Topic: [ANN] [CLD] XCloudcoin | Profit Share | XCloudIM | 1 Million coins - page 97. (Read 113801 times)
August 08, 2014, 05:34:43 PM
August 08, 2014, 05:28:07 PM
August 08, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
He don´t need to mention that, cause it´s a "OPEN SOURCE", so there´s no licences. Also, how you can say "it´s impossible" if the coin it´s not lauched? And, it can be scam cause the ico it´s on Bittrex, so if the dev don´t do what it says here on the lauch, he it´s not going to get the money from bittrex.
All the alt coins are based on Bitcoin, that makes alt coins scams? And bitcoin it´s based in a lot of crypto proyects, that makes bitcoin scam?
I never mentioned anything about licenses. I know that Bittrex is providing escrow, but I bet he was banking on the thought that nobody would find out about this before Bittrex handed over the escrow funds.
Now explain to me this :
- Why exactly wouldn't dminer69 post that XCloudcoin is based fully on ownCloud?
- Why would he claim that these are XCloudcoin's features when in fact it's just ownCloud rebranded?
- Explain to me how XCloudcoin is supposed to be decentralized in any way when everything is hosted on one server.
- Explain to me how dminer69, intends to create a wallet for a decentralized currency that needs to work inside software designed to run off a single server, especially when that software is PHP-based and there are few if any PHP-libraries for Bitcoin let alone other crypto-currencies.
August 08, 2014, 05:10:11 PM
The profit sharing plan is awesome, but why is it restricted only to ICO investors?
Post-ICO buying and holding would be incentivized if people were allowed to participate at that point. On the other-hand, if you can't participate it will be a deterrent to buy after the ICO. Why would anybody buy and hold large amounts after the ICO when they know they are missing out on a key benefit of being a large holder?
Post-ICO buying and holding would be incentivized if people were allowed to participate at that point. On the other-hand, if you can't participate it will be a deterrent to buy after the ICO. Why would anybody buy and hold large amounts after the ICO when they know they are missing out on a key benefit of being a large holder?
The incentive is your return on investment from investing in CLD. You forget each time the price goes up everyone benefits.
August 08, 2014, 05:04:01 PM
August 08, 2014, 04:51:57 PM
Not yet but if xcloud reveals an unknown public desire to pay cryptocurrency for on-line storage these big companies will be able to start taking Bitcoin or anything else pretty much instantly. It would be turn-key for them. They don't take crypto now because their marketing departments haven't identified a need.
Do they accept crypto-currency ?
What is the reason consumers will use this service instead of Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Dropbox, etc. all of which offer more-or-less the same services with easier payment options (credit card, etc.) more security, mission critical infrastructure, 24 hour support and a legal fiduciary responsibility to do the utmost to keep the data on their systems extant and as secure as possible.
Do they accept crypto-currency ?
Are you saying XCloudcoin will be leading innovation in cloud solution.
If Xcloud gets the 10s of millions of dollars in Venture Capital funding they'd need to give Google or Microsoft a run for the money ...
August 08, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
Time to bust this...
I just happened to look into this thread and I was intrigued by the features offered by XCloudCoin, but they didn't seem to add up..... the type of features offered don't quite seem feasible/decentralized or weren't adequately explained, and there weren't really any technical details explaining how this system would work. So then I scrolled down to the screenshots which gave away everything...
What all your "cloud features" are, is simply ownCloud : https://owncloud.org/. Which is open source "personalized" cloud software, that is neither decentralized, nor developed by XCloudcoin's dminer69. ownCloud is meant to be installed and run off a single server, meaning it's fully centralized, and all the "features" XCloudcoin provides is all from the ownCloud software.
Take a look at the login page for XCloudcoin and then for ownCloud notice the similarities. Now look at all the screenshots
dminer69 has not done any development whatsoever, he's just used ownCloud, rebranded it and "made" it into XCloudcoin, and fooled people into thinking that he's developed "cloud features". I've worked with ownCloud before and it's PHP-based software intended to run off a single server. So XCloudcoin is not decentralized and doesn't have any features. But I'm not calling this a scam yet...
Now let's go to the wallet we see in the screenshots. There are 1 of 2 posibilities.
