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Topic: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA - page 541. (Read 1266572 times)

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found this on another thread....

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Altcoins are only good for making quick bucks at the beginning when they're released. That "launch/hype" momentum very rarely comes back and in the case of Vertcoin, I think something big big must happen so it breaks this downtrend. When I say big I do think of things like Bitcoin successfully 51% attacked, together with people massively moving to altcoins. Do I think something big will happen? Mostly no, but there's always a small chance. You see, even stealth addresses didn't help Vertcoin's value, and it's almost that I can't think of any bigger event related to Vertcoin's development. Maybe acceptance among darknet markets, but somehow I do think they will accept Darkcoin instead, even Monero, they're kind of more anonymous oriented than Vert.
History is repeating with every altcoin: initial hype and rise and then slow and painful death. Bitcoin is so strong that it seems it already won cryptocurrency war, and it can even be anonymous if you're using it through Tor. Seems like no other coin has so much better properties which would help dethrone Bitcoin.
Made some good bucks with DRK and XMR, but in the case of Vertcoin it seems like I came late to the party, lost like 15k $ already and I do think it maybe is even good time to exit, even with loses because generally I do think when one altcoin starts to decline - 99% of the time it's declining to death, and it's not just the case with Vertcoin, it's the case with every altcoin no matter how good it is.
Maybe, and just maybe we can count on rise of altcoins in next Bitcoin bubble which really should happen soon.
That's the cryptocurrency game in my eyes right now... Bitcoin already won, altcoins are good only if you catch them at the beginning

the decline seems scary

Meh. All the dial-up internet companies thought the same thing until cable/dsl shit on them. IBM thought the same thing too until HP/DELL/Gateway shit on them. Ford/Chevy thought the same thing until Honda/Toyota shit on them. Technology is an ever evolving industry. This space in particular is moving faster than anything I've ever seen. It's harder for bitcoin to innovate and cater to different markets vs a lean altcoin. A lightweight operation like Cloakcoin can develop and test brand new features that are light years ahead of bitcoin without having massive investor/developer/miner backlash.

IMO, what you'll eventually see is the emerging of cryptocurrencies that represent cash (Cloak/Mixcoin/etc) and ones that replicate credit cards/checks etc (Bitcoin/Litecoin). Both having their place in commerce and individuals who prefer one over the other. Not to mention commodity based coins which could represent entire industries. Later down the road looking at coin specific industries one might be able to tell how that market is doing giving the volume via exchanges or another metric. For someone to say "Bitcoin has won" I doubt they understand technology trends or how crypto will affect industries. We're only beginning to scratch the surface here.

Becoming a market leader requires investors who believe in the product and the vision. Some people got out of Bitcoin at $1, some at $10 and some at $100. The people who made the most money are the ones that held for the long term. Cloak's ecosystem makes you think twice about dumping at an ATH because of all the value added services we have coming down the pipeline. I really don't know how to break it down further to anyone who thinks $10 is a reasonable price for crypto with trustless anon. If you think that then you obviously haven't been in the anon space for very long. Anoncoin has been working on trustless anon for almost a year now. Darkcoin for over 8 months.. I could honestly see this coin going well beyond the $100 mark for what is being developed here. Once this ball is moving the dev team is just going to get bigger and bigger and more shit will happen alot faster. Faster than anyone can clone this.
hero member
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found this on another thread....

