Topic: [ANN] [BTCP] BitcoinPrivate: A Truly Private Bitcoin [Equihash] - page 129. (Read 117313 times)

Quote from: ZenFr on March 01, 2018, 03:28:06 PM

This coin is a pure scam and an idea is simply stolen from BTCZ. How many of you already lost money on this ZCL pump Grin

Yes, the real idea come from BTCz, I agree.
But there in no trouble : BTCz is still a better coin : no fork, no premine, no ICO, no centralized team, no hierarchy : the unique real anonimyzed Bitcoin is BTCz.
This Bitcoin Private is only to have more Bitcoin... or buying some BTCz.
Very sorry for the big losts of the ZCL buyers for this BTCP fork : -85% in less 24 h !!!

actually i think its the first Bitcoin * that is not a pure scam..

never heard of BTCz..
even if it would have the best tech and everything,
without hype and good exchanges is is worthless.
its all about Attraction and Hype.

and Bitcoin Private has a huge Hype and attention.
if Binance really will support trading i dont think ZCL holders have made a loss.

Your right, but only for very short term.
Yes marketting and hype are importants for speculatives operations, but only for very short term, generally very dangerous (we have a perfect example here for those who have buying ZCL to participate to this fork : they have lost 85% of they money).
BTCz is a long term coin, like BTC : the goal is the same marketcap as Bitcoin, but in a shorter time, before the first halving.

BTCZ doesn't seem to have too much miner support. This is one of the most crucial things when it comes to pow coins. ZCL had (and still has) huge miner support and so will BTCP.
Tbh I'm a miner my self and with fast googling couldn't even find proper reliable pools. This made me give up the idea of mining BTCZ instantly. I know BTCP has proper pool support, so I am happy to mine that when mainnet is launched.

I think these are different coins with same kind of idea (all Z are based on privacy as they have zksnarks). BTCP is merged from 2 coins, so you can't really say they stole the idea from BTCZ. BTCZ is basically just another Z coin in the family with BTC supply.

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Quote from: Manu84 on March 01, 2018, 02:20:43 PM

Quote from: Manu84 on March 01, 2018, 02:20:43 PM

This coin is a pure scam and an idea is simply stolen from BTCZ. How many of you already lost money on this ZCL pump Grin

Yes, the real idea come from BTCz, I agree.
But there in no trouble : BTCz is still a better coin : no fork, no premine, no ICO, no centralized team, no hierarchy : the unique real anonimyzed Bitcoin is BTCz.
This Bitcoin Private is only to have more Bitcoin... or buying some BTCz.
Very sorry for the big losts of the ZCL buyers for this BTCP fork : -85% in less 24 h !!!

actually i think its the first Bitcoin * that is not a pure scam..

never heard of BTCz..
even if it would have the best tech and everything,
without hype and good exchanges is is worthless.
its all about Attraction and Hype.

and Bitcoin Private has a huge Hype and attention.
if Binance really will support trading i dont think ZCL holders have made a loss.

Your right, but only for very short term.
Yes marketting and hype are importants for speculatives operations, but only for very short term, generally very dangerous (we have a perfect example here for those who have buying ZCL to participate to this fork : they have lost 85% of they money).
BTCz is a long term coin, like BTC : the goal is the same marketcap as Bitcoin, but in a shorter time, before the first halving.

BTCZ doesn't seem to have too much miner support. This is one of the most crucial things when it comes to pow coins. ZCL had (and still has) huge miner support and so will BTCP.
Tbh I'm a miner my self and with fast googling couldn't even find proper reliable pools. This made me give up the idea of mining BTCZ instantly. I know BTCP has proper pool support, so I am happy to mine that when mainnet is launched.

I think these are different coins with same kind of idea (all Z are based on privacy as they have zksnarks). BTCP is merged from 2 coins, so you can't really say they stole the idea from BTCZ. BTCZ is basically just another Z coin in the family with BTC supply.

ZenFr

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Quote from: mt55 on March 01, 2018, 05:14:25 AM

This coin is a pure scam and an idea is simply stolen from BTCZ. How many of you already lost money on this ZCL pump Grin

Yes, the real idea come from BTCz, I agree.
But there in no trouble : BTCz is still a better coin : no fork, no premine, no ICO, no centralized team, no hierarchy : the unique real anonimyzed Bitcoin is BTCz.
This Bitcoin Private is only to have more Bitcoin... or buying some BTCz.
Very sorry for the big losts of the ZCL buyers for this BTCP fork : -85% in less 24 h !!!

actually i think its the first Bitcoin * that is not a pure scam..

never heard of BTCz..
even if it would have the best tech and everything,
without hype and good exchanges is is worthless.
its all about Attraction and Hype.

and Bitcoin Private has a huge Hype and attention.
if Binance really will support trading i dont think ZCL holders have made a loss.

