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In case you missed it Cheesy
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pinchecobadre, targeting a community member for helping out a patient is not cool.




. . . illegally advertising, promoting and selling cannabis products to non-patients and misleading an entire community into thinking these activities are legally permissible are equally as "un-cool".




 Cheesy

I'm sorry but you're not stopping the promotion Pinche, you can try all you want.

Call it a scam, call me a thief or a sleezy drug dealer all you want. It doesn't stick and as you could see I care nothing of what you think of me personally. Your antics will not detour me from my mission of making this a reality.

You can choose to keep up with your admiration for me, and I'll continue to keep proving you wrong and killing you with the kindness Grin

The spotlight is certainly on Cannacoin and its clear we have your attention.



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Both of us are medical cannabis patients under RCW69.51a of which I encourage you to look into for your concerns.



so, according to you, one "medical cannabis patient" can freely sell as much as he/she wants so long as the recipient is also a "medical cannabis patient" as those terms are defined in the RCW 69.51a?

I just want to make sure I completely understand your ignorance of the law.



You can legally distribute cannabis to up to 10 people at a time as long as you are within the limitations of no more then 24 ounces at a given time set forth by the law for your collective garden. Once again, I encourage you to read the law to understand it. This is how all medical collectives/dispensaries operate within Washington State.

69.51A.085
Collective gardens.
(1) Qualifying patients may create and participate in collective gardens for the purpose of producing, processing, transporting, and delivering cannabis for medical use subject to the following conditions:

     (a) No more than ten qualifying patients may participate in a single collective garden at any time;

     (b) A collective garden may contain no more than fifteen plants per patient up to a total of forty-five plants;

     (c) A collective garden may contain no more than twenty-four ounces of useable cannabis per patient up to a total of seventy-two ounces of useable cannabis;

     (d) A copy of each qualifying patient's valid documentation or proof of registration with the registry established in *section 901 of this act, including a copy of the patient's proof of identity, must be available at all times on the premises of the collective garden; and

     (e) No useable cannabis from the collective garden is delivered to anyone other than one of the qualifying patients participating in the collective garden.

     (2) For purposes of this section, the creation of a "collective garden" means qualifying patients sharing responsibility for acquiring and supplying the resources required to produce and process cannabis for medical use such as, for example, a location for a collective garden; equipment, supplies, and labor necessary to plant, grow, and harvest cannabis; cannabis plants, seeds, and cuttings; and equipment, supplies, and labor necessary for proper construction, plumbing, wiring, and ventilation of a garden of cannabis plants.



Regarding the possession of the collective and allowance of medicine to the patients.

The medical use of cannabis in accordance with the terms and conditions of this chapter does not constitute a crime and a qualifying patient or designated provider in compliance with the terms and conditions of this chapter may not be arrested, prosecuted, or subject to other criminal sanctions or civil consequences, for possession, manufacture, or delivery of, or for possession with intent to manufacture or deliver, cannabis under state law, or have real or personal property seized or forfeited for possession, manufacture, or delivery of, or for possession with intent to manufacture or deliver, cannabis under state law, and investigating peace officers and law enforcement agencies may not be held civilly liable for failure to seize cannabis in this circumstance, if:

     (1)(a) The qualifying patient or designated provider possesses no more than fifteen cannabis plants and:

     (i) No more than twenty-four ounces of useable cannabis;

     (ii) No more cannabis product than what could reasonably be produced with no more than twenty-four ounces of useable cannabis; or

     (iii) A combination of useable cannabis and cannabis product that does not exceed a combined total representing possession and processing of no more than twenty-four ounces of useable cannabis.

     (b) If a person is both a qualifying patient and a designated provider for another qualifying patient, the person may possess no more than twice the amounts described in (a) of this subsection, whether the plants, useable cannabis, and cannabis product are possessed individually or in combination between the qualifying patient and his or her designated provider;

     (2) The qualifying patient or designated provider presents his or her proof of registration with the department of health, to any peace officer who questions the patient or provider regarding his or her medical use of cannabis;

     (3) The qualifying patient or designated provider keeps a copy of his or her proof of registration with the registry established in *section 901 of this act and the qualifying patient or designated provider's contact information posted prominently next to any cannabis plants, cannabis products, or useable cannabis located at his or her residence;

     (4) The investigating peace officer does not possess evidence that:

     (a) The designated provider has converted cannabis produced or obtained for the qualifying patient for his or her own personal use or benefit; or

     (b) The qualifying patient has converted cannabis produced or obtained for his or her own medical use to the qualifying patient's personal, nonmedical use or benefit;

     (5) The investigating peace officer does not possess evidence that the designated provider has served as a designated provider to more than one qualifying patient within a fifteen-day period; and

     (6) The investigating peace officer has not observed evidence of any of the circumstances identified in *section 901(4) of this act.


[2011 c 181 § 401; 2007 c 371 § 5; 1999 c 2 § 5 (Initiative Measure No. 692, approved November 3, 1998).]