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Altcoins are only good for making quick bucks at the beginning when they're released. That "launch/hype" momentum very rarely comes back and in the case of Vertcoin, I think something big big must happen so it breaks this downtrend. When I say big I do think of things like Bitcoin successfully 51% attacked, together with people massively moving to altcoins. Do I think something big will happen? Mostly no, but there's always a small chance. You see, even stealth addresses didn't help Vertcoin's value, and it's almost that I can't think of any bigger event related to Vertcoin's development. Maybe acceptance among darknet markets, but somehow I do think they will accept Darkcoin instead, even Monero, they're kind of more anonymous oriented than Vert.
History is repeating with every altcoin: initial hype and rise and then slow and painful death. Bitcoin is so strong that it seems it already won cryptocurrency war, and it can even be anonymous if you're using it through Tor. Seems like no other coin has so much better properties which would help dethrone Bitcoin.
Made some good bucks with DRK and XMR, but in the case of Vertcoin it seems like I came late to the party, lost like 15k $ already and I do think it maybe is even good time to exit, even with loses because generally I do think when one altcoin starts to decline - 99% of the time it's declining to death, and it's not just the case with Vertcoin, it's the case with every altcoin no matter how good it is.
Maybe, and just maybe we can count on rise of altcoins in next Bitcoin bubble which really should happen soon.
That's the cryptocurrency game in my eyes right now... Bitcoin already won, altcoins are good only if you catch them at the beginning

the decline seems scary
so much wrong here. Correct next BTC bubble coming.
sr. member
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Who or what is putting up those 177cloak sells on bittrex? It's getting annoying.
newbie
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Is there any chance with the next wallet release we can fix the missing library file.  I am concerned that the average user, when prompted with a wallet install error about the missing file, will just give up.  I mean, the wallet holds coins, valuable stuff, and if a new user does not have confidence in that, this can really hurt mass adoption.

I know you developers are busy as all getout on PoSA and OneMarket, but the foundation of a solid wallet I think cannot be put on the back burner for much longer.

From what i've read earlier in the thread is that theDagger said that there will be an installer for the new release. I'd imagine this is still the case, but i haven't heard anything about it since most of the focus was shifted to POSA being released sooner rather than later.

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A good Windows installer will solve this problem as well as make the coin more professional to the general public.

Ya.. I hope they put that on the list of things to do.

Confirmed.

We'll have an installer soon.
sr. member
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me lol i think 100dollar is posible wen its posa real posa and onemarket

Don't be delusional.  I would be happy with a $10 price, which is what DRK hit at its (more or less stable) peak.

I think Dark hit closer to 20...

Yep. DRK hit close to $20 with the promise of an anon protocol that wasn't trustless. This is the 1st implementation of trustless anon. @eatenbyargue you would be delusional to think we can't hit those heights.
newbie
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Is there any chance with the next wallet release we can fix the missing library file.  I am concerned that the average user, when prompted with a wallet install error about the missing file, will just give up.  I mean, the wallet holds coins, valuable stuff, and if a new user does not have confidence in that, this can really hurt mass adoption.

I know you developers are busy as all getout on PoSA and OneMarket, but the foundation of a solid wallet I think cannot be put on the back burner for much longer.
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found this on another thread....

Quote
Altcoins are only good for making quick bucks at the beginning when they're released. That "launch/hype" momentum very rarely comes back and in the case of Vertcoin, I think something big big must happen so it breaks this downtrend. When I say big I do think of things like Bitcoin successfully 51% attacked, together with people massively moving to altcoins. Do I think something big will happen? Mostly no, but there's always a small chance. You see, even stealth addresses didn't help Vertcoin's value, and it's almost that I can't think of any bigger event related to Vertcoin's development. Maybe acceptance among darknet markets, but somehow I do think they will accept Darkcoin instead, even Monero, they're kind of more anonymous oriented than Vert.
History is repeating with every altcoin: initial hype and rise and then slow and painful death. Bitcoin is so strong that it seems it already won cryptocurrency war, and it can even be anonymous if you're using it through Tor. Seems like no other coin has so much better properties which would help dethrone Bitcoin.
Made some good bucks with DRK and XMR, but in the case of Vertcoin it seems like I came late to the party, lost like 15k $ already and I do think it maybe is even good time to exit, even with loses because generally I do think when one altcoin starts to decline - 99% of the time it's declining to death, and it's not just the case with Vertcoin, it's the case with every altcoin no matter how good it is.
Maybe, and just maybe we can count on rise of altcoins in next Bitcoin bubble which really should happen soon.
That's the cryptocurrency game in my eyes right now... Bitcoin already won, altcoins are good only if you catch them at the beginning

the decline seems scary
sr. member
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About to buy more CLOAK. I think CLOAK can reach great heights with OneMarket and PoSA. I will be selling on OneMarket  Grin


Exactly what i plan to do! :0) Buy/Sell on OneMarket with my cloak!

