I'm gunna go on a long sloppy rant and feed you trolls.
Community is a huge part of a coin. If it looks as though holders and everyone around it and in it are mature and knowledgeable then I'm confident. If it looks like a bunch of angsty teenage kids who got lucky or are freaking out over $20 then I hesitate. Arguing about features that they will never understand. Plus, and this is the most important one. I come here to read up on updates and news. More than just twitter feeds I want to read about user experiences with betas. I don't have time to read all the shit in the IRC room. I come here for the few of you who wade through all that muck and post the cream of the crop in here so I can cross verify it. (By the way to those of you who do that I am very thankful.)
As far as turning people off, I'm not just talking about whales, but what about people who have a few grand in bitcoin and are looking for a coin to invest in, like I was. You can't say "Well fuck that guy he can't move the market LOL U MAD BRO? [dealwithit.jpg]." Of course he can't move the market, but what about 100 of them? How many people who actually do look at the community as some kind of reflection on the coin (however misguided that might be) have you guys turned away with your childish bullshit? You guys are self fudding yourself by fighting those you deem fudders. Not everyone who holds and "invests" in crypto knows what they're doing.
"good riddance, we don't need noob buying our coin anyway." argument. If everyone who bought cloakcoin to make profit pulled out we would be in single satoshi by now. I argue that we do in fact need those people if our goal is to make money. Please spare me your fake hippy bullshit about making the world a better place.
I understand where you are coming from. I believe that a community can help a coin, however, that is limited to the coin and it's offering. As an example I offer Doge. That was one of the strongest communities in crypto. A serious force du jour that garnered press, invited new people in, etc. The main drawback to Doge is not the community for I argue the community was a plus, but Doge itself. Now, Cloak aims higher and with it brings a certain technicality that threatens other communities. In the early days of darkcoin, that thread was a litter box of trolls and fud, similar to cloak's thread. I see no harm in the community responding to fud with gifs. I believe the community will eventually learn the best way for this community to deal with the 'fud' and trolls. Everyone here is still learning and just coming together as a community. I know you want maturity, but I would rather have developers developing. This is not to insinuate you don't want that either. I think it's a huge jump to make that extrapolating that a thread that doesn't even comprise the whole community makes the community immature and prone to selling. My view, and you may disagree which is cool, is to let the community form freely without restriction. You or others who feel it is immature may post to bring the thread back to more engaging topics. I do not like the trolls, but I do find humor in the gifs, the memes, what have you. These are not the same people working on cloak. We are different but my view is to let the community be and worry about development. I know not everyone shares my thoughts, and I am concerned by the small investors as well. I think if you, and I mean a person of the community and not you directly, want a more mature thread then you must be willing to put forth the effort to make it so. Post questions. Post discussion topics. Post how you think we should handle trolls. This community, nor any other, is not a set thing, but an ever changing mass of ideas and personality which can be shaped by those who participate. Community is a huge part of a coin. If it looks as though holders and everyone around it and in it are mature and knowledgeable then I'm confident. If it looks like a bunch of angsty teenage kids who got lucky or are freaking out over $20 then I hesitate. Arguing about features that they will never understand. Plus, and this is the most important one. I come here to read up on updates and news. More than just twitter feeds I want to read about user experiences with betas. I don't have time to read all the shit in the IRC room. I come here for the few of you who wade through all that muck and post the cream of the crop in here so I can cross verify it. (By the way to those of you who do that I am very thankful.)
As far as turning people off, I'm not just talking about whales, but what about people who have a few grand in bitcoin and are looking for a coin to invest in, like I was. You can't say "Well fuck that guy he can't move the market LOL U MAD BRO? [dealwithit.jpg]." Of course he can't move the market, but what about 100 of them? How many people who actually do look at the community as some kind of reflection on the coin (however misguided that might be) have you guys turned away with your childish bullshit? You guys are self fudding yourself by fighting those you deem fudders. Not everyone who holds and "invests" in crypto knows what they're doing.
"good riddance, we don't need noob buying our coin anyway." argument. If everyone who bought cloakcoin to make profit pulled out we would be in single satoshi by now. I argue that we do in fact need those people if our goal is to make money. Please spare me your fake hippy bullshit about making the world a better place.
... sell it all, pussies like you cant move the market 