Your right, but only for very short term.
Yes marketting and hype are importants for speculatives operations, but only for very short term, generally very dangerous (we have a perfect example here for those who have buying ZCL to participate to this fork : they have lost 85% of they money).
BTCz is a long term coin, like BTC : the goal is the same marketcap as Bitcoin, but in a shorter time, before the first halving.

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Quote from: brooklynite1 on February 28, 2018, 08:18:52 PM

The price on Bittrex is amazing. It goes to show how Bittrex trades are fake bots. How the hell would buy at 3x the price of all other exchanges.

But I personally think the sell of on ZCL had no reason and the price could go back up to at least $80.

BTCP when starts trading could start at $200. Will see where it goes from there but if you ask me its at least worth as much as half of BCH or $600 so if starts trading at $200 it could run up after that.

If I remember correctly development for ZCL will stop completely. I doubt the price will go up again. Or has there someone been found now to continue the dev work?

Not quite! Here's a statement from Bitcoin Private FAQ: Question: 'What happens to ZCL after the fork?' ' Answer: 'ZClassic will still exist. The community has discussed keeping ZCL in active development after the fork. We think this is great and fully support this.'

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ibuku adalah segalanya(my mother is the best)

fork hard fork and fork..busittttt
just waiting real market showing BTCP
when market BTCP open????u thread 2 month ago

Manu84

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This coin is a pure scam and an idea is simply stolen from BTCZ. How many of you already lost money on this ZCL pump Grin

Yes, the real idea come from BTCz, I agree.
But there in no trouble : BTCz is still a better coin : no fork, no premine, no ICO, no centralized team, no hierarchy : the unique real anonimyzed Bitcoin is BTCz.
This Bitcoin Private is only to have more Bitcoin... or buying some BTCz.
Very sorry for the big losts of the ZCL buyers for this BTCP fork : -85% in less 24 h !!!

actually i think its the first Bitcoin * that is not a pure scam..

never heard of BTCz..
even if it would have the best tech and everything,
without hype and good exchanges is is worthless.
its all about Attraction and Hype.

and Bitcoin Private has a huge Hype and attention.
if Binance really will support trading i dont think ZCL holders have made a loss.

ZenFr

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Quote from: vibingpositively on March 01, 2018, 12:48:05 PM

This coin is a pure scam and an idea is simply stolen from BTCZ. How many of you already lost money on this ZCL pump Grin

Yes, the real idea come from BTCz, I agree.
But there in no trouble : BTCz is still a better coin : no fork, no premine, no ICO, no centralized team, no hierarchy : the unique real anonimyzed Bitcoin is BTCz.
This Bitcoin Private is only to have more Bitcoin... or buying some BTCz.
Very sorry for the big losts of the ZCL buyers for this BTCP fork : -85% in less 24 h !!!

raxiq

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This coin is a pure scam and an idea is simply stolen from BTCZ. How many of you already lost money on this ZCL pump Grin

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In BTCz we trust. Organic slow growth.

This fork is undoubtedly the best one of all the Bitcoin forks to have happened. It has an actual use case, now lets see if the dev can implement his vision before Bitcoin gets there. Got my fireworks ready, and am prepared for either outcome. GL!:)

It is except that the entire Dev team is MIA.

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This fork is undoubtedly the best one of all the Bitcoin forks to have happened. It has an actual use case, now lets see if the dev can implement his vision before Bitcoin gets there. Got my fireworks ready, and am prepared for either outcome. GL!:)

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Quote from: Lontonbit on March 01, 2018, 11:25:25 AM

Bitcoin private seems to be much more embraced by the community than any of the prior forks. The development team has more experience and seems much more professional than the other forks. The privacy features alone make this coin better than btg or bch. I believe we can expect a starting price of up to $200 and the future is very bright!

Experience in forking for sure but not in development Cheesy

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Quote from: brooklynite1 on March 01, 2018, 12:26:10 PM

Quote from: bercy on March 01, 2018, 10:38:20 AM

Hi,

Before the snapshot, I had an amount of Bitcoin on my Trezor.

