check the status of my order after my coins were sent to me, and I’m glad to know that there was no reference to the order on your servers. After utilizing the service once, I must say that it is an extremely simple service to use; it’s the simplest out of all the mixers I have previously used.

Needless to say, but I will anyways: I have added this to the list of mixers that I use on a regular basis.

No need to send me any rewards for providing my experience. I just hope that this service is a continued one, and a profitable venture for you. You’ve got my vouch, so I hope you truly take the opportunity to gain some trust and reputation! Great addition to the privacy aspect of bitcoin!

We are currently seeking for investors ready to make a contribution to our mixing reserve. We offer our partners 70% of the profit according to their share. If you are interested, visit this page.

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Precautions:
Please, always check the domain names. The above links are the only correct ones. Always download and check the Letter of Guarantee before sending us any coins. Our official BTC address for signing messages is 1BWhisku6FmdcWk776vrqb2KHs88r5oicp. Finally, do not use clearnet link within a TOR-browser.


Have a nice and safe mixing with BitWhisk  Wink

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