1. The image is edited to make it seem like there is a wallet there (most likely based on previous findings)
2. dminer69 has to create PHP-libraries to make it an "app" that could fit into ownCloud (http://apps.owncloud.com/- this process is impossible thanks to the ownCloud framework and restrictions) for XCloudcoin that would allow it to somehow allow it be decentralized while operating off a single server (highly unlikely)
Now let's go back to the screenshots and take a look at the interface. Compare that to the interface of ownCloud 6 :
Furthermore if you look closely at the last picture you'll see the "News" app (which is also open source and not developed by dminer69), which is one of the so called "features" XCloudcoin offers.
Now you decide, whether this is a scam or not, I've given you all the info. Before the die-hard fanatics/sockpuppets come after me, ask yourselves this question, if dminer69 was so trustworthy, why not mention the fact that XCloudcoin in its entirety was based wholly of ownCloud?
I just happened to look into this thread and I was intrigued by the features offered by XCloudCoin, but they didn't seem to add up..... the type of features offered don't quite seem feasible/decentralized or weren't adequately explained, and there weren't really any technical details explaining how this system would work. So then I scrolled down to the screenshots which gave away everything...
What all your "cloud features" are, is simply ownCloud : https://owncloud.org/. Which is open source "personalized" cloud software, that is neither decentralized, nor developed by XCloudcoin's dminer69. ownCloud is meant to be installed and run off a single server, meaning it's fully centralized, and all the "features" XCloudcoin provides is all from the ownCloud software.
Take a look at the login page for XCloudcoin and then for ownCloud notice the similarities. Now look at all the screenshots
dminer69 has not done any development whatsoever, he's just used ownCloud, rebranded it and "made" it into XCloudcoin, and fooled people into thinking that he's developed "cloud features". I've worked with ownCloud before and it's PHP-based software intended to run off a single server. So XCloudcoin is not decentralized and doesn't have any features. But I'm not calling this a scam yet...
Now let's go to the wallet we see in the screenshots. There are 1 of 2 posibilities.
1. The image is edited to make it seem like there is a wallet there (most likely based on previous findings)
2. dminer69 has to create PHP-libraries to make it an "app" that could fit into ownCloud (http://apps.owncloud.com/- this process is impossible thanks to the ownCloud framework and restrictions) for XCloudcoin that would allow it to somehow allow it be decentralized while operating off a single server (highly unlikely)
Now let's go back to the screenshots and take a look at the interface. Compare that to the interface of ownCloud 6 :
Furthermore if you look closely at the last picture you'll see the "News" app (which is also open source and not developed by dminer69), which is one of the so called "features" XCloudcoin offers.
Now you decide, whether this is a scam or not, I've given you all the info. Before the die-hard fanatics/sockpuppets come after me, ask yourselves this question, if dminer69 was so trustworthy, why not mention the fact that XCloudcoin in its entirety was based wholly of ownCloud?
August 08, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
No offense and I am not accusing shenanigans but I don't like the necessary move over into a personal wallet immediately after what happened with Zipcoin.
August 08, 2014, 03:32:49 PM
The premine percentage will be changed after the ICO ended to reflect the actual number of coins sold on Bittrex. However the number of the premine will still remain at 150,000 because that was the number used by private investors to assesed the future value of XCloudcoin File Hosting Share.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
Dev, I think you are smart enough to see where we are coming from.
You NEED to reinstate the 5 million coin total then distribute the coins proportionally to everyone depending on their investment in the ICO.
This is the ONLY FAIR thing to do. Anything else and you are just being greedy. Less coins means more coins for dev which means the coins are worth more so more money for him.
Also you have not stated as to what you are going to do with the premined coins? Will you be selling 50% of the premine to pay off this "loan"? Where is proof of such a loan?
This is ICO not IPO and the price is fixed. Once Bittrex destroyed a coin it's gone forever. They can't keep changing the terms because someone is not happy with it.
How are they going to distribute the coins proportionally to everyone depending on their investment in the ICO ? Do you think it's possible to identity all the buyers that bought on exchange. Will Bittrex have the required time to search all their database?
They already stated how they going to spend the premine. Please give him/her your bank account number so that he can verify the $25,000.
The XCloudcoin Team received a loan of $25,000 from private investors for the file hosting development costs which will be repaid using the operational costs.
20% Xcloudcoin signup bonus program
30% Promotional Campaign
50% operational costs
August 08, 2014, 03:17:41 PM
The premine percentage will be changed after the ICO ended to reflect the actual number of coins sold on Bittrex. However the number of the premine will still remain at 150,000 because that was the number used by private investors to assesed the future value of XCloudcoin File Hosting Share.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
Dev, I think you are smart enough to see where we are coming from.
