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legendary
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which reminds me ... joblo - i am building a windows 10 x64 system and the only thing missing now is the compilation system for the granite windows wallets ...

i remember you had a small 'howto' set up somewhere for such installs in windows ...

do you have the link please mate? ...

#crysx

I've never compiled a wallet on Windows, or anything else except ccminer. I managed to get it done but that doesn't
make me an expert. If you have a source package with all the Windows project files it should just be a matter of
installing VS Community and building the solution. The only thing of note in my cryptic howto was modifying the compute
version in the cuda options. In your case it should be bread and butter Windows compilation.
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---
But I don't have a 4 core CPU...  Sad

What I do have is a gt610 in a winxp32* machine that stays running 24/7/365. (*I've also recently made the switch to live usb ubuntu to do away with the hard drives, but willing to revert if needed.) I've been desperately trying to find a miner that I can run (Lyra2rev2 especially) but apparently being a 32 bit system is making that an impossible task.

Low hash rates and negative $ profit are of no concern as long as there are valid shares being delivered to something. CCminer is just so close to perfect for this but yet still out of reach.

If this is a total pipe dream and beyond the scope of ccminer, I'm sorry to have wasted time in this topic. Alternatively, if anyone would be willing to point me in the right direction of a miner that would work, please do; I would appreciate it tremendously.

Your main problem is that you want to mine a new algo on old HW.  An older version of ccminer would probably
work but you would be more limited in your choice of algos. 32 bit PCs aren't the problem, I've got one mining
with Win7-32 and all precompiled versions are 32 bit anyway, I think the problem is XP. Compiling on Win7 and above
may no longer work on XP. Your best bet is to compile on XP, I don't know if you've tried that yet.

agreed ...

though compiling on old os systems like xp havetheir own issues ...

which reminds me ... joblo - i am building a windows 10 x64 system and the only thing missing now is the compilation system for the granite windows wallets ...

i remember you had a small 'howto' set up somewhere for such installs in windows ...

do you have the link please mate? ...

#crysx
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
But I don't have a 4 core CPU...  Sad

What I do have is a gt610 in a winxp32* machine that stays running 24/7/365. (*I've also recently made the switch to live usb ubuntu to do away with the hard drives, but willing to revert if needed.) I've been desperately trying to find a miner that I can run (Lyra2rev2 especially) but apparently being a 32 bit system is making that an impossible task.

Low hash rates and negative $ profit are of no concern as long as there are valid shares being delivered to something. CCminer is just so close to perfect for this but yet still out of reach.

If this is a total pipe dream and beyond the scope of ccminer, I'm sorry to have wasted time in this topic. Alternatively, if anyone would be willing to point me in the right direction of a miner that would work, please do; I would appreciate it tremendously.

Your main problem is that you want to mine a new algo on old HW.  An older version of ccminer would probably
work but you would be more limited in your choice of algos. 32 bit PCs aren't the problem, I've got one mining
with Win7-32 and all precompiled versions are 32 bit anyway, I think the problem is XP. Compiling on Win7 and above
may no longer work on XP. Your best bet is to compile on XP, I don't know if you've tried that yet.
hero member
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But I don't have a 4 core CPU...  Sad

What I do have is a gt610 in a winxp32* machine that stays running 24/7/365. (*I've also recently made the switch to live usb ubuntu to do away with the hard drives, but willing to revert if needed.) I've been desperately trying to find a miner that I can run (Lyra2rev2 especially) but apparently being a 32 bit system is making that an impossible task.

Low hash rates and negative $ profit are of no concern as long as there are valid shares being delivered to something. CCminer is just so close to perfect for this but yet still out of reach.

