[ANN] CARTESI | BINANCE | The Operating System for DApps - page 39.

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Quote from: SPQRCoin on January 05, 2020, 08:08:07 AM

Can you tell the difference between digit? Can you feel the difference?
ETH > 1300$ > 130$ > -10x (ICO Coin Price: 1 ETH = 0,31 USD)
Wings > 2,58$ > 0,02278 -113x
ETH - #2 CMC
Wings - #637 CMC
ETH > continues development of the project
Wings > development of the project abandoned

Tell it to those who continue hold this token.

Ethereum was just an example, the absolute majority of projects, including these being worked on, have lost up to 95% of value, due to the nature of the bear market.

You keep repeating that the project was abandoned, while everyone can see the work on pivot here in Github:
https://github.com/WingsDao

These who continued to hold the token had all the opportunities to sell at profit during 2017 and 2018, and will hopefully be able to do it again once the bull markets return.

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Quote from: SyRenity on January 05, 2020, 07:57:06 AM

And Ethereum was 1300$ all time high and now 130$, so?

Can you tell the difference between digit? Can you feel the difference?
ETH > 1300$ > 130$ > -10x (ICO Coin Price: 1 ETH = 0,31 USD)
Wings > 2,58$ > 0,02278 -113x
ETH - #2 CMC
Wings - #637 CMC
ETH > continues development of the project
Wings > development of the project abandoned

Quote from: SyRenity on January 05, 2020, 07:57:06 AM

It was quite an achievement, especially considering the majority of ICO's made absolute losses to their investors.

Tell it to those who continue hold this token.

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Quote from: SPQRCoin on January 05, 2020, 02:30:21 AM

This is exactly what I meant, that projects are abandoned, then new ones are started. The smell of easy money is so sweet.

All Time High $2,58 USD Wink

and $0,022956 now

I'm going to start crying, such a small amount...

Do even you know what "pivot" is? It means that all Wings token holders will be able to convert their existing Wings tokens into the new project tokens. This as far from "abandoning" as possible.

And Ethereum was 1300$ all time high and now 130$, so? The bear market has hit hard everyone, especially projects that lost their value preposition as Wings once the ICO's were over. The next bull market will value projects that continued working and adapted, which exactly is what Wings are doing now.

Compared to absolute majority of projects out there it was a small amount, and Wings still managed bring it to a x100 market cap, trading all time high 200M$ (on addition to the rewards). It was quite an achievement, especially considering the majority of ICO's made absolute losses to their investors.

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Quote from: SyRenity on January 05, 2020, 02:19:14 AM

If you really cared about Wings, you would know the project is being pivoted into a new DeFi platform, pending to be re-launched later this year.

This is exactly what I meant, that projects are abandoned, then new ones are started. The smell of easy money is so sweet.

Quote from: SyRenity on January 05, 2020, 02:19:14 AM

And the token price is still higher than the donation price back in 2016...

All Time High $2,58 USD Wink

and $0,022956 now

Quote from: SyRenity on January 05, 2020, 02:19:14 AM

...where Wings collected less than 2M$

I'm going to start crying, such a small amount...

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Quote from: SPQRCoin on January 04, 2020, 04:22:49 AM

Or Stas Oskin (Core Dev & Bus Dev of Wings.ai), Boris Povod (Co-founder of Wings). And incidentally, do not tell me what now with his Wings project, why the price for the token has decreased many times? I know that they have not fully paid for their holders. These guys found a new topic, smelled new money. It's so simple!

First of all, you fail to mention that the project is being pivoted into a new DeFi platform, pending to be re-launched later this year. There will be a new token utility, oriented at value capturing, that aims to provide value to token holders.

Second the token price is still higher than the donation price back in 2016 (where Wings collected less than 2M$).

Third, if you mean by "paying holders" rewards that Wings platform provided in exchange for the forecasts, the only pending reward is Coti, which will be distributed onwards as well. The absolute majority of Wings rewards has been provided by the platform, resulting in over 10M$ of a distributed token value.