You NEED to reinstate the 5 million coin total then distribute the coins proportionally to everyone depending on their investment in the ICO.
This is the ONLY FAIR thing to do. Anything else and you are just being greedy. Less coins means more coins for dev which means the coins are worth more so more money for him.
Also you have not stated as to what you are going to do with the premined coins? Will you be selling 50% of the premine to pay off this "loan"? Where is proof of such a loan?
August 08, 2014, 03:04:09 PM
Not yet but if xcloud reveals an unknown public desire to pay cryptocurrency for on-line storage these big companies will be able to start taking Bitcoin or anything else pretty much instantly. It would be turn-key for them. They don't take crypto now because their marketing departments haven't identified a need.
Do they accept crypto-currency ?
What is the reason consumers will use this service instead of Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Dropbox, etc. all of which offer more-or-less the same services with easier payment options (credit card, etc.) more security, mission critical infrastructure, 24 hour support and a legal fiduciary responsibility to do the utmost to keep the data on their systems extant and as secure as possible.
Do they accept crypto-currency ?
Are you saying XCloudcoin will be leading innovation in cloud solution.
August 08, 2014, 02:54:31 PM
Not yet but if xcloud reveals an unknown public desire to pay cryptocurrency for on-line storage these big companies will be able to start taking Bitcoin or anything else pretty much instantly. It would be turn-key for them. They don't take crypto now because their marketing departments haven't identified a need.
Do they accept crypto-currency ?
What is the reason consumers will use this service instead of Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Dropbox, etc. all of which offer more-or-less the same services with easier payment options (credit card, etc.) more security, mission critical infrastructure, 24 hour support and a legal fiduciary responsibility to do the utmost to keep the data on their systems extant and as secure as possible.
Do they accept crypto-currency ?
August 08, 2014, 02:35:23 PM
The premine percentage will be changed after the ICO ended to reflect the actual number of coins sold on Bittrex. However the number of the premine will still remain at 150,000 because that was the number used by private investors to assesed the future value of XCloudcoin File Hosting Share.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
No mining is good, miners and whales will not manipulate the price which will affect the plan pricing structure. You definitely knows what you are talking about. Amazing marketing campaign so far please keep it up after ICO.
August 08, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
The premine percentage will be changed after the ICO ended to reflect the actual number of coins sold on Bittrex. However the number of the premine will still remain at 150,000 because that was the number used by private investors to assesed the future value of XCloudcoin File Hosting Share.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
Xcloud is not purely an investment or hoarders coin, we expect people to buy the coins on the market for payment of our Coud Storage Services. The Initial Coin Offering was used as a price mechanism in determing the price structure of XCloudcoin Storage Services and to further stabilized the price we decided to remove the mining parameters from the coin specifications. XCloudcoin Plan will be backed by the ICO price which will be adjusted periodic on average market price.
August 08, 2014, 02:16:51 PM
What is the reason consumers will use this service instead of Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Dropbox, etc. all of which offer more-or-less the same services with easier payment options (credit card, etc.) more security, mission critical infrastructure, 24 hour support and a legal fiduciary responsibility to do the utmost to keep the data on their systems extant and as secure as possible.
Do they accept crypto-currency ?
August 08, 2014, 02:07:01 PM
What is the reason consumers will use this service instead of Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Dropbox, etc. all of which offer more-or-less the same services with easier payment options (credit card, etc.) more security, mission critical infrastructure, 24 hour support and a legal fiduciary responsibility to do the utmost to keep the data on their systems extant and as secure as possible.
August 08, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
The only way is to either reinstated the 5 mil then distribute it proportional to the investment or to reduce the premine to 3% of new total coin supply.
You keep going on about the premine and it is irrelevant. There is no incentive for the dev team to dump when they have built services that depend on the success of CLD. I rather an upfront and transparent premine than some hidden premine. If the premine is that much of a concern for you then don't invest.
The premine is never irrelevant. There is always incentive to dump, it is called "money". And I am actually a bit confused by in what way the services depend on the price of XCLD? Can you elaborate? Nobody is saying they would rather trade an upfront premine for a hidden one, so I don't know why that comparison comes up... Nobody is saying to get rid of the premine either, but rather to reduce it to the amount that it was originally intended to be. It still says 3% in the OP. "(3%) (with the initial 5m) (we have to wait in till the end of the ico to see what amounts get destroyed for a final %)". That is confusing. At the very least change the OP to reflect the current situation so as not to mislead potential investors. It should say something along the lines of "15% or greater depending on how many coins are destroyed after the ICO."