If this is a total pipe dream and beyond the scope of ccminer, I'm sorry to have wasted time in this topic. Alternatively, if anyone would be willing to point me in the right direction of a miner that would work, please do; I would appreciate it tremendously.
blzflkn you might want to look at this

http://cryptomining-blog.com/2668-what-version-of-ccminer-to-use-for-your-nvidia-geforce-gpu/
newbie
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But I don't have a 4 core CPU...  Sad

What I do have is a gt610 in a winxp32* machine that stays running 24/7/365. (*I've also recently made the switch to live usb ubuntu to do away with the hard drives, but willing to revert if needed.) I've been desperately trying to find a miner that I can run (Lyra2rev2 especially) but apparently being a 32 bit system is making that an impossible task.

Low hash rates and negative $ profit are of no concern as long as there are valid shares being delivered to something. CCminer is just so close to perfect for this but yet still out of reach.

If this is a total pipe dream and beyond the scope of ccminer, I'm sorry to have wasted time in this topic. Alternatively, if anyone would be willing to point me in the right direction of a miner that would work, please do; I would appreciate it tremendously.
legendary
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Geforce GT 610, Fermi, compute 2.1, 48 cuda cores.

My mistake, missed it when I checked the list. You wouldn't get much out of it anyway, a 4 core
cpu could probably do better.
newbie
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Geforce GT 610, Fermi, compute 2.1, 48 cuda cores.
legendary
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Can't get win32 to do it.. No luck on linux.. Bios on my other computer won't let me use the card.. Most algos rarely give accepted shares if at all with other miners..

I guess my 610 is going to sit out cold.  Sad

610 is not a cuda gpu.
newbie
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Can't get win32 to do it.. No luck on linux.. Bios on my other computer won't let me use the card.. Most algos rarely give accepted shares if at all with other miners..

I guess my 610 is going to sit out cold.  Sad
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---

You should go for the gtx 750 with 1gig of memory. Pick it up for less that $100 on ebay. overclock the core to 1,5 Ghz and get 6,2MHASH@quark with a tdp of 38Watt.. Some time ago quark was paying 0.1BTC per GHASH, but the market has crashed. Most altcoins are not profitable anymore.  

$0.33 a day ROI in 300 days with free power.. But you can also mine lyra2v2@4MHASH


Okay, I'm still learning. So would it be true to say that a Maxwell 750 will outperform a Keplar 780? Or are there optimized forks for each still giving the 780 an edge? And in terms of computing power, it the 750ti worth the few extra dollars?

Don't discard an old card if it's bought and paid for, use it. But if you're buying new, definitely go maxwell.

A 780ti will hash double a 750ti on most algos with either fork. The downside with the 780ti is power consumption,
about 4 times a 750ti. The 780 vs 750 comparison is probably similar. I can't speak for sm 3.0.

The obsession with 750/750ti is they appear to be the most power efficient cards available which is important for farms
where electricity is a major expense.


i can back that 'appearance' ...

all the cards in thefarm are now gigabyte 750ti oc lp ... and we have never had a bill so low ( as opposed to the gigabyte 7970 oc / 280x oc cards ) ...

in comparison to the other nvidia cards - i cant help ... we just researched that the 750ti was the most valuable asset that a farm can buy ... and the electricity bills are the proof ... especially due to australia being one of the most expensive in the world with electricity charges ...

#crysx
Yes you are right about efficiency
Not sure if its proprietary info

but need to ask what your setting is for scrypt and ?

scrypt is not an algo that gets mined on thefarm ...

none of this stuff in proprietary info Tongue ... i have just never setup a test machine to document it all ... power bills are my indication - and when you have a farm of machines - the difference is huge ...

but if you can provide the parameters required to mine using scrypt ( optimized parameters for 750ti oc cards ) - i would be happy to test with a machine that has one of the cards installed and do some variables testing ( algos ) and record power consumption using a wall meter ... using epsylon3 ccminer 1.7 of course - and his donation mining link as a test link so that everyone can see the progress ( from here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-chainworks-industries-cwi-project-donate-by-mining-dbm-1089744 ... and his link address here - https://www.nicehash.com/?p=miners&addr=1AJdfCpLWPNoAMDfHF1wD5y8VgKSSTHxPo&a=0&l=0 ) ...

