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December 03, 2014, 08:04:02 PM
Yep, right on cue. There´s one of those cases  Grin
legendary
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December 03, 2014, 07:59:50 PM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
i agree with this pictures are a good thing for alot of people. Would preffer a video even if it is like 30 seconds of quick walkthrough showing miners and all that good stuff i am sure that will make people happy. Also people are always happy to see live miner stats from cloud mining and also allow people to plug in own miners like ghash.io allows people to do and still cloud mine off cex cloud shares  Cool

Not just a good thing - it should be mandatory. Even then, these forums have seen dozens of ponzi schemes and cut/run scams in the past year. One that sticks out was a guy that sold hosted miners (s1 I think) with photos of his room with 16+ units. After selling the hosted rights for most of them, be disappeared. Never came back.

Things that seem too good often are. Be cautious about paying 100% upfront for something you don't have visual proof of or control over. Just because you're getting trickle payments doesn't mean you'll still be getting them next week/month/year. It's pretty much the exact definition of a ponzi

Cloudminr has been acting very professionally, paying on time and they have great support. They have used escrow for their signature campaign and offer attractive rates and no maintenance fees which guarantees ROI.

All this is why a lot of trusted members of the forum have trust them and bought GHS with them. Everyone should study and have its own criteria to invest.

If you wait for a company to be more established and if you are more careful, you have less chance of losing your investment but the earliest investors will get the most profit.

Indeed - cloudminr.io has been acting very professionally. A newby with no credentials setting up a zero-fee-mine.... dream on. The only ones who do NOT act professionally in any way are - as you call them - the "trusted members of the forum". If cloudminr.io is a scam - and it looks like this - you can be sure that people who lost their money have all the right to go legally after other people who promote this scam. Never mind if these people are "trusted members" or escrow. So if you would act professionally, you first would ask for evidence for the mine, for the address, for the name - you didn't, so if I had invested and would only lose one cent, I would definitvely go after you.
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December 03, 2014, 07:56:30 PM
I guess this guy is going to regurgigate this same stuff

for months or years like his obsessive-compulsive colleagues

and/or sockpuppets on these threads  Grin
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
December 03, 2014, 07:41:10 PM
They are doing business right in term of everything I can control. I agree video of hardware, bills, address linked to a pool would help Wink

The option 2/ you give is reasonable, cloudminr said they will implement fees down the line. They want to grow and to grow you have to invest which is what they are doing.

again though - theres zero explanation of what fees and when. There's nothing stopping them from saying that fees are $5/TH/day, starting next week. It would make the cloudmining contract worthless within the next 2-3 months, and you would have no option but to forfeit your hashrate and accept major loss because their fees are equal to $0.30/kwh.

There is a legitimate market for cloudmining, but it can't be based solely on forum reviews and a fancy website. Proof that they own machines, are actually hashing to an address that is the source of dividend payments, photos of the equipment/location - all these would help demonstrate that this is more than an obvious ponzi scheme ("buy this, we'll give you THIS slowly over several months/years, there's zero strings attached") and that the people running this at least have hardware.

----> and, even then, there is the risk that things become unprofitable. zero fees cannot exist forever - if they start taking losses they will implement fees or dissappear with the equipment.
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December 03, 2014, 06:15:34 PM
They are doing business right in term of everything I can control. I agree video of hardware, bills, address linked to a pool would help Wink

The option 2/ you give is reasonable, cloudminr said they will implement fees down the line. They want to grow and to grow you have to invest which is what they are doing.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
December 03, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
i agree with this pictures are a good thing for alot of people. Would preffer a video even if it is like 30 seconds of quick walkthrough showing miners and all that good stuff i am sure that will make people happy. Also people are always happy to see live miner stats from cloud mining and also allow people to plug in own miners like ghash.io allows people to do and still cloud mine off cex cloud shares  Cool

Not just a good thing - it should be mandatory. Even then, these forums have seen dozens of ponzi schemes and cut/run scams in the past year. One that sticks out was a guy that sold hosted miners (s1 I think) with photos of his room with 16+ units. After selling the hosted rights for most of them, be disappeared. Never came back.

Things that seem too good often are. Be cautious about paying 100% upfront for something you don't have visual proof of or control over. Just because you're getting trickle payments doesn't mean you'll still be getting them next week/month/year. It's pretty much the exact definition of a ponzi

Cloudminr has been acting very professionally, paying on time and they have great support. They have used escrow for their signature campaign and offer attractive rates and no maintenance fees which guarantees ROI.