If you want more legal advice, you should call my legal counsel Jeffery Steinborn to answer questions you have about the legalities of my offerings.

Jeffrey Steinborn
3161 Elliott Ave #340, Seattle, WA 98121
(206) 622-5117

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Both of us are medical cannabis patients under RCW69.51a of which I encourage you to look into for your concerns.



so, according to you, one "medical cannabis patient" can freely sell as much as he/she wants so long as the recipient is also a "medical cannabis patient" as those terms are defined in the RCW 69.51a?

I just want to make sure I completely understand your ignorance of the law.



pinchecobadre, targeting a community member for helping out a patient is not cool.
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James, I know you care not to believe me or heed the warnings, but each and every message you post here about your marketing campaign, your promotion and all of your transactions is further evidence of your non-compliance with your own state's law / legal requirements.  It would be quite easy for anyone to show that you're nothing more than a sleazy unlicensed drug-dealer!

I'm not a vindictive person, but I can't speak for others who have gone to greater lengths in their due-diligence to find out who you people are.  A simple phone call to authorities from one of the many people you've pissed off on these forums and elsewhere could open up a real can of worms for you.  I hope you're prepared!  Legal counsel won't be cheap.


Happy 420 to you and yours -- Good luck.

 

While I appreciate your concers, Nothing about the transaction is illegal. Both of us are medical cannabis patients under RCW69.51a of which I encourage you to look into for your concerns.

You're more then welcome to call the authorities if you feel necessary.

Thank you,

-James
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Another Washington local supporting cannacoin!

Making it happen even on Easter!

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I agree to have your perspective welcomed while allowing your contributions to make the event even stronger.


-James


you're welcome for the free legal advice, BTW.


I'd encourage you to continue to seek legal counsel from an attorney licensed in your state and consider obtaining a legal memo confirming the legality of your operations, which, at the moment, are dubious at best.


Thanks Cheesy. Shoot us a CCN address for tips for your efforts.

4/20 event still on as planned. More sponsors and giveaway items in the works!
 


-James

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well, if your statement was not direct at me - the only one other than James and yourself posting here at the moment - then, that's my mistake and thank you for not grouping me in with people who FUD.....I wouldn't want to be labeled the same as James afterall  Wink






if you must know, i am speaking of the last 24 hour' posters Smiley
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ha good work, fudders are getting less and less to work with.

tobad this is a transparent community unlike most other crypto's


sorry, Razerglass, this was no F.U.D, but actual F . A . C . T .


clearly they agreed with my legal concerns; otherwise, they would not have changed a thing, right?


the fact that they changed based on my interpretation means I am an active "contributing" member to this community, keeping these shady characters honest, so, you're welcome!







i never called you a fudder, friend. i spoke generally "giving the fudders less to work with"   do you consider yourself a fudder as you seem that was targeted at you Cheesy


edit: yes thanks for the contribution Smiley
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ha good work, fudders are getting less and less to work with.

tobad this is a transparent community unlike most other crypto's


sorry, Razerglass, this was no F.U.D, but actual F . A . C . T .


clearly they agreed with my legal concerns; otherwise, they would not have changed a thing, right?


the fact that they changed based on my interpretation means I am an active "contributing" member to this community, keeping these shady characters honest, so, you're welcome!





I agree to have your perspective welcomed while allowing your contributions to make the event even stronger.


-James
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ha good work, fudders are getting less and less to work with.

tobad this is a transparent community unlike most other crypto's
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common cann you can do better than this, thanks for all the attention and promotion! cheers!


again, I am not here "on behalf of "CANN" or any of the others".  


James is so convinced that he's selling cannabis-related products "legally" and I am not so confident that he is.


He has admitted that he's not licensed under I-502 and is pointing to a statute who's application to him, his actions and CCN's promotions are "questionable" at best.


Forget the potential advertising issues for just a moment.  their 420 "promotion" is not advertising or limiting the deal only to "qualified patients", so right now, they're claiming to sell to any "Washington State Resident".

So as of right now, they are in violation of I-502 and cannot afford themselves any protections under RCW 69.51, unless they go back and limit their campaign solely to "qualified patients" as such term is defined under RCW 69.51.

Even if their campaign was limited to "qualified patients", I have a hard time believing they'd win a defense claiming they are a "designated provider" under that statute.

All-in-all, in my legal opinion, the State of Washington, if someone were to tip them off as to the CCN operations, would have little trouble finding evidence of non-compliance with what's being advertised here so publicly.


This is just a fair warning to CCN and all those transacting with this Dev team; their operation does not smell kosher.

Good luck, and I wish you well.....I'm a holder of CCN and will be profiting "legally" as this pump-n-dump continues.



Hold tight then, thanks for your concerns. We will see what the future will hold for all those in crypto and cannabis.

I assure you there are thousands and thousands of "collective gardens" under the state of RCW 69.51a, its how our medical program works. You will become more familiar with it soon the longer you stick around.