#crysx
legendary
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Using the x86 latest release, I'm getting a * is not a valid win32 application error. I'm using WinXP 32bit with a 2.1 card on a spare computer and upgrading that one is not an option, nor is relocating it to a better machine. I really want it to work and I'm having trouble finding any good algorithms that cooperate on older/different versions.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

That error indicates a problem with the ccminer.exe executable, probably not compatible with WinXP32. Since
you've eliminated most options the only one left is to try building ccminer from source on your XP machine.
Even if it's possible (I doubt that it is) it's not worth the effort.
hero member
Activity: 726
Merit: 504

You should go for the gtx 750 with 1gig of memory. Pick it up for less that $100 on ebay. overclock the core to 1,5 Ghz and get 6,2MHASH@quark with a tdp of 38Watt.. Some time ago quark was paying 0.1BTC per GHASH, but the market has crashed. Most altcoins are not profitable anymore.  

$0.33 a day ROI in 300 days with free power.. But you can also mine lyra2v2@4MHASH


Okay, I'm still learning. So would it be true to say that a Maxwell 750 will outperform a Keplar 780? Or are there optimized forks for each still giving the 780 an edge? And in terms of computing power, it the 750ti worth the few extra dollars?

Don't discard an old card if it's bought and paid for, use it. But if you're buying new, definitely go maxwell.

A 780ti will hash double a 750ti on most algos with either fork. The downside with the 780ti is power consumption,
about 4 times a 750ti. The 780 vs 750 comparison is probably similar. I can't speak for sm 3.0.

The obsession with 750/750ti is they appear to be the most power efficient cards available which is important for farms
where electricity is a major expense.


i can back that 'appearance' ...

all the cards in thefarm are now gigabyte 750ti oc lp ... and we have never had a bill so low ( as opposed to the gigabyte 7970 oc / 280x oc cards ) ...

in comparison to the other nvidia cards - i cant help ... we just researched that the 750ti was the most valuable asset that a farm can buy ... and the electricity bills are the proof ... especially due to australia being one of the most expensive in the world with electricity charges ...

#crysx
Yes you are right about efficiency
Not sure if its proprietary info

but need to ask what your setting is for scrypt and ?
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
Using the x86 latest release, I'm getting a * is not a valid win32 application error. I'm using WinXP 32bit with a 2.1 card on a spare computer and upgrading that one is not an option, nor is relocating it to a better machine. I really want it to work and I'm having trouble finding any good algorithms that cooperate on older/different versions.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---

You should go for the gtx 750 with 1gig of memory. Pick it up for less that $100 on ebay. overclock the core to 1,5 Ghz and get 6,2MHASH@quark with a tdp of 38Watt.. Some time ago quark was paying 0.1BTC per GHASH, but the market has crashed. Most altcoins are not profitable anymore.  

$0.33 a day ROI in 300 days with free power.. But you can also mine lyra2v2@4MHASH


Okay, I'm still learning. So would it be true to say that a Maxwell 750 will outperform a Keplar 780? Or are there optimized forks for each still giving the 780 an edge? And in terms of computing power, it the 750ti worth the few extra dollars?

Don't discard an old card if it's bought and paid for, use it. But if you're buying new, definitely go maxwell.

A 780ti will hash double a 750ti on most algos with either fork. The downside with the 780ti is power consumption,
about 4 times a 750ti. The 780 vs 750 comparison is probably similar. I can't speak for sm 3.0.

The obsession with 750/750ti is they appear to be the most power efficient cards available which is important for farms
where electricity is a major expense.


i can back that 'appearance' ...

all the cards in thefarm are now gigabyte 750ti oc lp ... and we have never had a bill so low ( as opposed to the gigabyte 7970 oc / 280x oc cards ) ...

in comparison to the other nvidia cards - i cant help ... we just researched that the 750ti was the most valuable asset that a farm can buy ... and the electricity bills are the proof ... especially due to australia being one of the most expensive in the world with electricity charges ...