Btw you look like a shill being a newbie and having never posted on here except in this thread- only in response to criticisms- with overtly one-sided comments.
Everyone with a new account isn't a shill. If the premine is a issue for you then don't invest. They shouldn't have to change their business plan because one or two people do not agree.
The only part of my comment you really respond to is the part where I point out that you look like a shill... I didn't say everyone with a new account is a shill, I pointed out that the fact that you are new, have only commented on this thread, and only in response to "FUD" with purely positive comments is suspicious.
Okay, don't change the business plan- but change the OP to reflect reality. Oh and I promise you more than one or two people are apprehensive about the premine/IPO combo.
"And I am actually a bit confused by in what way the services depend on the price of XCLD? Can you elaborate?"
Care to elaborate?
The profit sharing plan is awesome, but why is it restricted only to ICO investors?
Post-ICO buying and holding would be incentivized if people were allowed to participate at that point. On the other-hand, if you can't participate it will be a deterrent to buy after the ICO. Why would anybody buy and hold large amounts after the ICO when they know they are missing out on a key benefit of being a large holder?
August 08, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
Dev please clearify this issue instead of letting this guys going crazy.
So 1000000 for purchasers
How much for bountys and how much for the dev?
August 08, 2014, 11:54:47 AM
The only way is to either reinstated the 5 mil then distribute it proportional to the investment or to reduce the premine to 3% of new total coin supply.
You keep going on about the premine and it is irrelevant. There is no incentive for the dev team to dump when they have built services that depend on the success of CLD. I rather an upfront and transparent premine than some hidden premine. If the premine is that much of a concern for you then don't invest.
The premine is never irrelevant. There is always incentive to dump, it is called "money". And I am actually a bit confused by in what way the services depend on the price of XCLD? Can you elaborate? Nobody is saying they would rather trade an upfront premine for a hidden one, so I don't know why that comparison comes up... Nobody is saying to get rid of the premine either, but rather to reduce it to the amount that it was originally intended to be. It still says 3% in the OP. "(3%) (with the initial 5m) (we have to wait in till the end of the ico to see what amounts get destroyed for a final %)". That is confusing. At the very least change the OP to reflect the current situation so as not to mislead potential investors. It should say something along the lines of "15% or greater depending on how many coins are destroyed after the ICO."
Btw you look like a shill being a newbie and having never posted on here except in this thread- only in response to criticisms- with overtly one-sided comments.
Everyone with a new account isn't a shill. If the premine is a issue for you then don't invest. They shouldn't have to change their business plan because one or two people do not agree.
August 08, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
The only way is to either reinstated the 5 mil then distribute it proportional to the investment or to reduce the premine to 3% of new total coin supply.
You keep going on about the premine and it is irrelevant. There is no incentive for the dev team to dump when they have built services that depend on the success of CLD. I rather an upfront and transparent premine than some hidden premine. If the premine is that much of a concern for you then don't invest.
The premine is never irrelevant. There is always incentive to dump, it is called "money". And I am actually a bit confused by in what way the services depend on the price of XCLD? Can you elaborate? Nobody is saying they would rather trade an upfront premine for a hidden one, so I don't know why that comparison comes up... Nobody is saying to get rid of the premine either, but rather to reduce it to the amount that it was originally intended to be. It still says 3% in the OP. "(3%) (with the initial 5m) (we have to wait in till the end of the ico to see what amounts get destroyed for a final %)". That is confusing. At the very least change the OP to reflect the current situation so as not to mislead potential investors. It should say something along the lines of "15% or greater depending on how many coins are destroyed after the ICO."
Btw you look like a shill being a newbie and having never posted on here except in this thread with overtly one-sided comments.
Don´t get mad man, look at this: "150,000 CLD will be allocated for bounties. (3%) (with the initial 5m) (we have to wait in till the end of the ico to see what amounts get destroyed for a final %)" They will reduce the premine when the ico ends.
Yeah I saw that, it is quoted in my comment.. 3% should not be stated as it is completely irrelevant and misleading now. The minimum premine is now 15%.
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