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Quote from: nira09 on January 01, 2020, 04:00:00 AM

Quote from: llhibionada on December 30, 2019, 08:23:36 AM

A 0.1 percent reward looks like some sort of taunt to the bounty participants. I think a very small number of people will be interested in participating in this. This is approximately 10-20 times less than the expected level of reward. Cry

At least this project is more realistic than most projects that promise large alocation for bounty program but end up fraudulent or will only become shitcoin. so far we do not know the price of Cartesi tokens. but we know that this project has several potential partnerships and has great advisors such as Serguei Popov (Co-Founder of IOTA)

Or Stas Oskin (Core Dev & Bus Dev of Wings.ai), Boris Povod (Co-founder of Wings). And incidentally, do not tell me what now with his Wings project, why the price for the token has decreased many times? I know that they have not fully paid for their holders. These guys found a new topic, smelled new money. It's so simple!

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Quote from: lemonandfriesonetwo on December 28, 2019, 01:16:41 AM

This project looks more legitimate because there is not intention to collect $$$ from people.

What do you mean "there is not intention to collect $$$ from people"?
Look at post above you. They just say, "Cartesi is not seeking public investments as of now.
But, when the time is appropriate, everything will be shared and all information will be revealed"

Don't rush to draw conclusions from something they haven't clearly revealed

It means they will eventually go and seek funds from investors. I don't find it legitimate but probably will waste the time of the bounty hunters if anything aren't going as planned. If I have to compare it to previous projects, its like the ones who wants to test the waters and if they find that there ain't much support, they will announce to postponed the IEO.

If they aren't confident if its going to get sponsored but maybe if they partnered with an exchange that will try to list them, it will work but you know teams without funds are just lazy as sloth.

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Quote from: lemonandfriesonetwo on December 28, 2019, 01:16:41 AM

This project looks more legitimate because there is not intention to collect $$$ from people.

What do you mean "there is not intention to collect $$$ from people"?
Look at post above you. They just say, "Cartesi is not seeking public investments as of now.
But, when the time is appropriate, everything will be shared and all information will be revealed"

Don't rush to draw conclusions from something they haven't clearly revealed

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Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 02, 2020, 10:14:30 AM

Quote from: jokers10 on January 02, 2020, 04:20:30 AM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 01, 2020, 05:27:15 PM

Why is this a "quality" project? It's just a website and some social media and plans. Every other project has that. There is nothing that sets this project apart from anything. Anyone could make a website and start social media and write out a white paper and road map. Not impressed.

Well, I can agree with you, that you never know which project will become a good working company and which will not. But reading a white paper you can expect more or less, and this project is one of very few which give more expectations than 99% others. If you are not impressed, it is normal, you can just choose another project from which you expect more.

The thing is all projects have what this project has. I can also make a website and an ICO page and social media. You can buy programs to make ICO and even fake the amount you have collected. It is a built-in feature.
I want to see an actual project over here. For one there is no one manning this thread. How can I take a project seriously when no one us manning their thread? Where is the pride?

yes, most projects do have the same thing, WP, website and social media accounts, the difference is their project team and how they realize what they write and plan. as well as how the project team made partnerships to support the project. and Cartesi has a good team, advisor and partnership

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As an official Turkish community manager, I just published Turkish translation of Cartesi's ANN page.

Also, you can join our Turkish community channel now: https://t.me/CartesiTR

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Quote from: Anonylz on January 03, 2020, 07:07:49 AM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 02, 2020, 10:14:30 AM

Quote from: jokers10 on January 02, 2020, 04:20:30 AM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 01, 2020, 05:27:15 PM

Why is this a "quality" project? It's just a website and some social media and plans. Every other project has that. There is nothing that sets this project apart from anything. Anyone could make a website and start social media and write out a white paper and road map. Not impressed.

Well, I can agree with you, that you never know which project will become a good working company and which will not. But reading a white paper you can expect more or less, and this project is one of very few which give more expectations than 99% others. If you are not impressed, it is normal, you can just choose another project from which you expect more.

The thing is all projects have what this project has. I can also make a website and an ICO page and social media. You can buy programs to make ICO and even fake the amount you have collected. It is a built-in feature.
I want to see an actual project over here. For one there is no one manning this thread. How can I take a project seriously when no one us manning their thread? Where is the pride?