All this is why a lot of trusted members of the forum have trust them and bought GHS with them. Everyone should study and have its own criteria to invest.

If you wait for a company to be more established and if you are more careful, you have less chance of losing your investment but the earliest investors will get the most profit.

I have no idea what about the above statement makes cloudminer.io any less likely to be a ponzi scheme. There are only two realistic scenarios:

1) these guys are taking massive losses in the first year because they do not charge any fees. 1BTC invested and at least 90% of that cost goes directly into the cost of hardware. There will have about a 1.1BTC payout in the first year, and these guys will take a $200+ loss because there are no fees. The next year the investor would get 0.4BTC (approx) and these guys are still down another $200+. They would be bleeding money. That leads to the second scenario

2) maintenance costs will be implemented suddenly and unexpectedly. There is no money being made if they actually run hardware with no costs to cover power expenses. They will undoubtedly implement fees sooner than later. will that be $50/TH/month or $200/TH/month? Its not even hinted at. When these fees are implemented - your only options will be to pay them or surrender your hashrate to them.

OPTION 3) Give me $100 today, and I'll give you $1 every day for 110 days. Thats a 10% return in just over 3 months!
20 people sign up in the first day - I have $2000 on hand. I pay out regularly, $1/person/day for several weeks. after 100 days I have paid out all the dollars, but now have 50 more people signed up because the first guys are reporting that they got full payment back. Thats $5000 in my pocket, enough to continue the charade for another 2 months and pay back the second group on 50 people over 90% of what tey invested - and it seems like this is totally legit, so more people sign up.  Soon I have $50,000 in my pocket, but will have to pay out over $80,000 in debt over the next 100 days. I delete my website and disappear.
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December 03, 2014, 03:56:14 PM
Hello,

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legendary
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December 03, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
i agree with this pictures are a good thing for alot of people. Would preffer a video even if it is like 30 seconds of quick walkthrough showing miners and all that good stuff i am sure that will make people happy. Also people are always happy to see live miner stats from cloud mining and also allow people to plug in own miners like ghash.io allows people to do and still cloud mine off cex cloud shares  Cool

Not just a good thing - it should be mandatory. Even then, these forums have seen dozens of ponzi schemes and cut/run scams in the past year. One that sticks out was a guy that sold hosted miners (s1 I think) with photos of his room with 16+ units. After selling the hosted rights for most of them, be disappeared. Never came back.

Things that seem too good often are. Be cautious about paying 100% upfront for something you don't have visual proof of or control over. Just because you're getting trickle payments doesn't mean you'll still be getting them next week/month/year. It's pretty much the exact definition of a ponzi

Cloudminr has been acting very professionally, paying on time and they have great support. They have used escrow for their signature campaign and offer attractive rates and no maintenance fees which guarantees ROI.

All this is why a lot of trusted members of the forum have trust them and bought GHS with them. Everyone should study and have its own criteria to invest.

If you wait for a company to be more established and if you are more careful, you have less chance of losing your investment but the earliest investors will get the most profit.

Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
i agree with this pictures are a good thing for alot of people. Would preffer a video even if it is like 30 seconds of quick walkthrough showing miners and all that good stuff i am sure that will make people happy. Also people are always happy to see live miner stats from cloud mining and also allow people to plug in own miners like ghash.io allows people to do and still cloud mine off cex cloud shares  Cool

Not just a good thing - it should be mandatory. Even then, these forums have seen dozens of ponzi schemes and cut/run scams in the past year. One that sticks out was a guy that sold hosted miners (s1 I think) with photos of his room with 16+ units. After selling the hosted rights for most of them, be disappeared. Never came back.

Things that seem too good often are. Be cautious about paying 100% upfront for something you don't have visual proof of or control over. Just because you're getting trickle payments doesn't mean you'll still be getting them next week/month/year. It's pretty much the exact definition of a ponzi

Cloudminr has been acting very professionally, paying on time and they have great support. They have used escrow for their signature campaign and offer attractive rates and no maintenance fees which guarantees ROI.

All this is why a lot of trusted members of the forum have trust them and bought GHS with them. Everyone should study and have its own criteria to invest.

If you wait for a company to be more established and if you are more careful, you have less chance of losing your investment but the earliest investors will get the most profit.

Says the guy with the CLOUDMINR.IO signature.