#crysx
sr. member
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Great answer. Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114

You should go for the gtx 750 with 1gig of memory. Pick it up for less that $100 on ebay. overclock the core to 1,5 Ghz and get 6,2MHASH@quark with a tdp of 38Watt.. Some time ago quark was paying 0.1BTC per GHASH, but the market has crashed. Most altcoins are not profitable anymore. 

$0.33 a day ROI in 300 days with free power.. But you can also mine lyra2v2@4MHASH


Okay, I'm still learning. So would it be true to say that a Maxwell 750 will outperform a Keplar 780? Or are there optimized forks for each still giving the 780 an edge? And in terms of computing power, it the 750ti worth the few extra dollars?

Don't discard an old card if it's bought and paid for, use it. But if you're buying new, definitely go maxwell.

A 780ti will hash double a 750ti on most algos with either fork. The downside with the 780ti is power consumption,
about 4 times a 750ti. The 780 vs 750 comparison is probably similar. I can't speak for sm 3.0.

The obsession with 750/750ti is they appear to be the most power efficient cards available which is important for farms
where electricity is a major expense.
sr. member
Activity: 346
Merit: 250

You should go for the gtx 750 with 1gig of memory. Pick it up for less that $100 on ebay. overclock the core to 1,5 Ghz and get 6,2MHASH@quark with a tdp of 38Watt.. Some time ago quark was paying 0.1BTC per GHASH, but the market has crashed. Most altcoins are not profitable anymore. 

$0.33 a day ROI in 300 days with free power.. But you can also mine lyra2v2@4MHASH


Okay, I'm still learning. So would it be true to say that a Maxwell 750 will outperform a Keplar 780? Or are there optimized forks for each still giving the 780 an edge? And in terms of computing power, it the 750ti worth the few extra dollars?
legendary
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I've always gone with what was stated in the wiki. I'm pretty sure the same info is stated on the nVidia web site as well. I will gladly try compiling for 3.0 and see if it works. Probably not till tomorrow though. Will report back my results. thanks all for chipping in to help.  Smiley
Z
Just reporting back that yes indeed, building for SM3.0 for my card that nVidia and the Wiki both state is 3.5 did the trick. Looking through the makefile of ccminer 1.2 I see that it was building for both 3.0 and 3.5 so that's why it worked. Some bitquark (quark algo) hashrate comparisons from that machine:
ccminer 1.2 = ~1200KH/s
ccminer 1.6.6 = ~950KH/s
A little disappointed with that. Hoping the share rates are higher to compensate but that's harder to gauge. I'll be trying 1.7 tonight.
With the current prices you will make $0,05775 of mining quark 24 H @ 1MHASH
Old hardware is a waste of power. Supporting the old hardware is a waste of time...
sp please go back to your thread... (your attacks are so pathetic, that it doesn't even deserve to be commented...)

This is not an attack this is just facts. A well coded 980ti kernal can mine quark easily at 35MHASH.

35x the speed of the old shitcards and with 250W of power. Instead of 5 cents a day you earn $1.75 and that's enough to cover the powerbill and give you free beers in the weekend.
Sorry to stir up such a shit-storm. I mean. yes, at some point one does have to look at the economies of their hobby if they want to move beyond it being just a hobby. 35MH/s mining quark from a single card sure got my attention, until I looked at the average price on ebay trending about $675 a pop. That's a very big investment for such a small return. And in 3-4 years when you've finally broken even, the card itself will have probably depreciated in value to pennies on the dollar. To really be in the game you have to be rotating out cards no more than 1 year old to get any resale value, constantly updating miner software to keep up with the flow of newer, and better cards coming out, yatta yatta yatta. I'll leave it to the kids. I'm too old already for that nonsense.

And calling it an attack I think might be overstating it just a bit. A little blunt and abrasive, maybe. I fit that description sometimes too so I try to overlook it in others. Deep breath, everyone. There. Doesn't that feel better?  Cool
ok lets get back to the basis: The reason why a coin is mined is to propagate and expand its network through many peers, hence you get a reward for that. Sure if you can get "rich" in the process, that's good too.
But pure profit has never been the "raison d'être" of the PoW, you do something for a coin you get a reward.
So may-be I am a naïve idealistic moron, but believing PoW is just about making money is a bit minimalist (and probably the reason why many coins are considering PoS instead, so that there isn't a bunch of greedy miners dumping on anyone interested in a coin).