By saying you want to see an actual project am guessing you mean a real product of this project, unfortunately only very few project in blockchain can boast of having a real life product, the majority are the same website, white paper and social media kinda project with empty promises, but you must understand that some who start in this manner eventually has a product to offer the public through development, so there is always a starting point, who knows how this project will fare in months ahead,

good thinking, I don't even know how this project will continue going forward, all of it is towards personal thoughts and personal trust in a project if you are not sure what to be there, if you believe in the project you will certainly provide support, specifically for the CERTASI project

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Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 02, 2020, 10:14:30 AM

Quote from: jokers10 on January 02, 2020, 04:20:30 AM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 01, 2020, 05:27:15 PM

Why is this a "quality" project? It's just a website and some social media and plans. Every other project has that. There is nothing that sets this project apart from anything. Anyone could make a website and start social media and write out a white paper and road map. Not impressed.

Well, I can agree with you, that you never know which project will become a good working company and which will not. But reading a white paper you can expect more or less, and this project is one of very few which give more expectations than 99% others. If you are not impressed, it is normal, you can just choose another project from which you expect more.

The thing is all projects have what this project has. I can also make a website and an ICO page and social media. You can buy programs to make ICO and even fake the amount you have collected. It is a built-in feature.
I want to see an actual project over here. For one there is no one manning this thread. How can I take a project seriously when no one us manning their thread? Where is the pride?

By saying you want to see an actual project am guessing you mean a real product of this project, unfortunately only very few project in blockchain can boast of having a real life product, the majority are the same website, white paper and social media kinda project with empty promises, but you must understand that some who start in this manner eventually has a product to offer the public through development, so there is always a starting point, who knows how this project will fare in months ahead,

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Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 02, 2020, 10:14:30 AM

Quote from: jokers10 on January 02, 2020, 04:20:30 AM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 01, 2020, 05:27:15 PM

Why is this a "quality" project? It's just a website and some social media and plans. Every other project has that. There is nothing that sets this project apart from anything. Anyone could make a website and start social media and write out a white paper and road map. Not impressed.

Well, I can agree with you, that you never know which project will become a good working company and which will not. But reading a white paper you can expect more or less, and this project is one of very few which give more expectations than 99% others. If you are not impressed, it is normal, you can just choose another project from which you expect more.

The thing is all projects have what this project has. I can also make a website and an ICO page and social media. You can buy programs to make ICO and even fake the amount you have collected. It is a built-in feature.
I want to see an actual project over here. For one there is no one manning this thread. How can I take a project seriously when no one us manning their thread? Where is the pride?

What do you mean nobody manages this thread? I think the admin is always monitoring this thread to see quality questions and they will always answer it happily, and this project is really planned so you don't need to ask about it just follow its development and I am sure the admin will let you know if there is an update.

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Quote from: jokers10 on January 02, 2020, 04:20:30 AM

Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 01, 2020, 05:27:15 PM

Why is this a "quality" project? It's just a website and some social media and plans. Every other project has that. There is nothing that sets this project apart from anything. Anyone could make a website and start social media and write out a white paper and road map. Not impressed.

Well, I can agree with you, that you never know which project will become a good working company and which will not. But reading a white paper you can expect more or less, and this project is one of very few which give more expectations than 99% others. If you are not impressed, it is normal, you can just choose another project from which you expect more.

The thing is all projects have what this project has. I can also make a website and an ICO page and social media. You can buy programs to make ICO and even fake the amount you have collected. It is a built-in feature.
I want to see an actual project over here. For one there is no one manning this thread. How can I take a project seriously when no one us manning their thread? Where is the pride?

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Quote from: Mike Mayor on January 01, 2020, 05:27:15 PM

Why is this a "quality" project? It's just a website and some social media and plans. Every other project has that. There is nothing that sets this project apart from anything. Anyone could make a website and start social media and write out a white paper and road map. Not impressed.

Well, I can agree with you, that you never know which project will become a good working company and which will not. But reading a white paper you can expect more or less, and this project is one of very few which give more expectations than 99% others. If you are not impressed, it is normal, you can just choose another project from which you expect more.