If I understand correctly, I'm entitled to have an equal amount of BTCP.

Yes

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I also understand that my Trezor does not support BTCP (yet... ever ?).

Ever, I don't know, but for now yes for sure

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Question 1 : If I spend my BTC now, what happens to my unclaimed BTCP ?

Nothing, you have your BTCP already and it's better to move your BTCs before claiming anything

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Question 2 : Is there another way of claiming my BTCP besides waiting for Trezor support ? I think that I can import my Trezor private key into another wallet, but that would expose my Trezor key, no ?

Yes, don't do stupid things unless you really trust the destination wallet

Alternative is there: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions, and this is the most secure if you can use it

The drawback is that you need to do some little work to move your coins, it's not possible to do more simple without reverting to a dubious wallet sw

When I have a wallet with 20 addresses in it, does the 12 keyword key recreate the entire wallet with all of its addresses? Or does it only recreate one of them?

It's not a wallet sw, you need to identify the addresses where are your coins (so corresponding transactions with BTC, ZCL or BTCP explorer) before the fork and the associated privkey (in your wallet), and then create and send the transactions to the network

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Clicked on your link... now my head hurts

Can look complicate but it is not so much in fact

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Quote from: brooklynite1 on March 01, 2018, 12:26:10 PM

Quote from: bercy on March 01, 2018, 10:38:20 AM

Hi,

Before the snapshot, I had an amount of Bitcoin on my Trezor.

If I understand correctly, I'm entitled to have an equal amount of BTCP.

Yes

Quote

I also understand that my Trezor does not support BTCP (yet... ever ?).

Ever, I don't know, but for now yes for sure

Quote

Question 1 : If I spend my BTC now, what happens to my unclaimed BTCP ?

Nothing, you have your BTCP already and it's better to move your BTCs before claiming anything

Quote

Question 2 : Is there another way of claiming my BTCP besides waiting for Trezor support ? I think that I can import my Trezor private key into another wallet, but that would expose my Trezor key, no ?

Yes, don't do stupid things unless you really trust the destination wallet

Alternative is there: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions, and this is the most secure if you can use it

The drawback is that you need to do some little work to move your coins, it's not possible to do more simple without reverting to a dubious wallet sw

When I have a wallet with 20 addresses in it, does the 12 keyword key recreate the entire wallet with all of its addresses? Or does it only recreate one of them?

Yes, a deterministic wallet like the ledger nano will recreate the entire wallet (and all the addresses in it) from the keywords in the pass phrase. That's why before you use the keywords to recreate a wallet on a non-hardware wallet app you should move all your coins out that are associated with those addresses. You can think of exposing your pass phrase to a wallet app on your computer to claim a fork as burning that pass phrase from a security stand point. Non of the addresses associated with it should be used again.

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Quote from: brooklynite1 on March 01, 2018, 12:13:23 PM

Alternative is there: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions, and this is the most secure if you can use it

The drawback is that you need to do some little work to move your coins, it's not possible to do more simple without reverting to a dubious wallet sw

Clicked on your link... now my head hurts Undecided

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Quote from: Lontonbit on March 01, 2018, 11:25:25 AM

Bitcoin private seems to be much more embraced by the community than any of the prior forks. The development team has more experience and seems much more professional than the other forks. The privacy features alone make this coin better than btg or bch. I believe we can expect a starting price of up to $200 and the future is very bright!

Yes, based on many polls on twitter, BTCP is going to start trading at a minimum of 0.02 BTC and very few are going to sell for less. Who knows but in the first day of trading it will be very volatile and then it will stabilize.

There are several teams working on ZCL + DOGE fork to ZDoge where ZCL is going to be prices at 20,000:1 and Doge will be 1:1 ZDoge so those who sold ZCL under whale pressure without even getting their BTCP will regret like the guy who bought pizza with 30,000 BTC.

Oh sir, god really hear you. Your words are angelical sounds to my ear... y have 48 zcl before the fork and now i have devastated... but, I GONNA HODL UNTIL REACHES ZERO USD

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Quote from: dvince on March 01, 2018, 09:43:18 AM

what will happen to unclaimed BTCP from BTCs on exchanges and how will this affect the max supply for mining?

I'm sure the exchange owners will donate this BTCP to charity Grin

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Which exchanges have you contacted and what is the plan of action/rollout of them?

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