 Cool

Heres a photo of me and Shaggy from the Grass Shack Collective making it happen.



-James
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common cann you can do better than this, thanks for all the attention and promotion! cheers!
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you are saying you're the health care professional and I'm asking you to prove it by sharing your state-issued license.


to put the question more simply, how are you not just an unlicensed drug-dealer?



I was hoping you would ask Cheesy

RCW 69.51a is a patient to patient medical cannabis program. The program issued "recommendations" are just as common as someone with a drivers license this day in age. Many people in Washington already have this to protect themselves from the laws currently, It is recommended all participants have this prior to the event.

If you do not have this documentation, it can easily be acquired and I will help you seek the professional to provide it.

(1) Qualifying patients may create and participate in collective gardens for the purpose of producing, processing, transporting, and delivering cannabis for medical use subject to the following conditions:

     (a) No more than ten qualifying patients may participate in a single collective garden at any time;

     (b) A collective garden may contain no more than fifteen plants per patient up to a total of forty-five plants;

     (c) A collective garden may contain no more than twenty-four ounces of useable cannabis per patient up to a total of seventy-two ounces of useable cannabis;

     (d) A copy of each qualifying patient's valid documentation or proof of registration with the registry established in *section 901 of this act, including a copy of the patient's proof of identity, must be available at all times on the premises of the collective garden; and

You will join the cannacoin collective gardening program and we will exchange you medicine. We will have you agree to join, then sign out when you leave after the transaction.


If you do not have a RCW 69.51a authorization from a healthcare professional I WILL GLADLY exchange 4k CCN for the recommendation cost (you will schedule your appointment) and we will provide you the grams for free in this case. I work directly with healthcare professionals which will make this process very seamless for those who don't already have their recommendations.

Hope this helps,

-James
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"Health care professional," for purposes of this chapter only, means a physician licensed under chapter 18.71 RCW, a physician assistant licensed under chapter 18.71A RCW, an osteopathic physician licensed under chapter 18.57 RCW, an osteopathic physicians' assistant licensed under chapter 18.57A RCW, a naturopath licensed under chapter 18.36A RCW, or an advanced registered nurse practitioner licensed under chapter 18.79 RCW

You're understanding of the law is quite flawed. We're not issuing you a recommendation for rcw69.51a these are healthcare professionals who do this.

I'd encourage you and everyone else to read the following links:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=69.51a

http://www.liq.wa.gov/marijuana/I-502

By the looks of it you did not get all the way through the documentation yet.

Vast majority of the folks who have picked up concentrates and will pick up concentrates have already protected themselves for many years with RCW69.51a and these are the individuals who we will deal mostly with.

In our state it's very common to have this, almost as much so as your standard issued drivers license.

If you do not have a valid RCW69.51a documentation, that is NO problem, contact me directly and we can arrange to get you concentrates as long as you're in the state of Washington. I work with many healthcare professionals directly and will help anybody who does not have this paperwork already obtain it.

This is why the announcement was not placed last moment as there are kinks to work out to ensure a smooth roll out.

Thank you for your concerns and strengthening this promotion in a legal sense.

-James





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Jamesonotc:  your sale of cannabis concentrates, while commendable, would be prohibited under Washington State law if such sale was done without a state license.

Please share your state-issued license number to allow others to verify the legality of your claims and determine whether it would make sense to transact with someone who is running afoul of his own state's laws (not to mention federal law as well).  This would also help as you practice what you so vehemently preach in terms of "transparency".  

If you do not have a state-issued license permitting you to sell any cannabis concentrates, then as a lawyer, I'd advise you to stop doing so immediately lest someone feel inclined to report the local authorities of your illegal operations.

This "free advice" goes to the rest of the CCN team and its 420 promotional campaign.  If you do not have a state-issued license authorizing you to sell cannabis products to the general public (in state or out of state) and you are not willing to post or identify your State- issued license number for others to verify should they chose to do so, you run the risk  of losing your entire operation.  

If you're piggy-backing off someone else's license, make sure you're not fucking it all up for them by not having your own distribution license.


Good luck!




We're okay. If you have an concerns about the 420 promotion you or anyone else who is attempting to stop the 4/20 rally can come arrest me Cheesy. Our state offers the defense of i502 and also RCW 69.51a, I'm here to stand of and defend cannabis and our freedom. At anytime I can follow RCW 69.51 I will.

While I appreciate your concerns, it's of none to me.

I still have 100 Grams of concentrates & 100 grams of cannabis flowers ready for 4/20.

Do what you need to do and try and stop me. You're just bringing more attention to the promotion, which i'm sure you would like to stop if you could.*cough competition, cough*

If you ever been to Washington state you would know we have recreational & medical marijuana. I'd be down to take a toke with you, ill save you a few grams for you when you get here to show some northwest hospitality.

Cheers,

-James
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nice work Cannacoin
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