Likewise =)
newbie
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About to buy more CLOAK. I think CLOAK can reach great heights with OneMarket and PoSA. I will be selling on OneMarket  Grin


Exactly what i plan to do! :0) Buy/Sell on OneMarket with my cloak!
full member
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About to buy more CLOAK. I think CLOAK can reach great heights with OneMarket and PoSA. I will be selling on OneMarket  Grin
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Please give here some version PoSA, i can't wait for first public test!
sr. member
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dasource, call dev for us see if he fixed last bugs or not Tongue
dasource
I can confirm it has been Wink
TR_
boolberry would be cool to trade but theres alot of stuff about the private mining programs that turn me off
r00tback
dasource, so what u waiting now Cheesy want me to sleep to release it ?
dasource
final tests currently underway
PokeACloak
^ ^

is this where you have moved to? Nice updates from xc and cloak today...

I dont move.. I simply hang around the best.  So yes you will see me here and in XC thread for now Wink   

Glad to have you in the cloak community.. you technical expertise is much welcomed here... i know you were active in XC with testing with the dev.. Enjoy the cloak rocket
sr. member
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dasource, call dev for us see if he fixed last bugs or not Tongue
dasource
I can confirm it has been Wink
TR_
boolberry would be cool to trade but theres alot of stuff about the private mining programs that turn me off
r00tback
dasource, so what u waiting now Cheesy want me to sleep to release it ?
dasource
final tests currently underway
PokeACloak
^ ^

is this where you have moved to? Nice updates from xc and cloak today...

I dont move.. I simply hang around the best.  So yes you will see me here and in XC thread for now Wink   
legendary
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To weird to live To rare to die
dasource, call dev for us see if he fixed last bugs or not Tongue
dasource
I can confirm it has been Wink
TR_
boolberry would be cool to trade but theres alot of stuff about the private mining programs that turn me off
r00tback
dasource, so what u waiting now Cheesy want me to sleep to release it ?
dasource
final tests currently underway
PokeACloak
^ ^
what is is handwritten IRC chat logs
hero member
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dasource, call dev for us see if he fixed last bugs or not Tongue
dasource
I can confirm it has been Wink
TR_
boolberry would be cool to trade but theres alot of stuff about the private mining programs that turn me off
r00tback
dasource, so what u waiting now Cheesy want me to sleep to release it ?
dasource
final tests currently underway
PokeACloak
^ ^

is this where you have moved to? Nice updates from xc and cloak today...
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 255
dasource, call dev for us see if he fixed last bugs or not Tongue
dasource
I can confirm it has been Wink
TR_
boolberry would be cool to trade but theres alot of stuff about the private mining programs that turn me off
r00tback
dasource, so what u waiting now Cheesy want me to sleep to release it ?
dasource
final tests currently underway
PokeACloak
^ ^
newbie
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I bought more cloak today even when it was at $.65, so I'm hoping for $10 as well!!! Heck maybe with the new technology it will simply replace BTC and it will spike to $1200.  Tongue

Wouldn't that be some craziness...
sr. member
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me lol i think 100dollar is posible wen its posa real posa and onemarket

Don't be delusional.  I would be happy with a $10 price, which is what DRK hit at its (more or less stable) peak.

I think Dark hit closer to 20...

Did hit closer to 20
 BUMP
sr. member
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me lol i think 100dollar is posible wen its posa real posa and onemarket

Don't be delusional.  I would be happy with a $10 price, which is what DRK hit at its (more or less stable) peak.

I think Dark hit closer to 20...
full member
Activity: 126
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me lol i think 100dollar is posible wen its posa real posa and onemarket

Don't be delusional.  I would be happy with a $10 price, which is what DRK hit at its (more or less stable) peak.
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