Where is the proof of actual hardware?  Maybe a signed address showing funds from a pool?  Or how about trusted forum member visit of their facility.  'Adrian' has avoided these questions or has given vague answers.
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December 03, 2014, 11:53:18 AM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
i agree with this pictures are a good thing for alot of people. Would preffer a video even if it is like 30 seconds of quick walkthrough showing miners and all that good stuff i am sure that will make people happy. Also people are always happy to see live miner stats from cloud mining and also allow people to plug in own miners like ghash.io allows people to do and still cloud mine off cex cloud shares  Cool

Not just a good thing - it should be mandatory. Even then, these forums have seen dozens of ponzi schemes and cut/run scams in the past year. One that sticks out was a guy that sold hosted miners (s1 I think) with photos of his room with 16+ units. After selling the hosted rights for most of them, be disappeared. Never came back.

Things that seem too good often are. Be cautious about paying 100% upfront for something you don't have visual proof of or control over. Just because you're getting trickle payments doesn't mean you'll still be getting them next week/month/year. It's pretty much the exact definition of a ponzi

Cloudminr has been acting very professionally, paying on time and they have great support. They have used escrow for their signature campaign and offer attractive rates and no maintenance fees which guarantees ROI.

All this is why a lot of trusted members of the forum have trust them and bought GHS with them. Everyone should study and have its own criteria to invest.

If you wait for a company to be more established and if you are more careful, you have less chance of losing your investment but the earliest investors will get the most profit.
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December 03, 2014, 09:53:04 AM
Want a VIP-Code to buy some Ghs. Wink
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legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
December 03, 2014, 09:36:46 AM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
i agree with this pictures are a good thing for alot of people. Would preffer a video even if it is like 30 seconds of quick walkthrough showing miners and all that good stuff i am sure that will make people happy. Also people are always happy to see live miner stats from cloud mining and also allow people to plug in own miners like ghash.io allows people to do and still cloud mine off cex cloud shares  Cool

Not just a good thing - it should be mandatory. Even then, these forums have seen dozens of ponzi schemes and cut/run scams in the past year. One that sticks out was a guy that sold hosted miners (s1 I think) with photos of his room with 16+ units. After selling the hosted rights for most of them, be disappeared. Never came back.

Things that seem too good often are. Be cautious about paying 100% upfront for something you don't have visual proof of or control over. Just because you're getting trickle payments doesn't mean you'll still be getting them next week/month/year. It's pretty much the exact definition of a ponzi
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December 03, 2014, 06:01:39 AM
....me too....!

Want a VIP-Code to buy some Ghs.

After losing at lunamine, now losing here.... Grin
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December 03, 2014, 12:22:15 AM
any chance to get a vip code? or is that over..
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December 02, 2014, 11:12:58 PM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
i agree with this pictures are a good thing for alot of people. Would preffer a video even if it is like 30 seconds of quick walkthrough showing miners and all that good stuff i am sure that will make people happy. Also people are always happy to see live miner stats from cloud mining and also allow people to plug in own miners like ghash.io allows people to do and still cloud mine off cex cloud shares  Cool
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GreenCoin
December 02, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.

I think it would be great to have the pictures. I definitely understand the amount spent to promote the site
and its a great strategy. i invested a small amount in the beginning, and is have already got around 20-25% return.
hero member
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Merit: 500
December 02, 2014, 06:38:39 PM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.

I think they said pictures of the mine should arrive.

They could have a really good deal on hardware and they may be ready to invest some money in the beginning to become bigger; when they got big enough they will ask for some maintenance fees at least for new contracts.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
December 02, 2014, 06:14:51 PM
Are there any pictures of the mine?

I find it hard to understand how this isn't an obvious ponzi scheme.

Hashrate is 1.1btc/th (-9% to vip users with referals), and even the most conservative estimates (5c/kwh, 0.5w/gh, zero overhead) indicates that there are at least $180/year in costs. A more realistic estimate (0.7w/gh, 7c/kwh, minimal overhead) put costs at over $365/year.

Unless fees are implemented out of the blue to recoup these costs, this makes no sense.
newbie
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December 02, 2014, 04:31:27 PM
VIP codes for everyone who asked have been sent.

not me  Sad

login: Zeus  Wink
newbie
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December 02, 2014, 02:55:54 PM
Hey there, is the Promotion for 10gh/s still Running? Furthermore I am also interested in the VIP Voucher.

Username on your Plattform is also qqlarsqq.

Great Site so far.
hero member
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December 02, 2014, 11:40:50 AM
Did you guys get paid the correct amount this week? Have you been getting paid the correct amount in previous weeks? It turns out PBmining has been underpaying it's customers for a while and nobody even noticed.

Cloudminr give correct payments.

Example : 16-11-2014   50 GH/s    0.00724518 BTC

Thanks for the VIP code.
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