What I mean, there are people who wants to mine with their hardware and support the network of their favorite coin and don't necessarily want to upgrade to the latest hardware, I got many request both for neoscrypt and lyra (you can see on reddit, they are people who just want to mine, no matter what. And you can look into other thread they are many request as well from people who wants to mine with the card they have.

So upgrade, sure I encourage anyone to buy the latest bad ass new shit (at 600$/gpu), but not everyone wants that and before becoming a "serious" mining farm you start that as a hobby and you just want to try (and altcoin/bitcoin community is a little more than getting rich fast  )

That was my first point  Grin

The second, you can ask whatever you want to a dev or another but as long as no-one donate anything or ask a dev to work (and pay him... ),  a dev is still free to work on whatever pleases him and makes a thread about it, without having anyone coming to shit on his parade  (especially when the person is using the that code and again there are other way to contact a dev... ) Grin
sp_
legendary
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Team Black developer
I've always gone with what was stated in the wiki. I'm pretty sure the same info is stated on the nVidia web site as well. I will gladly try compiling for 3.0 and see if it works. Probably not till tomorrow though. Will report back my results. thanks all for chipping in to help.  Smiley
Z
Just reporting back that yes indeed, building for SM3.0 for my card that nVidia and the Wiki both state is 3.5 did the trick. Looking through the makefile of ccminer 1.2 I see that it was building for both 3.0 and 3.5 so that's why it worked. Some bitquark (quark algo) hashrate comparisons from that machine:
ccminer 1.2 = ~1200KH/s
ccminer 1.6.6 = ~950KH/s
A little disappointed with that. Hoping the share rates are higher to compensate but that's harder to gauge. I'll be trying 1.7 tonight.
With the current prices you will make $0,05775 of mining quark 24 H @ 1MHASH
Old hardware is a waste of power. Supporting the old hardware is a waste of time...
sp please go back to your thread... (your attacks are so pathetic, that it doesn't even deserve to be commented...)

This is not an attack this is just facts. A well coded 980ti kernal can mine quark easily at 35MHASH.

35x the speed of the old shitcards and with 250W of power. Instead of 5 cents a day you earn $1.75 and that's enough to cover the powerbill and give you free beers in the weekend.
Sorry to stir up such a shit-storm. I mean. yes, at some point one does have to look at the economies of their hobby if they want to move beyond it being just a hobby. 35MH/s mining quark from a single card sure got my attention, until I looked at the average price on ebay trending about $675 a pop. That's a very big investment for such a small return. And in 3-4 years when you've finally broken even, the card itself will have probably depreciated in value to pennies on the dollar. To really be in the game you have to be rotating out cards no more than 1 year old to get any resale value, constantly updating miner software to keep up with the flow of newer, and better cards coming out, yatta yatta yatta. I'll leave it to the kids. I'm too old already for that nonsense.

And calling it an attack I think might be overstating it just a bit. A little blunt and abrasive, maybe. I fit that description sometimes too so I try to overlook it in others. Deep breath, everyone. There. Doesn't that feel better?  Cool

You should go for the gtx 750 with 1gig of memory. Pick it up for less that $100 on ebay. overclock the core to 1,5 Ghz and get 6,2MHASH@quark with a tdp of 38Watt.. Some time ago quark was paying 0.1BTC per GHASH, but the market has crashed. Most altcoins are not profitable anymore. 

$0.33 a day ROI in 300 days with free power.. But you can also mine lyra2v2@4MHASH

legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1082
ccminer/cpuminer developer
Else yes, there are some weird results in the global benchmark, i even do a devicereset to reduce that but i've no idea of the reason... it doesn't look like related to allocated device memory.

Putting lyra first seems better
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