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Why is this a "quality" project? It's just a website and some social media and plans. Every other project has that. There is nothing that sets this project apart from anything. Anyone could make a website and start social media and write out a white paper and road map. Not impressed.

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Quote from: nira09 on January 01, 2020, 04:00:00 AM

Quote from: llhibionada on December 30, 2019, 08:23:36 AM

A 0.1 percent reward looks like some sort of taunt to the bounty participants. I think a very small number of people will be interested in participating in this. This is approximately 10-20 times less than the expected level of reward. Cry

At least this project is more realistic than most projects that promise large alocation for bounty program but end up fraudulent or will only become shitcoin. so far we do not know the price of Cartesi tokens. but we know that this project has several potential partnerships and has great advisors such as Serguei Popov (Co-Founder of IOTA)

This project has a lot of focus on development so marketing may not be necessary because they have so many investors willing to invest. Maybe 0.1% for bounty campaigns is very small but I still appreciate their work and this will surely be one of the most interesting projects in the future.

I hope the value of this coin will rise higher than the original price and there will always be good liquidity for all participating investors.

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Quote from: llhibionada on December 30, 2019, 08:23:36 AM

A 0.1 percent reward looks like some sort of taunt to the bounty participants. I think a very small number of people will be interested in participating in this. This is approximately 10-20 times less than the expected level of reward. Cry

At least this project is more realistic than most projects that promise large alocation for bounty program but end up fraudulent or will only become shitcoin. so far we do not know the price of Cartesi tokens. but we know that this project has several potential partnerships and has great advisors such as Serguei Popov (Co-Founder of IOTA)

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Quote from: Anonylz on December 31, 2019, 08:38:44 AM

Quote from: jokers10 on December 31, 2019, 03:12:20 AM

Quote from: llhibionada on December 30, 2019, 08:23:36 AM

A 0.1 percent reward looks like some sort of taunt to the bounty participants. I think a very small number of people will be interested in participating in this. This is approximately 10-20 times less than the expected level of reward. Cry

Well, as I see, the more projects which have any perspectives, have a small amount of tokens for bounty, but usually they don't stop forming their community after the bounty end. So, there is a choice of participating in scam bounties with high rewards (usually even not paid) or to take part in a prospective bounty with low rewards or not to take part at all. Yes, all of us would prefer higher rewards from real projects, but it is not 2017 year now...

The truth is those project with elaborate reward often turn out to be worthless, the reward will only sound good on the bounty thread but during the time of listing (i.e if it get listed at all) the price will be way less than what is expected, sometimes, good and dedicated project do limit the reward pool for bounty in the interest of the project and investors,

so even if reward is small, as long as project is legit with better development is way better than elaborate reward that is worthless with shady teams.

Even now I don't like the bounty project written in a thread with a large amount of value. I think it is not a serious project they just want to promote so that many people are interested in the bounty they are running.

Nila bounty is now even lower after entering the market and there are many dumps due to sales from large-scale hunters so the project cannot be confirmed like 2017 anymore.

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Quote from: jokers10 on December 31, 2019, 03:12:20 AM

Quote from: llhibionada on December 30, 2019, 08:23:36 AM

A 0.1 percent reward looks like some sort of taunt to the bounty participants. I think a very small number of people will be interested in participating in this. This is approximately 10-20 times less than the expected level of reward. Cry

Well, as I see, the more projects which have any perspectives, have a small amount of tokens for bounty, but usually they don't stop forming their community after the bounty end. So, there is a choice of participating in scam bounties with high rewards (usually even not paid) or to take part in a prospective bounty with low rewards or not to take part at all. Yes, all of us would prefer higher rewards from real projects, but it is not 2017 year now...

The truth is those project with elaborate reward often turn out to be worthless, the reward will only sound good on the bounty thread but during the time of listing (i.e if it get listed at all) the price will be way less than what is expected, sometimes, good and dedicated project do limit the reward pool for bounty in the interest of the project and investors,

so even if reward is small, as long as project is legit with better development is way better than elaborate reward that is worthless with shady teams.

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